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kylie posted 1 year ago.
For me it depends on a number of factors: the focus of the workout, the distance of the workout, the rest of the terrain, etc.
In an IM I spin up hills -- nice and easy, and rarely stand. In some short workouts or sprints I'll stand and power over them, sometimes giving all I've got and my HR rising, but keeping more speed going. If it is the only hill in a workout, I often attack it because it's fun :) If I was to ever do hill repeats at higher intensity, then I'd have to climb at higher intensity.
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Anton posted 1 year ago.
Consistant is good...In training I power up hills but standing and cranking is a huge expendature of energy...better to stay in the seat and twiddle up the hills in races.
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Stringcheese posted 1 year ago.
Attack the hill in training. In fact, you should turn around coast down and attack it two or three more times :-) That's what training is for.
During races, it's probably best to maintain a smooth, consistant effort.
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Iron Dan posted 1 year ago.
In my opinion it is better to ride at a constant effort than to power up a hill. It is better to go up a hill slowly and save the energy for the remaining miles than to expend extreme amounts of energy over a one mile climb (for example) and be burned out for the remainder of the race, or at least the next few miles while you try to let your body recover.
If you are focusing a training ride on improving you climbing ability and are do hill repeats, then I would say to stand up and give it maximum effort to get the most benefit out of training. Doing this will create muscle strength, just like weightlifting when you do fewer reps with more weight. However, these types of efforts require a lot of energy and will leave you wiped out.
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UFTriGator posted 1 year ago.
I do short-course pretty exclusively, so I can't really comment on IM stuff, but this is what I've found in the types of races I do: you need to be able to hang with the people around you all the time (or gap people behind you, or close down people in front...whatever) in order to keep up with the pack (not a drafting pack, obviously, but a pack still). To do that, I need to go anaerobic on the hills or I'll get dropped (I weigh a lot...not a good climber:D). I train so that my legs can recover from that pretty quickly even while I'm sitting close to LT on the flats. If you work hard enough at that stuff in training you should be able to bounce above LT a few times in a race and not blow your legs out for the flats and the run. In races, I definitely feel pretty toasted at the top of the hills. Actually, I almost lost my breakfast at the top of the first hill in my last race. :D
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RV posted 1 year ago.
Constant effort - Seated - maintain cadence - Use gearing to accommodate that.
If short course - I will attack hills - but long course stay steady.
Use momentum to flow into the hill.
Don't let up as you crest the hill. Keep the cadence up and pedal down the backside.
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Nutty posted 1 year ago.
The X Runner;81349 wrote:
When you are cycling, is it better to stay at a constant effort - even when its up a major hill? because when I do that my overall pace significantly drops. Or is is better to get your butt off the seat and give it your all?
In terms of running its a debate most people charge the hill and let momentum take them down - but Mark Wetmore (the famous College coach of Adam Goucher of Boulder Colorado the book "Running with the Buffoloes" was about his team) he says you should get passed on the up and zoom down the hill. Or you even have Jack Daniels who says you should stay at a constant effort.
Thats odd, jack daniels always seems to tell me to not run, play some pool, buy a pack of smokes and have another drink. He's a way more productive coach to you...
My old CC coach (a marathoner)was into the push it up the hill and ease off on the decent idea. I tend to attack hills both directions on the bike. I push hard to the top and follow it over the crest and keep hard till i hit flatland. Im sure thats not at all the right way to do things, just how i do it for now.
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UFTriGator posted 1 year ago.
Nutty;81364 wrote:
Im sure thats not at all the right way to do things, just how i do it for now.
For sprints it is. Olys, too.
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blavelle posted 1 year ago.
"climbing" is such a broad term, I usually base my attack of the hill by the opening incline. If its a short steep hill Ill build a constant momentum, stand up, and power over it but if it's a longer climb I sit down pick a nice steady cadence and pace myself up it.
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max ping posted 1 year ago.
unless the downhill is relatively flat then it is more productive to get into an aerodynamic position and save your legs.
i used to hammer both sides then i started to experiment while riding with others and found that even though people are cranking away in front of me that a good aero position allows me to ride right up on their wheel. then when it goes flat all that saved energy...
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The X Runner posted 1 year ago.
Nutty;81364 wrote:
Thats odd, jack daniels always seems to tell me to not run....
Im not sure if ur joking or not....
Jack daniels is also the name of a world famous runing coach. He coached greats such as Ryan Hall and Alan Cullpeper
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Nutty posted 1 year ago.
Haha yeah don't worry, i knew who you were actually talking about. I'm just in a bit of an odd mood today(every day), and couldnt resist the joke. Thanks for making sure i was informed though.
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The X Runner posted 1 year ago.
Nutty;81377 wrote:
Haha yeah don't worry, i knew who you were actually talking about. I'm just in a bit of an odd mood today(every day), and couldnt resist the joke. Thanks for making sure i was informed though.-Alan
Haha I get some of those days too:p
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The X Runner posted 1 year ago.
Arite this is gonna sound like a stupid question (I am just starting to get the hang of this biking thing) but wats an "IM"
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cayman posted 1 year ago.
The X Runner;81380 wrote:
Arite this is gonna sound like a stupid question (I am just starting to get the hang of this biking thing) but wats an "IM"
IM for short
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Tribro posted 1 year ago.
some training power up. like when you're working on speed and aerobic. i gte out of the saddle on try to get my heart rate up and pretend i'm contidor or someone ;)
some training take it slow and constant to work on strength and keeping heart rate down. I do repeats 8 minutes turning low gear at 55-60 rpm. this is more for the long distance training. you want to be able to maintain a consistent effort for long triathlons.
for long cycling it's completely different cause of pelotons and attacks. but they don't have to get off and run 13-26 miles ;(
When you are cycling, is it better to stay at a constant effort - even when its up a major hill? because when I do that my overall pace significantly drops. Or is is better to get your butt off the seat and give it your all?
In terms of running its a debate most people charge the hill and let momentum take them down - but Mark Wetmore (the famous College coach of Adam Goucher of Boulder Colorado the book "Running with the Buffoloes" was about his team) he says you should get passed on the up and zoom down the hill. Or you even have Jack Daniels who says you should stay at a constant effort.