Kona Qualifying- The Dark Side...
....and it was BARELY worth it.
I can identify. Looking back on my season, I think I sacrificed too much. It wasn't worth it - not the way I did it. Too many other things got shoved aside. I'll do it differently next year.
Thanks for sharing, and good luck in Kona - and good luck becoming the "old Bryan" again.
Great post!!!!
I am often asked by people why I don't compete in an Ironman and your post explains exactly why. If you truly want to race at the Ironman level the sacrifice it requires is almost beyond explanation, especially to people that do not understand the sport and I am not willing to make that sacrifice. Now if you just wanted to cross the finish line and time was not an issue then I think you could find a balance between training and real life but for true competitors there is NO balance, it is ALL training and everything else comes second.
I wish you the best at Kona and hope you reach or exceed ALL of your goals but most importantly I hope and pray that you are able to find that balance in your life between training and family because family is more important than anything else. From your post I can tell that you understand the importance of family and want it to be your top priority but you also hear the siren call of triathlon and she can be a very difficult mistress to shake!!!
Stay strong!!!

Great post and insights. This is why Ironman will be a once every five years experience for me right now (my kids are young, and I'm not willing to give up that much of their lives and experiences for that distance in this sport). I admire your commitment, not just to training and the sport but to instrospection and change. We will all be holding our breath as you take the plunge at Kailua Bay. I hope the day brings everything you hope and have trained for, and that you can take a much-deserved step back when it is all over.
Blue Skies, -Robin-
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We have all met those folks for whom Ironman is the be all and end all...they are quite one demensional. You never struck me that way Bryan. Your understanding of the impact of this on your life is what makes you who you are..Bryan, who happens to be doing Ironman..not an Ironman who happens to be named Bryan.
Good on you,lad and best of luck at Kona.
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We have all met those folks for whom Ironman is the be all and end all...they are quite one demensional. You never struck me that way Bryan. Your understanding of the impact of this on your life is what makes you who you are..Bryan, who happens to be doing Ironman..not an Ironman who happens to be named Bryan.
Good on you,lad and best of luck at Kona.
Thank you all for your support, it means a GREAT deal to me.
Anton, you really raised an excellent point. There were many times when I was allowing what I do, triathlon, to define me as opposed to who I am. When we do things in our lives and have immediate success, we become drawn to the power of that image, an image propigated by those around us who, through their praise, feed the Id. That's the path of the Dark Side and to walk down it, forever will it rule your destiny.
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Bryan
Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
That is a particularily relevent post for me. As I am in the final stages of prep for IM FLA I am already assessing what my next step will be to reach the goal of a spot for Kona. (If I don't make it this year which is likely)
I have made sacrifices to get to the point I am now, but I feel that I have done a decent job of minimizing the impact on those around me. (I couldn't imagine doing this with kids though!)
However, I have started to wonder myself if the effort that is going to be required to get me to Kona is worth it or not.
It is something I want to do, but how badly? I'm still working on that one. It will become a more important question once I cross the finish line in florida. For now, that is all there is. I have labelled the next few months as pre-Ironman and post-Ironman. That is how I respond to requests for me to do something. If it is pre. it is unlikely. If it is post, I am making up for all I have missed, and allways say yes. (this makes me feel better anyways!)
syd
We choose, and each choice builds/makes us who we are.
I can certainly relate to two IMs in a year. I did IMAZ and IMC this year with a family of 2 kids and wife. I know what you are talking about when it comes to commitment, time management and dedication. It's all about choices and sacrifice.
All the best Bryan for a great race. You earned it. .....God speed.
BBB
There are no excuses - so don't look for them. As a product of your own choices, you directly determine your life outcomes.
Don't think, just do.
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I can only imagine what you mean.
I was following a 1/2 Im training plan this year and even though I finished on August 18th I go a bad surprise last week.
One of my closest friends was moving to Holland and some friends were throwing him a big goodbye party. And do you know what? I never knew they were doing this. When i called him to say goodbye he asked me why I didn´t go to the party and i told him the organizers never invited me. He got a bit pissed and asked them why if we are all close friends they didn´t tell me. And their answer was that they didn´t believe I would go because I had missed every other party during the year beacuse of my training.
