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started by blavelle on September 26, 2007

After my first tri I've been hitting the training hard! I've noticed I've got some "room for improvement" in the gut area but its been my main focus and I've been eating as healthy as possible. My question is would you diet pros recomend me a good suppliment to help me with this process? I dont want to take an apetite suppresent because I need the energy and I dont want to take a protein because I dont want to gain. suggestions?

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bluebirdbiker posted 40 weeks ago.

read this book by Monique Ryan. It's ALL there. To explain things based on what you have requested would take too long.

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jbird2131 posted 40 weeks ago.

after a long ride/run/swim, or an intense brick, and after every weight lifting session i take a scoop (20-30 grams) of whey protein in skim milk or water. it helps repair damaged muscles and also helps build lean muscle. the next morning you wont be quite as tender either, and you can train that much harder and burn even more calories. i dont have much experience with other supps. hope this helped at least a little.

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wirebook posted 40 weeks ago.

That is indeed a good book - sitting about 2 feet from me at the moment.

But at the end of the day it's all pretty much about calories. If you intake more than you expend (both through normal activity and training) - you will weigh more. Nothing can be done about that.

However, one of the greatest ways to help shed pounds is to start tracking what your eating. Even if you only do it for a week. Many folks are surprised at how much all of the 'little' stuff adds up - even stuff you probably don't realize you ate. For example, here's my exact 'consumption' for today in order to consumption:

1) PPJ Sandwich (Breakfast)
2) Banana (mid-morning)
3) Huge (way too big) bowl of Pasta/Sauce (lunch)
4) Granola bar (mid-afternoon)
5) Banana (late afternoon)
6) Ribs, Mashed Potatoes, Mac/Cheese (Dinner)

Now, if you were to casually ask me what I ate - I'd say PPJ for Breakfast, Pasta for Lunch, Ribs for dinner - but all of the stuff in between adds up. Also don't forget drinks can add up - especially stuff like soda and juice. Nothing at all wrong with Juice, just remember it's calories.

Or, you could take the 'official' tri approach - just train more. ;)

Btw, I dropped 50 pounds over the past year, simply by training more - not eating less (actually, I'm eating more than ever now). I have to mentally eat more, otherwise my weight will drop through the floor because of the training load.

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KenMierke posted 40 weeks ago.

Eating less is definitely not the answer. Fat cells cannot be starved - muscle cells can (fat cells are not metbolically active; muscle cells are). Strategies derived from the "Calories in - Calories out" paradigm offer acute solutions to a chronic issue and do not work.

You need to eat in a way that feeds your muscle cells, but not your fat cells and exercise in ways that
1. burn fat and 2. Raise your resting metabolic rate.

Eat concentrated carbohydrates (bread, cereal, pasta, rice corn, potatoes, sugar) only after workouts, when they will go into your muscle cells as glycogen for tomorrow's workout. At other times these foods are very likely to end up in your fat cells.

Do most of your aerobic training at a very easy intensiy - almost every athlete I've tested (over 7,000) goes too hard for basic endurance training. Training slightly too hard your body to burn more sugar and less fat.

Strength training has tremendous acute and chronic benefits. Human Growth Hormone is released after a short, intense strength training session and dramatically increases fat metabolism for a few hours. Muscle growth increases resting metabolic rate chronically.

More at LeanForaLifetime.com

Hope this helps, Ken

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kylie posted 40 weeks ago.

Thanks Ken. That is very helpful and clear.

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deepbluex posted 40 weeks ago.

I lost about 30 pounds in my first year of training for tris. My strategy was 3-fold:
1. burn calories - inevitable through the daily training to reach and maintain fitness level.
2. eat smarter - get rid of "garbage" calories. Cut out sodas, simple sugars, fatty fried foods, processed foods, bleached white flour and white rice and favor whole grains, whole wheat, and brown rice. Eat leaner meats.
3. eat less - I just simply put less food on my plate. I ate enough to not feel hungry but not so much that I felt stuffed. I ate slowly and to the point where I reached a "comfortable" point where I could eat more but stopped. After a while, you become accustomed to smaller portions.

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Cholopolitan posted 40 weeks ago.

I find that mixing in some mountain biking as "cross training" really gets the intensity up...

+1 on the riding before breakfast. I hit a banana and coffee before doing a 2 hour ride.

Also,
Low glycemic foods like beans and oatmeal... They keep you full.

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wllmsylv posted 37 weeks ago.

Ya know there are so many different opinions on this subject and yet none of these answers may be for you. What has always worked for me is a balanced died, and lots of intence cardio. Now ken sounds really smart and all, and not that it is bad advice, but when ever I have tried to over strategize my died nothing really happens for me. But Deepbluex and I have a similar strategy. For me the key is to just listen to my stomach and eat what is needed to fill that gap. And I try not to do it with junk. As far as exercise goes for me last week I did 25 miles of running 100 miles of cycling and squeezed in weights in there somewhere and I am continuing to try and increase that. I also believe like Cholopolitan that cross training is very crucial. If you notice I think everybody has given some really good information now you just have to try it all (including reading the books) and see what works best for you and build your own fitness and diet strategy. Good luck, I hope I did more then just confuse you.