speed and endurance work
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PrinceofClydes posted 1 year ago.
Well, I don't know, can you?
I can't run hard after a squat session. I'd tie up and fall over.
Go to the track and do some accelerations after an upper body day maybe.
For Sprints and Olympic distance training you can lift all year, up to tapertime say, if you feel up to it. Just don't do anything really stupid, like say a shoulders w/o then try to swim across the lake?
For HIM and IM distance, weight training, I mean serious lifting should be done only during the first phase of the year, for 2-3 months, say, then do your base work for 3-4 months with little or no weight-lifting, then introduce some speedwork a month before your first race of the season.
The body can only take so much stress, so phasing it out over the year is important to stay injury free.
But, heck, if you're 20 years old and have lots of athletic talent, go ahead, prove me wrong.
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trainDaBrain posted 1 year ago.
Someone please prove PoC wrong! ;)
Yeah, speed work and weight lifting are very similar workouts. Weight lifting is essentially interval work confined to a small space. I'd take PoC's advice and schedule hard gym days different than your speed days. There's nothing to say you can't benefit from having them on the same day. It's just a matter of how adjusted your body is to these kinds of workouts. Build in recovery time and you'll be fine.
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jasonm posted 1 year ago.
Personally I generally do my strength training on the same day as my speedwork, or interval sessions. I perform the sport specific session in the morning and the strength training in the evening.
It just doesn't work for me doing the strength training first.
Remember everyone is different, there is no right or wrong way that is across the board. Only what works for you.
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OzTriGuy posted 1 year ago.
PrinceofClydes;76267 wrote:
Well, I don't know, can you?I can't run hard after a squat session. I'd tie up and fall over.
Go to the track and do some accelerations after an upper body day maybe.
For Sprints and Olympic distance training you can lift all year, up to tapertime say, if you feel up to it. Just don't do anything really stupid, like say a shoulders w/o then try to swim across the lake?
For HIM and IM distance, weight training, I mean serious lifting should be done only during the first phase of the year, for 2-3 months, say, then do your base work for 3-4 months with little or no weight-lifting, then introduce some speedwork a month before your first race of the season.
The body can only take so much stress, so phasing it out over the year is important to stay injury free.
But, heck, if you're 20 years old and have lots of athletic talent, go ahead, prove me wrong.
PoC
Wasn't Dave Scott a proponent of doing weights all year round particuarly as you head past 30? As this is considered to be a time when your body starts to lose its strength. I believe Mark Allen thinks the same and has advised Chris McCormack similarly. I did weights right up to a month out from Ironman lat year and have never felt stronger. Particularly on the second half of the marathon. I do accept having a light build, weights benefit me more in a power to weight ratio sense than a clydesdale who would be better of dropping some KG to improve their power to weight in most circumstances. Phil Maffetone (I think it was him) also suggests that the benefits of weight training are lost if not continued throughout the season.
I'm always interested to hear about speedwork for ironman triathlon...because I don't see many people sprinting the ironman:rolleyes: Ironman age groupers should concentrate on aerobic metabolism.
Could I do, say, some speed work on lifting days to help w/ sports, and then do a couple of runs a week? Or is this not recommended?