Now that was sad!!!! I realized I had created a distance with my friends because of the sport.
You have made huge sacrifices Bryan and believe me you will have a well deserved rest after Kona is over.
I think racing in Kona is almost every triathletes dream and I admire you for qualifying. I truly believe you are taking many trifueleres dreams and best wishes to the big island. And I know Tikal Dog´s spirit is going to be there cheering for you and giving you extra strength during that day as will every other trifueler. (for mike and Kylie I will be cheering also).
Your sacrifice is going to pay off you´ll see. (or if it doesn´t...... at least it will be all over soon jajaja :D)
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Ya, choices and balance.
My first year doing IM I was pretty wrapped up in it and was more rigid with training - didn't miss any sessions - sometimes to the exclusion of family things - not good.
This past year I was more relaxed - more flexible. I did miss some workouts - and I moved a lot of workouts around to better accommodate other more important things.
This year while training for IM - We moved, I built a stable - put in a corral for the horses - changed jobs - and on and on.
Through all of that I did not miss any of the kids events, x-country, track, tennis etc. Did all the family things. Good stuff.
And my training was better than before - I even PR'd by 65 minutes at IMWI.
Originally my wife agreed to every other year for an IM - after this year she said that if I train like I did this past year (meaning being flexible and keeping family as the priority) then she's all good with me doing an IM every year. :D
It is all workable. Choices and balance...
RV
It takes a long time to get good. - Scott Molina
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss
Definitely choices and balances.
And very well written, "Bryan who happens to be doing Ironman" :) (I like that differentiation Anton).
Perhaps I'll get to meet you (and maybe even your mom and get a family history pic for you :)) in Kona! I'll be out there cheering all day, so I need all the faces to watch for by name that I can get.
What a well written and introspective post. It makes me realized that my Ironman ruminations (I'm thinking of IM FL /08) are spot on in that I will train enough to finish on time but that's about it. That's a whole other effort than the one you are making and it's the right one for me.
Whatever you have sacrificed will be made up over time. You are young enough for that. It's sort of like a 28 year old making a big gamble with his 401K money and having the market go south. That experience isn't without pain but at that point in life you have plenty of time to recover. That's true with you, too. You've sort of robbed your wife of time (although I'm guessing she is your best cheerleader) and your job but you will make up for that when this is over.
For now, you have every right to enjoy this time of total commitment to something you really, really want. Your real challenge will be to balance your life after Kona and to resist the urge to continue to train at this level so that you can get faster and faster. I'm sure you'll work out whatever makes sense in the context of your life.
Best of luck.
- A 21st Century Mom who is tri-ing to get better instead of just getting older
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Bryan, you do not know nor will ever know how many lives you touch with your sacrifice and discipline. You will probably never know how what you are doing will be leveraged for good.
In my view, we live in an age of indulgence and lack of committment and sacrifice. I believe we as triathletes, at any level can serve as role models for the possiblity of an alternative lifestyle.
This will soon be over for you and all those on this forum and all those you touch in your daily life can and do stand in admiration and awe at your committment and dedication. You have defined yourself to others somewhat through all this. And the traits exhibited and ehnanced through this quest are the same ones that make a great employee; a wonderful caring, committed husband and a human being of character. I would guess those who love you know that.
This world desperately needs yet seems so in short supply of heroes; those who venture to sacrifice.
I made a file of your Kona reports; I read your posts...Wow! Thanks hero.
marvin
You've gained insight, and I think that's one reason some people do endurance sports. You've clearly learned about yourself and the people you love...is that "the dark side" or the road to self-actualization?
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Bryan,
Your post almost sounds like a confession of someone who needed to get that off their chest to justify/get it out in the open just how much your training 'cost' in terms other than the actual hours put in.
I couldn't agree more with you on everything you said. When I first got into tri's last June it was simply to get into shape and lose weight. Then the competitive swimmer in me came out and I wanted to 'race' again and was having a blast. I signed up for IMWI without a clue as to just how much time it takes to be able to finish an IM let alone race one.
