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geochuck posted 1 year ago.
A picture is worth a thousand words http://www.goswim.tv/drill_pop.php?id=2232_0_20_0_M
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Tikal Dog posted 1 year ago.
I really appreciate your post geochuck!! great site.
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UFTriGator posted 1 year ago.
My best guess without seeing it would be that your arms are coming out to the side instead of straight over your head. It'll cause you to sink down to the bottom during the turn and it's VERY common when people are just starting (or re-starting) flip turns.
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geochuck posted 1 year ago.
I would also make sure those knees tuck in tight.
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Star posted 1 year ago.
Funny, after IMA I started practicing the flip turn because I have the time to do more fun stuff :rolleyes: and I've been doing pretty well with it. Until yesterday...I must have been really tired, because every flip was funky, off-kilter, sideways or got water up my nose! I just laughed...and I imagine the people in the club house did too!
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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.
My two best flip turn tips: do a little dolphin kick to help pop your feet over, that makes more of a crisp "flip" and keeps your momentum up. Also, humming while you turn keeps water from going up your nose.
Edited to add: you can see the swimmer doing the little dolphin kick in that cool video that GeoChuck posted.
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geochuck posted 1 year ago.
For the really bad swimmers here is a site from the Special Olympics some of their tips could be useful for some. After seeing this site I sent a donation. http://www.specialolympics.org/Special+Olympics+Public+Website/English/Coach/Coaching_Guides/Aquatics/Teaching+Aquatics+Skills/Teaching+Freestyle+Turns.htm
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UFTriGator posted 1 year ago.
geochuck;80102 wrote:
For the really bad swimmers here is a site from the Special Olympics
HAHAHAHA!!! :D I know that it's still early, but it's definitely the funniest thing I've heard today!
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RV posted 1 year ago.
Quote:
Originally Posted by geochuck
For the really bad swimmers here is a site from the Special Olympics
UFTriGator;80107 wrote:
HAHAHAHA!!! :D I know that it's still early, but it's definitely the funniest thing I've heard today!
Great another site with swimmers faster than me!
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geochuck posted 1 year ago.
Really guys it was not meant as a joke. I have been involved with special needs children and young adults. Yes we can learn from this site. If you watch and see their faults you may even correct your own.
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RV posted 1 year ago.
geochuck;80132 wrote:
Really guys it was not meant as a joke. I have been involved with special needs children and young adults. Yes we can learn from this site. If you watch and see their faults you may even correct your own.
Hey Geo - no disrespect intended - I've worked with Special Olympics a couple times in the past.
The funny part was just your mention of 'really bad swimmers' - With your help I'm trying to not be one of those. :)
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geochuck posted 1 year ago.
I understand RV. I should have been more gentle in my approach to the topic.
I worked for 30 years in the special needs field and enjoyed every minute.
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wirebook posted 1 year ago.
Thanks for the video. I tried doing flip turns a few weeks ago for the first time. I did about 30 laps of them (at both ends). Within hours I felt sick, and even stayed sick for two days. I don't know if it was all of the water up my nose (likely more than the pool filter), or what - but it wasn't good.
That said, I've set aside time on Friday to tackle them again. At some point I've got to get good/functional with them. Although - I can say I've got an incredibly efficient wall bounce thing ;)
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grlawguy posted 1 year ago.
Here's a question regarding swimming and flip turns:
I have become pretty good at doing non-stop distances (1000-1800 yds) with a fairly efficient, quick "open" turn. When I add in flip turns though, I can usually only do about 200 yards with flip turns at both ends and then I am winded. Any thoughts as to why this is so or what I can do to avoid the windedness? Is it just a question of building endurance?
When doing the turns, I do exhale to avoid water up the nose, but it is not like I am exhaling all air in my lungs so that when I come up and take my first breath I am gasping or anything.
I practice doing flip turns just about every work out, but I rely on the fact that since I can't do them in a tri, flip turns are not as important as speed and endurance (rationalization, I know).
Thanks in advance for the input!
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tri-ac posted 1 year ago.
So, i tried the knee tuck and keeping the arms in. BIG improvement in getting everything feeling more fluid! I still have to THINK about each turn (enough that it throws lap counting off! :) ), but that will improve with time. The dolphin kick tip, sorry Ironmom, I haven't done that since I was 12 either...i'll need a lesson for that (maybe I'll work on that deeper into winter when the flip turn stops tiring me enough to notice it). But the concept of getting a little extra inertia pushing into the flip makes sense. When I sprinted to the wall, the flip turn was a lot easier than when I was tooling along at more moderate paces.
THANKS, ALL!
(I have also noticed that the flip turn has shaved seconds off each lap; that's good for the ego even if it doesn't change my OW pacing :D )
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geochuck posted 1 year ago.
It takes conditioning to be able to a flip every turn. Introduce it slowley.
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houseofdixon posted 1 year ago.
geochuck;80132 wrote:
Really guys it was not meant as a joke. I have been involved with special needs children and young adults. Yes we can learn from this site. If you watch and see their faults you may even correct your own.
I've pretty much ruled out kick-turns for now, I see no need as there are no walls to turn on in a lake...maybe I'm just showing my true rookie colors...
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I just started to include flip turns in my swimming. I haven't done them since I was twelve, so I'm a little rusty. I'm finding my hips are dropping me to the bottom of the pool when I fold over (it's pretty shallow, 4 ft) , and I end up pushing off the bottom as much as the wall. I watch others, and it seems so slow and easy; but I feel like I'm doing some jerky twisty thing.
Any tips for smoothing out flip turns?
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