what is the role of fat?
I usually only worry about trans fats. Dr. Oz on Oprah pointed out that the human body can't break it down properly and it pretty much just goos up our arteries...not so good.
As far as other fats I don't think that is too much to worry about with animal fats as long as you aren't just devouring red meat all the time.
Lately for me I've been sticking to high fiber high protein low fat.
I usually don't worry about saturated fats that much but still watch the labels so I'm not just devouring ridiculous amounts of it. I feel a lot better day to day and seem to have a lot more endurance (perhaps that is just coming with increased training though, who knows.)
Any doctors/experts out there?
Fat is not a bad thing. it is important for insulation (both thermal and imapct), energy, hormone production, and many other purposes, but many of us get too much of it.
As far as fueling, even the leanest athlete has enough fat stored to far outlast his/her limited carbohydrate storage and we can make fat out of any of the other macromolecules that contain energy (carbohydrate, protein, and alcohol).
At light intensity an athlete burns a relatively even mixture of carbohydrate and fat. At high intensity, we burn almost 100% carbohydrate. We need to replace the carbohydrates by eating more of them after workouts, but we don't need to worry about replacing the fat.
Overconsumption of saturated fats is till a risk factor for active people. Our risk of heart issues is dramtically reduced because of our exercise, but not to zero.
The amount of fat required for health is very, very low. Uness you are on a very extreme low fat diet, this should not be a concern.
Ken
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I agree with a lot of what Ken Mierke said above here. Dietary fats are crucial for all beings, and especially endurance athletes. I unfortunately often see athletes on self-imposed very low fat diets who are often injured, sick, or if female-unable to menstruate. Saturated and trans fats do not serve any good purpose in our diets, however and should be avoided even by healthy active folks like us . Even if you are very active and not gaining weight these fats can accumulate in your arteries over time and lead to heart disease/atherosclerosis. Therefore, we should all aim for mostly unsaturated fats or “good fats” such as those from fish, avocado, nuts, olives and olive oil.
As for how much we need, that can be calculated several ways, and also depends on several factors including your current training phase and any body weight/body fat goals you may (or may not) have. As an endurance athlete, you will usually need 0.8-1.0 grams of total fat per kg of body weight per day (1 kg = 2.2#). During your race phase of your season you will want to take in higher total fat per day (but still not from trans or saturated fat). Now go eat your salad with avocado, nuts and fish-plus add some whole grains-and feel good about taking great care of yourself inside and out!
Lauren Antonucci RD, CSSD
Registered Dietitian Certified as a Specialist in Sports Dietetics
Member of the GSSI sports nutrition network
I agree with a lot of what Ken Mierke said above here. Dietary fats are crucial for all beings, and especially endurance athletes. I unfortunately often see athletes on self-imposed very low fat diets who are often injured, sick, or if female-unable to menstruate. Saturated and trans fats do not serve any good purpose in our diets, however and should be avoided even by healthy active folks like us . Even if you are very active and not gaining weight these fats can accumulate in your arteries over time and lead to heart disease/atherosclerosis. Therefore, we should all aim for mostly unsaturated fats or “good fats” such as those from fish, avocado, nuts, olives and olive oil.
As for how much we need, that can be calculated several ways, and also depends on several factors including your current training phase and any body weight/body fat goals you may (or may not) have. As an endurance athlete, you will usually need 0.8-1.0 grams of total fat per kg of body weight per day (1 kg = 2.2#). During your race phase of your season you will want to take in higher total fat per day (but still not from trans or saturated fat). Now go eat your salad with avocado, nuts and fish-plus add some whole grains-and feel good about taking great care of yourself inside and out! :)
Lauren Antonucci RD, CSSD
Registered Dietitian Certified as a Specialist in Sports Dietetics
Member of the GSSI sports nutrition network
You mentioned high intensity vice low intensity for fat burning. What role does fat intake play in a typical tri (say Oly and above)? I ask because certain replacement beverages (for example Perpetium) seem to have a higher level of fats in them than others.
