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Caffeine cravings after long workouts?

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started by Star on September 3, 2007

I've been having this craving for caffeine after long workouts (2+) hours...nothing sounds better than a tall coffee or chai tea. I'm wondering why, because I do not drink caffeinated coffee, tea or sodas. Caffeine makes me feel jttery and wired...not good. The only caffeine intake I have is via chocolate :rolleyes: Any thoughts?

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UFTriGator posted 1 year ago.

I take caffeinated gels all the time and think it's great. Some people don't like it, but endurance athletes have been using caffeine for a very long time. Generally (for me, anyway) I think that cravings are a way of your body telling you what it needs. If you ever have cravings for Mickey D's, maybe that's not true for you, but caffeinated gels might still be worth a try. Caffeine acts differently during exercise, so the worst that could happen is that you don't like it and you're out a couple bucks for a couple gels.

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kylie posted 1 year ago.

Maybe it's less the caffeine and more the "something wet and not at all flavored like water or sports drink"? I often any beverage that isn't like those I train with after the long workouts. Perhaps you even went by a Starbucks and that smell just got stuck somewhere in your brain :)

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theShiba posted 1 year ago.

That's so strange... A lot of people that I run with love to get coffee after running. I just think it's the most disgusting thing in the whole world. Nothing sounds less appealing than hot (or cold) coffee... after I drink coffee I usually have that dry disgusting taste in my mouth... heck... I usually already have that feeling in my mouth after running, so I want something a bit salty, or sweet.

The only craving I have consistently after long runs is Diet Coke.... something about the carbonation, I think. I don't really think it's the caffeine, but maybe... :)

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oztrigal posted 1 year ago.

I like chocolate milk after a long workout!
Not only does it have everything you need for recovery in it, it tastes great! It's similar to coffee? Maybe try that?

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Star posted 1 year ago.

Hmmm...interesting thoughts. I know what you mean about cravings...on occasion I'll crave something like Chick-fil-A after a workout (protein? fat?... who knows). But why would my body need caffeiene? Is there some nutritional value to it that I'm not aware of?

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kylie posted 1 year ago.

Dunno... but like I mentioned my "cravings" are often mental... something that smelled good at a hungry point of the workout, or something that I thought of during it. There was one bike ride in particular that for about 60 miles I was thinking of a cheeseburger at Wendy's... and I think I'd had one once before like 5 years previous! (and yes, we went to Wendy's after that ride)

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jess1 posted 1 year ago.

I always wondered about the caffinated gels? It seems counter intuitive to take a diuretic during endurance events, but they seem popular so there must be something im missing.

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Star posted 1 year ago.

A little research info by Dick Rafoth MD on UltRunR.com:

CAFFEINE (++)

Caffeine is a member of a group of compounds called methylxanthines found naturally in coffee beans, tea leaves, chocolate, cocoa beans, guarana, and cola (kola) nuts.

During prolonged exercise, the onset of fatigue correlates closely with the depletion of muscle glycogen stores (and is delayed if glycogen is spared). The metabolism of free fatty acids (FFA) as an alternative energy source can lead to decreased use of muscle glycogen. Caffeine can increase blood FFAs, and it is felt that this is its major method of action. In one study, caffeine produced a 50% increase in FFA at 3 to 4 hours. This effect was seen after 300 mg of caffeine (An average 6 ounce cup of brewed coffee contains 100 - 150 mg of caffeine).

There is speculation that some of its benefits may also be related to its central nervous system effect as a stimulant, and a recent study has demonstrated a direct positive effect on the muscle fiber itself with a reported 7% increase in power output over a 6 second cycle exercise task.

In one controlled study, subjects were able to perform for 90 minutes to fatigue as compared to 75 minutes in controls (a 20% increase) after the drinking the equivalent of 3 cups of coffee or 6 caffeinated colas 1 hour before, even though values for heart rate and oxygen uptake were similar in both groups. Another study, looking at performance with acute altitude change (4300 meters), demonstrated a 50% increase in performance with caffeine supplements. How this would help at lesser elevations, riding in the Rocky Mountains for example, is not clear.

A suggested dose of caffeine for the recreational rider is 5 mg per kg of body weight if you are taking a tablet or 1.2 cups of coffee per 100 pounds of body weight taken 1 hour before the ride although some riders prefer smaller doses taken periodically throughout the ride itself.

But there are potential side effects. Caffeine can cause headaches, insomnia, and nervous irritability. In addition it is a potent diuretic and can lead to dehydration. However the biggest negative is that in high concentrations it is considered a drug and is banned by the US Olympic Committee and US Cycling Federation (to exceed the US cycling Federation's legal limit for caffeine - urine concentration of 12 micrograms/ml - one would have to ingest 600 mg of caffeine and have a urine test within 2 to 3 hours).

