heart rate monitors
I do love my Garmin. I have the forerunner 301 (GPS and HRM, the 305 is the newer one. You can get them for under $200 on amazon right now I think.
Sometimes I'm really bad about keeping a log, so I love my Garmin 305. If I forget to record my workouts for a week, I can upload the data to my PC and see everything that I did. No complaints about any of the features that I use during training either.
I have had my Garmin 301 for several years - Great stuff!
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Thanks for the input everyone! I've been looking at the Garmin 205 and 305 and it seems like the only difference between them is that one has a bike cadence monitor possibly? Does this really come in handy instead of having one on the bike?
Also, when looking at them, they seem pretty big? Am I correct in noticing that? I'm not a little thing so I wouldn' think this would effect me that much, but I've just never seen one in person.
To quote my buddy the BlueAssed Biker: "Don't think about it, just do it." - PrinceofClydes
The Garmin 305 has heart rate monitor, the 205 does not.
They are a bit big -- it took some getting used to with the 301 (which is more rectangular than the 305) but now I don't really notice it.
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I wouldn't pay almost $200 for an ebay one right now -- on amazon they are $213 for a new one and then you know you have a legit Garmin dealer.
Yes, my Garmim 305 is much larger than any watch or HRM I've ever had, but I don't really notice it. It doesn't feel like I'm strapping a brick to my wrist or anything.
i have an old nike triax hrm. it became the triax c10 which got discontinued for some reason. if you can find one on ebay, snap it up...it's a good watch! no gps, though. what i really like about it is the 5 interval timer, which i've used for swim, bike, and run training.
unfortunately the plastic strap on mine is going now (i've had it now 4 yrs) and i'm going to have to find something new soon.
Adam
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I had the Triax Elite also, but I lost the watch and chest HRM/band. It certainly was nice, but of course didn't have the GPS accuracy or ability to tell distance on a bike from a footpod.
I paid about $200 for my Garmin 305 and it was well worth it. It has worked wonders for my running. Although I am such a weak runner I had no place to go but up. It helped me pace myself out better so I wouldn't get so tired at the start of the run. It used to be that 90% of my training would be done in the gym due to not being able to track my performance. The 305 made it easy to turn that around to 90% outdoor and 10% in the gym.
ok, I know y'all love the Garmins BUT you cannot swim with it and I know my girlfirends who have them hesitate to even run in the rain with them---just something to consider. I like my Polar because I can do all 3 sports in it with out having to swich to another watch and can wear it through an entire race. Just a thought.
I tend to swim without a watch, personally.
As for running in the rain with a Garmin, I do it all the time (well, as all the time as I can in CA ;)) For heavier rain i put some seran wrap or a baggie over it, but in general I don't worry -- the warranty for it says it should be ok, and the customer service has been good (for non-water issues).
Just more info as you figure it out :) My boyfriend has always used a Polar, but this year I had an extra Garmin and now he has claimed it instead.
I tend to swim without a watch, personally.As for running in the rain with a Garmin, I do it all the time (well, as all the time as I can in CA ;)) For heavier rain i put some seran wrap or a baggie over it, but in general I don't worry -- the warranty for it says it should be ok, and the customer service has been good (for non-water issues).
Just more info as you figure it out :) My boyfriend has always used a Polar, but this year I had an extra Garmin and now he has claimed it instead.
but what do you do for a race for example? you cant swim with it so how do you keep a running time? Just curious is all. Perhaps I am just OCD about that. I COULD have both, but just opt not to.
Well, you all convinced me!
Last year I bought the cheapest HRM money can buy (at least that I saw). The Omron HR-100C for $30. It actually works well, it just has very limited features. All it does is display the current heart rate- no graphs, not even an average! Now I realize the benefits of buying a more expensive HRM that can actually be used to improve our training instead of just looking at your instantaneous hear rate :rolleyes:
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but what do you do for a race for example? you cant swim with it so how do you keep a running time? Just curious is all. Perhaps I am just OCD about that. I COULD have both, but just opt not to.