-Ray
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I believe that the fats in Perpetuem and Sustained Energy come from the Soy Protein that they have in them. I know they use Soy Isolates (which is great because it removes sugars, and prevents gas)... but Soy does also have some fat in it, so that's probably what you are seeing.
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I can tell you from experience, that having enough "stored energy" as I like to call it...can be a life saver in a race or long training day, or when you're having gut problems. I typically don't (can't, don't want to...) eat anything after mile 13 of the IM marathon or half-way through my recent 50K run. I have enough fat to supply energy, feel great and not bonk. And I can also attest that being "healthy" rather than too lean fights off illness and injury....I'm very rarely sick.
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There must be something to that. Why is your immune system stronger when you have more body fat? Is it an energy issue where the immune system requires more energy?
This year's Kona race showed some top athletes succumbing and dropping out due to illness - Faris, Norman, Michelie. How much of that was because they pushed so hard while being too lean? At what point is being lean too lean? When does the loss/absence of body fat take you to an unacceptable level of risk of debilitating illness? I've read that top body builders also drop body fat like crazy to show off their muscles and that as a result, these strong men and women are the weakest and most fragile people because they can't fight off disease.
I can tell you from experience, that having enough "stored energy" as I like to call it...can be a life saver in a race or long training day, or when you're having gut problems. I typically don't (can't, don't want to...) eat anything after mile 13 of the IM marathon or half-way through my recent 50K run. I have enough fat to supply energy, feel great and not bonk. And I can also attest that being "healthy" rather than too lean fights off illness and injury....I'm very rarely sick.
Quoting from Hammer Nutrition:
A small portion of fat seems to cue your body to more liberally release its fatty acids stores, which account for up to 70% of one's energy requirements in long bouts of exercise. A little fat in the fuel also slightly slows the rate of digestion and thus promotes "caloric satisfaction," another attractive plus during primarily aerobic ultra-long distance events. Perpetuem provides maximal benefits at an aerobic pace (under 70% MHR).
Read the whole article here:
http://www.e-caps.com/za/ECP?PAGE=ARTICLE&CAT=VEGGIE&ARTICLE.ID=1252
You mentioned high intensity vice low intensity for fat burning. What role does fat intake play in a typical tri (say Oly and above)? I ask because certain replacement beverages (for example Perpetium) seem to have a higher level of fats in them than others.
In an Olympic distance race, the ampount of fat you burn as fuel will be just slightly greater than zero. Use a drink that has water, sugar, and salt, but no fat or protein. Foods that are satiating are great for meals, but you don't want a full stomach when racing at high intensity. Protein or fat in the stomach will draw blood there, leaving less to deliver oxygen and sugar to the working muscles.
At half-rironman distance, fat is a moderately significant energy source, but don't consume fat during the event. Even the leanest athlete has plenty of fat stored to swim, bike, and run all day long. Fat in the stomach causes blood to be shunted there and delays digestion and absorption of water and sugar.
At ironman distance, some protein can be helpful, but even then keep it minimal. Even for ultra events, consuming fat is unecessary.
Ken
Ken Mierke Ken@Fitness-Concepts.com
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I'm a layman but I've been doing some reading on the role of fat in endurance sport and it seems like we burn quite a bit of it when we're engaging in activity. Now even very lean people have plenty of fat reserves to get fat energy from so my question is - if I make sure to not exceed my caloric needs per day, how much of those calories can/should I use in the form of fat? It seems to me like fat is not such a bad thing and that we focus mostly on carb intake as athletes but maybe there's something about fats that is good (for instance, fish oils rich in Omega3 is good.. but what about ordinary animal fat) ?
Also, is the consumption of saturated fat still unhealthy if you are leading an active lifestyle where you monitor caloric intake pretty carefully? I can understand that excess fat will lead to accumulated fat in the body and in the blood vessels, but what if you're burning as much as you take in?