Got mine as stock set on a roadbike and ended up using them as trainers. Have put +3000mi on them (maybe 5k?) in 4 years and never had a problem. I'm pretty harsh on wheels and these have taken a beating, but are as true as the first day, or close enough for trainers. They are heavy-ish and changing a tube on the side of the road can be a pain, but not too bad.