I have a cheapo watch I sometime wear for the swim, or I just don't know that part of my time. Sometimes it bugs me (and it took a while to get to where I just don't wear a watch for that) but I prefer to bike watchless, so having the Garmin set up on my bike beforehand makes that easier.
And it was fun at the end of my last IM to hear Mike tell me I PR'ed the swim since I had no idea :)
I love my Polar..
Got the RS200SD which comes with a foot pod to track distance when running, and I can do all 3 sports with it no problems. No need to change watches and great support from them so far!
Thank you for everyone's feedback so far, I really do appreciate it! I'm debating between the Garmin 305 and the Polar RS200SD. I didn't realize that the Garmin wasn't waterproof so that's kind of a concern for me. Also, it seems like the only negative feedback that I'm hearing about the Polar is that the shoe pod can sometimes be tricky to calibrate.
To quote my buddy the BlueAssed Biker: "Don't think about it, just do it." - PrinceofClydes
At first glance it seems like the main difference between the Garmin and Polar is if you want something for the swim or bike. I know you can mount the Polar on a bike for HR tracking, but it doesn't appear to track speed and cadence like the Garmin can.
I'm Tellin ya, Don't buy the polar! Buy the Garmin! It used to piss me off that I couldn't swim with it but then I realized, who cares! My head is under water so I can't hear the alarms and I am not going to stop in the middle of a swim and check my stats.
brand aside, i use the alarms on my watch for swim training in the pool...i hear them just fine. you can race against a countdown timer and see your progress over time by how far you are down the pool when the alarm goes off. set it to repeat for racing against our average 100 yd split times during longer sets
Adam
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How confortabler is the Garmin 305 or 301? Isn't it too heavy? How does it feel when you run with it?
I don't really understand the point of HRM training for swim workouts. I suppose it would be a nice addition once in a while, but increasing efficiency during swimming should be a much bigger concern than increasing fitness. And where fitness is concerned perceived exertion and lap splits seem like they do a perfect job of gaging your workout.
I suppose it would be useful on long open water swims, where much like distance running you don't have an idea of how fast or far you are going except by perceived exertion.
How confortabler is the Garmin 305 or 301? Isn't it too heavy? How does it feel when you run with it?
I did my first run with the 305 today. It is certainly much bigger and heavier than an ordinary watch, but not uncomfortably so. It fits the wrist much better than the 301 and seemed to work very well. Though I haven't been able to use it thoroughly I am very impressed with all the features and I think it will make a great training tool.
I can't wait to program the autostop feature. I always used to forget to stop my watch once in a while on long runs, or if you forget to start it again you lose any semblance of meaning in the elapsed time. With autostop, just set the Garmin to pause while going slower than 10 min/mile perhaps. Then as you approach a stop light it stops and restarts automatically. Even better, it keeps track of the time it was on pause and counts it as rest time which you can view later (as opposed to just forgetting about it on a normal run).
i have the garmin 305 and have used it heavily for the past year of training. I spoke to a garmin tech person about swimming/using the garmin. Unofficially, he said that people do use it in the pool. They put it in their swim caps and put on the strap (which is water proof).
I have never done this fearing that it would damage the device. I guess for some the benefit is to track declining avg and peak heart rates for specific workouts that you do over and over. For me, there are times that I think I'm giving it my all on a bike workout but seeing a lower than expected HR tells me that maybe I have more to give - I guess the same kind of analysis could be made w/doing 100's or 200's on short rests and seeing lower than expected avg hr's.
"Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go."
-T. S. Eliot
Just configured my 305 to all my preferred options (user profile, autostop, custom display screens etc). Then I uploaded my first workout, and I manually mapped the route using runstoppable.com as I normally do. I got the same distance within 1/100th of a foot, but with the Garmin I will never again have to scroll around a map clicking hundreds of times! Add in the HR data, and I am definitely sold on this product. :)
I love my 305.....aaaaahhhhhh......