The shortcoming I had over the last year is/was due to my choice to put family/kids over IM training. I can't imagine being as dedicated as you with 4 kids, a dog and owning 2 businesses. Even once I decided to not try to 'race' IMWI and just go out and finish and have fun I know there were difficult times where I did long rides and runs over family time and such. It's hard to head out the door with a 2 year old saying no daddy, don't go!. And too often after a 6-7 hr ride or 2-3 hr run I too would sit at the dinner table zoned out in la la land or have to do nothing for an hour or two to recover. Then there are the diet restrictions, sleep (yeah right with kids) and other non training things.
In the end I am 100% glad with the balance I was able to achieve between family and training. I sacrificed a lot of family time but I also blew off a lot of workouts to do the 'right' thing. (Try telling an 8 month pregnant wife that you are going for a 6hr ride and 1hr run and see how that goes over!).
But also there is an upside. I am healthier. My 2 year old loves bike rides in the trailer. My 10 year old stepson that went to IMWI with me came back and the next day went for his own 5 mile ride/2 mile run brick as he announced he was now in training. In short, I am working on building a triathlon family/team to rule the races!
I have decided, now that the boss is no longer pregnant and with her consent to try to up the training for next years IMWI. It probably won't be near as committed as you but I am going to try to find more speed and still keep the family happy. It will be interesting to see how it goes, but I'm sure I'm in for early morning runs and late nights on the trainer in the basement!
Kudos to you for your dedication and commitment, and the best of luck in Kona, you've earned it!
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Hey, hey, hey! Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater here because we got confused about the game we're playing.
Firstly, congratulations Bryan on getting to the Show. Go, have fun in Kona. Bring back happy memories.
To everybody else, - less to Bryan who has been there now and seen the difference - there are TWO completely DIFFERENT things here. Let me spell them out:
ONE - doing an Ironman distance race - relatively a piece of cake, - you can do it on 7 hours a week for 10-13 weeks.
TWO - racing in Kona - relatively impossible for most of the 6Billion people on this planet. Winning it isn't even a discussion we can have here. The program (time commitment) and the amount of work needed to GET TO KONA is unfathomable to 99% of even trifuelers who DO KNOW what triathlon training involves.
Another way to put this is: anybody can learn to swim, enjoy swimming as a liesure activity and never miss out on a family event or a party or walking the dog, but if you want to play it at the ELITE Level ie. go to the Olympics, which is what Kona is equivalent to at IM level - there is no life outside your training
If you want to compete with the world's best, at Kona or at Beijing, next year, you do not have a life outside your sport training. Swimmers train 4 hours a day and recover the rest of the time. Olympic boxers, train, eat, sleep - that's it. And so it is with ALL Olympic athletes and so it is with anyone who gets to KONA, like Bryan,
BUT just doing an Ironman , even doing it pretty well, doesn't need to take up your entire life. Just ask me.
Once again, congratulations Bryan, and best of luck in Hawaii. May Pélé smile on you.
PoC
"Pain doesn't last, chicks dig scars, glory is forever!"
- Shane Falco.

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Originally my wife agreed to every other year for an IM - after this year she said that if I train like I did this past year (meaning being flexible and keeping family as the priority) then she's all good with me doing an IM every year. :D
It is all workable. Choices and balance...
I feel you here. I had very good intentions on really getting after it in my training. I had already let my wife know that I was going to be away training a lot, but after it was over, I would be back to normal. Then, child #4 came,the training slowed, and the next thing you know it's Aug.26, and time for IMKY. Now my wife thinks all I have to do is "train like you did last time for this Ironman thing." My inconsistency may have jinxed me!
Bryan, I'm sure your wife understands how important this is to you and your mother will no doubt be proud as will all of us here. Good luck, and remember, you already met your goal(making it to KONA),so go out and enjoy it.
P.S. Diamonds are a girls best friend!
-Johnie
Wow, I am touched and deeply gratefull to all of you. It means more than you know to me. I'd like to respond to a few specifc comments.
BBB- I know you too have felt my pain ;)
Tikal Dog: with that kind of positive mojo, I can't go wrong!
RV- Preach it brother!
Kylie- I would love to meet you and your partner, we need to exchange contact info.
