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Do you use your 'nice' bike on the trainer?

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started by kb1dqh on August 22, 2007

Hi,

I was wondering if people use their nice/expensive bikes on trainers? I heard it puts a lot of stress on the bike because it's not really moving forward, plus the sweat, etc, it bad for it. Just curious what the general tri population thinks.

Thanks.

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UFTriGator posted 45 weeks ago.

Just wipe it down afterwards. You should do that after all your rides anyway (I never do, but I should :D). It'll put some extra wear on it, but nothing too bad. You will wear your tires down a lot faster, though. A lot of people downgrade tires from road tires to trainer tires so they don't burn up good ones, kind of like a sponge going from kitchen sponge to bathroom sponge.

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Tamara posted 45 weeks ago.

I do because frankly I don't have the resources for a nice bike and a training bike. During the summer I only use the trainer maybe once every three or four weeks if I've got a specific workout where I want more controlled conditions. But like TriGator said, I've got a training tire to use during the winter to save wear and tear.

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brittda posted 45 weeks ago.

I have done both. If I use my good bike then I swap out the rear wheel. For my other bike I just use it as is. I sweat when I ride outside, so don't know how much different that is from inside.

THANKFULLY only had to ride inside a few times this winter when it snowed. Rain, cold I just ride outside.

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kevinb421 posted 45 weeks ago.

I always use my tri bike on my trainer, but I bought one of those thong things that catch all my sweat to not damage the bike.

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Iron Dan posted 45 weeks ago.

I have never understood why people say it puts more stresses on a bike than riding outside. There are no potholes to hit or bumps in the road that intesify the loading on the bike. The only thing that I can imagine it doing would be adding a little extra stress to the head tube because the bike can't rock from side to side when when you really exert alot of force onto the pedals(the bike is locked in and must stay uprigts when it wants to rock). Personally I think that it is more of a myth than something that actually happens, but I could be wrong.

I have notice that there is more sweat on the bike after I ride inside than outside so I also bought one of those terrycloth bike covers, they work pretty well.

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RV posted 45 weeks ago.

I use my 'nice' bike - only alteration is using tires that I have retired from road use. And a towel or two over the bike helps keep some of the sweat off the components. Good to clean it after each session - but tough to do that all the time... Tho still need to do a regular thorough cleaning even when the bike is relegated to the basement for the winter.

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tri-ac posted 45 weeks ago.

Iron Dan;77107 wrote:
I have never understood why people say it puts more stresses on a bike than riding outside. There are no potholes to hit or bumps in the road that intesify the loading on the bike. The only thing that I can imagine it doing would be adding a little extra stress to the head tube because the bike can't rock from side to side when when you really exert alot of force onto the pedals(the bike is locked in and must stay uprigts when it wants to rock). Personally I think that it is more of a myth than something that actually happens, but I could be wrong.

the rear triangle is where the stresses are greater when riding on a trainer. on the trainer, motion in all three directions is resisted by the lockdown device at your rear hub. when the frame rocks on the road, only the loads put on it by your body stress the frame (which is only so much because you only have the leverage of your weight/position/force and the shock absorber of the inflated tire). that all being said...i doubt the stress on the trainer approaches the limits of the frame's capabilities

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MNGoldGo4 posted 45 weeks ago.

I am going to guess that the amount of stress put on your bike in a trainer is far less than the stresses put on it when riding it on the road. Especially if the quality of your roads are as cr@ppy as the one's we have in Richmond, VA. In addition, I would worry less about the sweat ruining your bike and worry more about the sweat ruining the indoor surface. In my case, I don't imagine sweat is good for hardwood floors. However, if you are still worried about your frame, you can always purchase one of those stretchy, frame "thongs" that they sell that will catch the sweat.

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kb1dqh posted 45 weeks ago.

Thanks for all the replys- quite helpful. I don't know if the stress is greater in terms of actual force put on the bike inside vs. outside, however, bikes are made to absorb things like bumps, potholes, etc, but not neccessarily tortional force resulting from the hub being lockdown to the bike can't move side to side.

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RV posted 45 weeks ago.

You can always use a set of rollers. Nothing locked down there!
I have both rollers and a trainer for those long winter months...