The bottom line is that most endurance athletes consider caffeine useful if used correctly. This includes a period of abstinence for several weeks before the event as habitual use induces tolerance.

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kylie posted 1 year ago.

good find star :) I've always wondered about some of the "why" behind the to caffeinate or not to caffeinate debate.

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

I always seem to gravatate toward a cup of hot tea after a long run or ride or event...but that's in addition to a recovery meal or drink...just somthin' about a cup a' that makes my tired ol bones seem ...better
If it's really hot....ice cold Pepsi.

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tri-ac posted 1 year ago.

i like the caffeine in tea and diet sodas after long weekend workouts, but i think that's more from my weekly tea habit at work hitting me over the weekend with cravings

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theShiba posted 1 year ago.

I think that for me the cravings root more in the "comfort food" realm than anything else. I rarely drink Coke, or eat burgers so after a long workout I am telling myself, yeah! That sounds awesome! That's why you do this! You can spare the calories. I usually give-in.

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Star posted 1 year ago.

Well the article explains the use of caffeine during exercise, but not necessarily why I want it after. Anyhoo...I'm going to try it tomorrow morning for my 22 mile run. I'll let you know what happens...that's if I don't stroke out :p However, unlike the experiment, I will NOT be drinking 3 cups of coffee nor 6 sodas an hour before my run!!! Otherwise I'd look like this :eek:

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ScottHughes posted 1 year ago.

Are you craving caffeine or coffee?

I like coffee, so sometimes I crave it.

I don't really know what a caffeine craving would feel like. I purposely get caffeine when I am tired, but I don't crave it.

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Star posted 1 year ago.

I ran 23 miles yesterday and tried drinking coffee before and during the run. I think it helped keep me energized for at least the first two 7.7 mile loops. I found myself looking forward to it as we approached our "aid station." I was however, still a bit jittery after I got home...I couldn't nap :( I'll try it again, and see what happens. It did curb my craving for caffeine after the run.

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jennifergee posted 1 year ago.

ScottHughes;78837 wrote:
Are you craving caffeine or coffee?
I don't really know what a caffeine craving would feel like.

Caffeine cravings don't feel good...well the withdrawl part doesn't. For me this manifests as headaches, intense craving for 'something' etc. Ugh. That's why I have a cup in the morning asap...
it's not an addiction- it's a relationship that I'm willing to nurture. :p

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tri-RD posted 1 year ago.

My first guess would be that you are not getting in adequate total calories and or fluids during your longer workouts, leading to lower energy levels and thus your craving for caffeine afterwards. The recommendation is for you to take in at least 30-60 grams of total carbohydrates per hour during long training sessions. I am sure you have read sports drink and gel labels…you want to take in a sports drink such as Gatorade Thirst Quencher which contains the desired amount of carbohydrate (14 grams per 8oz serving) and combine that with energy gels (with just over 20 grams of carbs per packet). Try taking in 16 oz of sports drink plus one gel packet each hour and see if that helps! Be sure you stay hydrated by drinking a total of 7-10oz of fluid (from sports drink and water combined) every 15-20minutes. Finally, you can weight yourself pre and post workouts and aim to keep your weight as stable as possible from before to after your workouts (to tell you that you remained well hydrated). Good luck-and let us know how it goes. :)

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jasonm posted 1 year ago.

There is some suggestion in recent research that ingesting caffeine with glucose increases the uptake of glucose during exercise. It is only preliminary, and requires further study, but it is an interesting idea on how caffeine can help with endurance performance.

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OzTriGuy posted 1 year ago.

theShiba;78278 wrote:

The only craving I have consistently after long runs is Diet Coke.... something about the carbonation, I think. I don't really think it's the caffeine, but maybe... :)

Diet Coke!!!...Speaking of disgusting taste!

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OzTriGuy posted 1 year ago.

jess1;78524 wrote:
I always wondered about the caffinated gels? It seems counter intuitive to take a diuretic during endurance events, but they seem popular so there must be something im missing.

There is some research that suggests caffeine helps with fat utilisation, hence its use inendurance sports. Alot of the top Ironmen drink brewed coffee beofre Hawaii...Chris McCormack, and Peter Ried to name 2

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mdittfurth posted 1 year ago.

In the last miles of a marathon years ago we passed a coffee shop. The aroma was heavenly and my buddy and I could only think about a cup of coffee..it was't cold that day either.

Next marathon, my wife made some coffee and put it in a coke bottle and at about 20 miles was on the course to give it to me...Yeah, the coffee was cold...but it was strong and dark and just wonderful..finished very strong and in good spirits. There was no diuretic effect at all...I drink a pot of black coffee before every event and don't notice a problem with that at all.