TriOnLife- Funny analogy as I am an Investment Advisor!
mdittfurth- Hearing something like that just moved all my experience up a notch. If what I have gone through has helped others, I can't ask for anything more.
Star- Your absolutley right, without seeing the Dark we can never appreciate the Light.
kkocan- Indeed, it is a confession and not a justification either. I don't want absolution, I must pay my pennance and move and be better. My other motivation to share this was I was concerened that too many of my posts are training and IM related and might give the wrong impression that all was wonderful and look how fast I am! I wanted to have a record of the opposite of the thrill of victory, not the agony of defeat but the consequences of victory.
PoC- Yeah, trying to race in IM with a Kona time is a step up in training volume and the costs increase as well. Again, I wanted there to be a vetting of both sides of this quest for me.
JohnieTri- She is proud of me, my Mom is just about to burst! If I have given my mother a gift, that means very much...my wife will just need more tangible gifts as you correctly point out!! ;)
Again, I am honored to have you all as my virtual triathlon fellow athletes. I will think of you all often..... while I'm running in the ENERGY LAB!
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Bryan
Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
Good luck Bryan, I will be racing on Oct 13th as well here in South Carolina. I figure about the time I am finishing you should be doing some last minute race preps in Kona. I plan on taking some profound wisdom from you into my race - "Suck it up Buttercup."
I will say a quick prayer for you at my finish.
Brad
Pain is the sensation of weakness leaving the body!
TWO - racing in Kona - relatively impossible for most of the 6Billion people on this planet. Winning it isn't even a discussion we can have here. The program (time commitment) and the amount of work needed to GET TO KONA is unfathomable to 99% of even trifuelers who DO KNOW what triathlon training involves.Another way to put this is: anybody can learn to swim, enjoy swimming as a liesure activity and never miss out on a family event or a party or walking the dog, but if you want to play it at the ELITE Level ie. go to the Olympics, which is what Kona is equivalent to at IM level - there is no life outside your training
Have to disagree with you here PoC. Kona you can qualify in your age group,Olympics you qualify against everyone. It's a totally different ball game. Going to the Olympics is more like going to Kona to compete with the Elites. Not to downplay the commitment required by any means, but I've known several people who have been to Kona, some multiple times, and none of them have had "no life outside your training.". Most of them have had kids, work, and balance in their lives. It's a tough road for sure, and requires dedication and commitment, but it does not require a complete overturning of your life to this one goal.
Blue Skies, -Robin-
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Yeah, I have to agree with Ironmom on this one. But add in that for those people I know that Kona qualify and have a life, there is a good amount of pure talent there as well.
It's certainly not the same as getting to the Olympics (there are only three spots and you're trying to qualify against a much large field. And it happens 1/4 as often so you have 1/4 of the chances). But perhaps its equivalent to making the Olympic qualifier. No point in debating too much on that topic since Kona is its own event and qualifying doesn't need to be "equal" to any other achievement.
Oh definitely... I think accomplishments are best measured in the whole picture of the person reaching them anyways :) I was mainly agreeing that qualifying for Kona won't necessarily completely knockout all non-tri life.
Oh, please don't get me wrong, I completely agree that many people race Ironman and even qualify for Kona without destroying their lives. I didn't destroy mine, but I can see how it can be done! This is all just my musing on my journey, which I think may have been somewhate unique. I went from my first triathlon to racing in Kona in 17 months as a 38 year old age grouper. I'm sure it's been done before, but not too often. I never understood all the cosequences I would be forced to deal with and I think my coach looked at this as an incredible experiment into how far could someone with no experince be pushed into the forefront of the sport.
I also agree that an Olympic team member is the pinnacle of sports.
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Bryan
Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
Yeah, that makes sense. It's definitely a fine line, even just training to a PR (although I suspect it's probably similar effort for a PR and a Kona slot comparing my abilities to those of Kona qualifiers :))
It's always interesting to read about the approaches others take to the sport, and how it affects how they see the world.
For someone who aspires to do an Ironman one day, these posts are inspiring and thought-provoking. Bryan, don't beat yourself up too badly over what you have given up. For those of us who simply cannot rest until we accomplish certain things in our life, those around us who love us understand this and know that we would be miserable wondering "what if" for the rest of our lives. Not to mention that the process of preparing and completing these events makes us even better people in the long run. Take care and best of luck!!!