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theShiba posted 45 weeks ago.

Listen to you guys with your fancy bikes... I have a great solution. I don't have a good bike. :) If you don't have a good bike then you don't have to worry about getting it messed up. Just be like me and buy the best thing that $300 can get you...

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beads1985 posted 45 weeks ago.

Mechanically there might be more stress on the bike in a trainer as tri-ac said but look at the specs on the bike and I am sure they are meant to withstand more stress than locked down in a trainer as MNGoldGo4 stated.

To catch the sweat

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=6000123&subcategory=60001086&brand=&sku=1251&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20Trainer%20and%20Roller%20Accessories

To protect your floor(get a floor fan to cool you aff)

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=6000123&subcategory=60001086&brand=&sku=20491&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20Trainer%20and%20Roller%20Accessories

If you don't want to watch the tube and read instead

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=6000123&subcategory=60001086&brand=&sku=5151&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20Trainer%20and%20Roller%20Accessories

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RV posted 45 weeks ago.

I basically need buckets for sweat - so I just use a bunch of towels. One on the floor, one over the top tube and another over the areobars and then another one for me.

Reading on the bike? If you can do that then you are not working hard enough! ;)

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Breifne7 posted 43 weeks ago.

I don't know about stress on the bike - but I use an old bike because it creates stress on ME (and the walls of my house) if I have to haul my good bike up and down the basement stairs for every ride.

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Keebler71 posted 42 weeks ago.

OK..I normally lurk but feel compelled to respond to this. Haven't you guys ever actually looked *down* at your bike while on a trainer? You can visibly see it twist! I would never ride my "good" bike on my trainer - heck, I'm worried that I am destroying my "training" bike on my trainer. When you pedal you are applying a non-axis symmetric force which results to in a torque. Outside this means your bike tilts each way (about the line where the wheels touch the pavement). On a trainer the bike can't tilt laterally and this off-axis force becomes torques twisting your bike laterally as well as in yaw since the point of attachment is at the hub. The effect is more pronounced when out of the saddle but you can still see it happening even when seated.

Felt even mentions this in their faq. Either Felt bikes are weaker than the other manufacturers, or they are the only honest bike manufacturer (I'm going with the later).

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jmcglos posted 42 weeks ago.

I put my good bike on the trainer and switch out the rear tire. I also use one of those terry cloth covers for my sweat, as well as putting down an old yoga mat underneath the bike to catch all the extra sweat.

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TriFatBoy posted 42 weeks ago.

Towels, and that is a recent addition. I will need to swap out the tires, however my summer riding season isn't quite over yet, so wont be doing that until the last minute.

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tri-ac posted 42 weeks ago.

Keebler71;79402 wrote:
OK..I normally lurk but feel compelled to respond to this. Haven't you guys ever actually looked *down* at your bike while on a trainer? You can visibly see it twist! I would never ride my "good" bike on my trainer - heck, I'm worried that I am destroying my "training" bike on my trainer. When you pedal you are applying a non-axis symmetric force which results to in a torque. Outside this means your bike tilts each way (about the line where the wheels touch the pavement). On a trainer the bike can't tilt laterally and this off-axis force becomes torques twisting your bike laterally as well as in yaw since the point of attachment is at the hub. The effect is more pronounced when out of the saddle but you can still see it happening even when seated.

Felt even mentions this in their faq. Either Felt bikes are weaker than the other manufacturers, or they are the only honest bike manufacturer (I'm going with the later).

i have a Felt and i'm a pretty big guy and i have definitely noticed how much the seat post and rear triangle move under me on a trainer...I still don't believe I'm going to break the frame during an indoor workout. I suspect the FAQ on the Felt website is a legal liability issue more than an earnest engineering caution...

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Ironmom posted 42 weeks ago.

I only have one bike, and a rainy Pacific NW winter to contend with, so my bike goes on the trainer. However, my tri bike has a titanium frame, so I don't worry about breaking it at all (if I did, I think I'd have some super-human pedaling strength going for me!). Also, titanium is almost as resistant to corrosion as platinum, and withstands acids and salts very well. Plus, I don't really sweat much. Bottom line: my bike gets a lot of trainer use in the winter and I don't worry about it.

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