I was thinking about a nano ipod with the running device, but I don't want to have to buy nike shoes only. It is decided, the garmin 305 is definitely on my christmas list then :)
Does the GPS work everywhere? Let's say I travel to europe...?
I have had both the Polar 625X (the precursor to the 200SD I believe) and now have a Garmin 305, and frankly I prefer the Garmin. I'll do some pro's and con's
Polar 625X
Pros:
Foot pod works indoors
Watch is full waterproof, no problems wearing it with HRM in the pool
Smaller watch
Power meter available at a reasonable price for the bike (accuracy is very questionable though)
Long battery life
Cons:
Does not measure bike speed without buying addons
If you have long arms, and a long stroke, the watch actually goes out of range of the HRM while swimming, so that wasn't much use to me.
Elevation function is not very good
More parts (got to move the footpod between shoes, and hope it doesn't come off while running like mine did)
Less accurate than the Garmin, and needs calibration
Garmin 305
Pros:
GPS data is cool and accurate (except under bridges and forests can give it a few headaches)
Essentially replaces my bike computer (cadence add-on is fairly cheap as well)
Excellent elevation data
If you get lost, it tells you how to get home (useful on bike rides in new areas)
Cons:
Doesn't work indoors (I hate treadmills, so no big deal)
Short battery life (only about 10hrs before you need to charge it again)
Can't be used on the swim (although it is waterproof and can be easily used in the rain)
Bigger watch (though the 305 is much better than the 301)
Takes a minute to locate satellites, so you need to stand around like a fool for 60s.
As I said, I prefer my Garmin. I find the data more useful for logging, as I can compare certain events (ie high heartrate) with the maps of where I was running, and better elevation profiles to help me better understand what was going on. I didn't have the new Polar though, so if anything I have said has been changed, then let me know.
Does the GPS work everywhere? Let's say I travel to europe...?
Yes, it does
Cons:
Doesn't work indoors (I hate treadmills, so no big deal)
Short battery life (only about 10hrs before you need to charge it again)
Can't be used on the swim (although it is waterproof and can be easily used in the rain)
Bigger watch (though the 305 is much better than the 301)
Takes a minute to locate satellites, so you need to stand around like a fool for 60s..
According to the website, you can also purchase the foot pod so you can use it indoor. They should create a shell for the swim part.
I was thinking about a nano ipod with the running device, but I don't want to have to buy nike shoes only. It is decided, the garmin 305 is definitely on my christmas list then :)
I have the nike + and you do not need the shoes. You can buy a "pocket" for it at any mac store or online:
http://www.macstore.com/product/Sportsuit_Relay_for_iPod_nano_2G/a-drb-7624-ryno.html
you can also just buy the pocket for the sensor.
TryScott- My Polar has a cadence sensor/spedo on it so I can wear it on the bike..no need for a second computer. Its easy enough to look down and see during training or in a race.
Sully800- I personally check my HR while doing a long swim occasionally just to verify that I am not going out too hard/fast. I also do check it occasionally during a race for the same reason. That and it would drive me crazy to not be able to keep a running time in a race for all 3 events.
Its all a matter of preference. I live where it rains 9 months out of the year (speaking of which , its dumping as I write) so I would be leary of using the Garmin.
I live where it rains only about 6 months out of the year (as a matter of fact its raining right now) and I use it in the rain all the time.
Thanks, I didn't know you could put the sensor in a pouch instead of nike shoes.






I currently use as timex but have been wanting to get a new one, this one is about 2 years old and has done me good thus far. I'm not an extreme athlete but need one to do the basics and have even thought about one with the GPS monitor on it to help me track my runs. What would you recommend for someone to doens't need all of the bells and whistles but a good decent one that will last a while and help with training for olympic and possibly even half-marathon/ironman training.
To quote my buddy the BlueAssed Biker: "Don't think about it, just do it." - PrinceofClydes