Bryan--thanks for sharing this.
I hope you and your family are able to bask in the Aloha spirit while in Kona and that you have a joyous race. You have been given a gift, that while requiring hard work and dedication, is still a gift--to have qualified is truly special.
Bryan--thanks for sharing this.I hope you and your family are able to bask in the Aloha spirit while in Kona and that you have a joyous race. You have been given a gift, that while requiring hard work and dedication, is still a gift--to have qualified is truly special.
Thank you. i think i am ready to really enjoy this now. :)
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Bryan
Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
Bryan,
You are right on on this one. I am guilty of neglecting my family and wife for my Kona races these past few years. It's a terrible addiction
I have chosen to take a step back next year. It is just too much time away from the family especially when I often work greater than 50 hr weeks.
Triathlon is a selfish sport which can become consuming if you let it. I guess that is why I get in this sport for 3 or 4 years at a time and quit.
I am signed up for Epic Camp NZ this winter and after that I'm cutting back.......I sound like a smoker or alcoholic Ha.. Ha
So where are you going to be in Kona next week? I will be at the Kona Reef. I would like to meet you.
as a 38 year old age grouper. I'm sure it's been done before, but not too often. I never understood all the cosequences I would be forced to deal with .
I thought you were younger - but you're still young! It is kind of funny that I picked the 401K analogy - it was definitely inadvertent.
Chris Lieto is a local in this area so he makes the papers for the 'lifestyle' section and such. Even he was saying that his wife gets annoyed with all of the hours he spends training and that's all he does! So yeah - the family just has to endure, so to speak.
I'm sure it will all be worth it. I also think of your Mom who must be so very proud of you and honored by your efforts. Your Mom is a huge inspiration and a tribute to the value of struggle. You qualifying for Kona at your first IM is a tribute to your Mom. So it all works out, right?
- A 21st Century Mom who is tri-ing to get better instead of just getting older
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Hey Sandman -- are you racing it this year? I'll be there cheering (my boyfriend is racing)... Bryan and I were thinking of meeting up around the welcome dinner (I won't be attending it I don't think, but I will be around).
Bryan, Nice post. Congrats on making it to the big show.
Congrats to everyone else that is going too
Nothing to it, but to do it
I can't imagine being able to do an IM let alone making it to Kona at the moment..
I get picked on by friends as it is for 'neglecting being young' and going to bed a 8.30 every night so I can be up at 5 to train!
Apparently that's not what a 23yo should be doing..
Hey Sandman -- are you racing it this year? I'll be there cheering (my boyfriend is racing)... Bryan and I were thinking of meeting up around the welcome dinner (I won't be attending it I don't think, but I will be around).
Yeah, I'm racing #658 45-49. So send me some of that Trifuel karma on race day. I have a feeling we are in for a rough one this year; )
I just exchanged cell # with Byran. Lava Java is a great place to meet up some time race week. We arriving on the 6th. Bryan says he is getting in on the 10th. We could plan on the 11th some time. The big rest day...
.......I sound like a smoker or alcoholic Ha.. Ha
If we took this thread and replaced the word "training" with something like drinking, doing drugs, binge eating, going to bars, etc... then I could see a real problem. Obviously we can't ignore loved ones for a training addiction, but remember that there are worse things to be addicted to.
Last week my wife told me that she wishes I took as much interest in carpentry and home projects as I did in working out. To be perfectly honest, I was a little upset at the comment, but I didn't let her know. First of all, there's nothing that says a woman can't hang drywall. Second, I bet I could take Ty Pennington in a 10k.
Last week my wife told me that she wishes I took as much interest in carpentry and home projects as I did in working out. To be perfectly honest, I was a little upset at the comment, but I didn't let her know. First of all, there's nothing that says a woman can't hang drywall. Second, I bet I could take Ty Pennington in a 10k.
I would have been upset by her comment too - maybe she could have expressed it differently, but you can't fault her for saying something if she really feels like excessive training is taking you away from her. Perhaps her complaint is legitimate?
Like someone else said, this sport CAN turn into a very selfish pursuit if we allow it...
Wow, I better reconsider my IM training lol....
On a more serious note: I feel you pain Brian....way more then you can imagine...
*sigh*
..First of all, there's nothing that says a woman can't hang drywall. Second, I bet I could take Ty Pennington in a 10k.
Yeah, I'm sure you could, but could you handle his ADD, OCD, commentary while you raced?
How about a 10k race while carrying a sheet of drywall?
PoC
"Pain doesn't last, chicks dig scars, glory is forever!"
- Shane Falco.

















As the race approaches, I though it would be good to touch upon the other side of "What it Takes", or "What it Takes Away". Certainly you can substitute training for Ironman, or even just triathlon training in general as a lot of this still applies, but all I know is my own experience in the quest for Kona. I have touched upon it in other threads, but lest anyone think I am an age group pollyanna so self absorbed in his own accomplishments to not see the truth, I think this is important to hear. I've discussed all the physical, mental, financial, aspects which I think are needed for this journey, I have not discussed what I've had to give up, or worse, neglect. It's often said that Ironman is selfish, I would suggest trying to qualify for Kona can be even more so.
Anyone who has ever trained for Ironman knows that it's, at it's root, simply a HUGE time commitment. The physical difficulties and everything else are secondary to that. It's TIME which we all try and fight to find. In trying to qualify for Kona, perhaps it is even more so. I made a commitment of time which had some very real cost and consequences. Trips with my family had to be potponed. "Sorry, honey, can't go away this week, it's my big bike week!" It got to the point I could actually say that with a straight face and believe it. Sleeping in on a Saturday morning and laying in bed with the wife and dogs became a thing of the past, a distant memory. I was in bed by 7:00pm every night from the crushing fatigue.
It's not just the time wih your family you sacrifice, it's the "quality" time. Sitting there at the dinner table isn't enough, it's being able to make a connection with someone you love. What's ironic is that from a time standpoint, that could be accomplished in a matter of moments, moments where that other person truley feels they have your undivided attention and you are being attentive to them. And yet that simple act and those simple moments can just slip away when your focus is overwhelming your better judgement and your sense of right and wrong. I felt like a mouse on the wheel, can't stop, can't slow down, can't break my concentration. Now, this isn't goign to be the case for everyone, I know that. Type A's with more than a touch of OCD, it's a worse for us. We are the ultimate sadomasochist, sadits to tothers that stand in our way, masochists towards ourselves.....but we train like animals!
In order to accomodate everything in my life, I failed miserabley. My home life suffered as did my work. Fortunately, I was able to minimize that impact, but there were many a day when my clients would call and I would be gone, trying to get in that 3 hour ride before my wife got home. Looking back now, I feel that the quest for Kona was a powerful distraction from my work and only now do I realize how many opportunities I missed.
Crossing the finish line at IMAZ with my qualifying time was an incredible moment. But not too long after did I begin to realize what I had given up to do it.....and it was BARELY worth it. Maybe it's because going to Hawaii wasn't ever some life long ambition of mine even though my mother had been such a great competetor there. I decided to try and go on not much more than a whim last year. But once committed down that path...well, for me J.R.R. Tolkein summed it up best:
One ring to rule them all
One ring to find them
One ring to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them
I have spent the past few weeks looking back on all of this. I have apoligized to my wife frequently, but more important, I have worked to become the man she married again in her eyes. I have a new and energized focus at work. I just have to say that I am not throwing myself a pity party as I think about all of you out there with children as well and I am in awe of your ability to make that work. I have 2 dogs and somehow even managed to neglect them! In less than 2 1/2 weeks, I wil be in Kailua Bay for the start of the 2007 Ironman World Championships. I feel physicaly ready( just read my posts I'll tell you all about it! and mentaly strong with a far better outlook on me and my relationship with this sport. I will cherish that day, especially to be able to share it with my mother. I know that the next time I feel the urge to visit the Big Island in October, whenever that may be, I will not make the mistakes of the past.......I'm very sure I'll make new ones.
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Bryan
Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!