Speedplay Pedals vs. Look Pedals
Being a Clydesdale, having the larger foot bed of the Look Pedal is more comfortable for me. Also, the Looks have a higher weight rating than some of the Speedplays ;)
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I've used both...a lot. I ride Look now. The speedplays are a great platform but a small one right under the medial head of the foot. When I talk to folks who have foot pain riding long distances, they are usually riding lollypops (Speedplay.) The Speedplay also have an active cleat on the shoe as opposed to the pedal ie: Look. You have to be careful when getting off the bike that mud, pebbles,whatever get stuck in there and render the cleat useless until you stop and clean it out.
I have no problem with the clip in and with practice you'll find you don't have to look to do it...just slap and go.
My advice is to try both and see which YOU feel best about.
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I have Looks on the road and tri bike. Mostly because I think the bigger platform is more comfortable and provides a better power transfer. And it feels like a more solid connection than some of the systems with smaller contact points.
I also use Looks - the pedals sit in the perfect position to clip into - you don't have to spin the pedal around. I recently switched from a double sided SPD pedal, and I find the Look pedal much easier to clip into.
I like speedplays.. there are some other threads about this somethere... search for them.
In regards to clipping in and out...I wouldn't worry about it too much. When training, you don't really need to worry about it as you'll have plenty of time to clip-in/clip-out at any stoplight, stop sign, and etc. I have looks and after about a week I was pretty used to flipping the pedal if need be and clipping in quickly. As for during races, I don't know how you perform your transitions but I never clip my shoes in during the race (unless I accidentally un-clip them). I clip them in before the race and simply (maybe not the right word) roll my bike out of transition and hop on...getting my feet into my shoes and strapping them down. For dismounting, I just get my feet out of the shoes and pedal on top of them for the last .25 miles and then do a flying dismount. No clipping-in needed!
IMO the Speedplays are for people that have a problem clipping in and out.
Go with the Look pedals…or even better go with the Shimano SPD-SLs (very similar to Looks). They have a wide / low profile which makes for great power transfer and clearance in the corners. Besides that’s what LA rides!
Speedplays are great! Don't let anyone tell you that the platform size is too small...it seems to me that any power you transfer through the shoe to the cleat will also get transferred to the pedal. And Speedplays have the largest shoe-to-cleat platform area. Plus, many pro cyclists (e.g., Sastre, Zabriskie on Team CSC) use Speedplays, so they are race-proven pedals--not just for people who have trouble clipping in and out. They even have better clearance in the corners than Looks because the pedals are so much smaller. I used to ride Look-style (Shimano SPD-SL) pedals myself until I started having knee problems. The Speedplays solved all those. The only real downside to them from a tri perspective occurs if you run across the transition area in your cycling shoes before mounting your bike. You really don't want to run in shoes with Speedplay cleats on them...
I ride Looks, Mike rides speedplays. We've discussed it, and it turns out it just comes down to what we happened to end up with on our first bike with "real" pedals.
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I appreciate everyones input....I bought a bike which came with Shimano dura-ace pedals which look just like the Look pedals....I'll just have to see how well they work for me...
I appreciate everyones input....I bought a bike which came with Shimano dura-ace pedals which look just like the Look pedals....I'll just have to see how well they work for me...
good choice! that's what I ride and love them to death
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I love Speedplays. However, I'm more of a bike racer than a triathlete, and I'm not sure I'd pick them specifically for triathlon.
The biggest advantage of Speedplays is that it is virtually impossible to pull out of them in a sprint. This is significant in Crit racing not so much for triathlon.
The other Speedplay advantages, low weight, double sided entry, steep cornering angle, are also more significant advantges in bike racing (particularly crits) as oppossed to triathlons.
The Speedplay disadvantges, difficult to walk on, and difficult to engage if they get muddy, on the other hand can both be problems in triathlons.
If you have any knee problems then Speedplays are the way to go. I have one funky knee that turns out somewhat. Speedplays are the only pedals that don't give me knee pain.
at AG Nationals, there was an uphill exit from T1 and a LOT of athletes had trouble getting into one-sided pedals...all the flying mounts were really crawling/meandering mounts...and these were all very experienced triathletes.
while the race should probably have had a flat mount area and the racers probably should have practiced or mounted more conventionally, either way, there was an obvious difference in clicking in to two sided pedals
If you have any knee problems then Speedplays are the way to go. I have one funky knee that turns out somewhat. Speedplays are the only pedals that don't give me knee pain.
I have bad knees and love my Look pedals.
I think this is pretty much a Coke vs Pepsi thing.
Both pedals are good. We each have our preferences and whichever one that you are accustomed to is the one you'll stick with. :)
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The only thing I have found that I dont like about my speedplays for triathlon is what happened at a race this year. What I found is that I think they unclip TOO easily.
As I rode up to the dismount with my feet out of my shoes and swung a leg over to dismount and run into T2, my shoe that i was still standing on twisted enough to unclip and cause me to nearly fall on my face. So i had to turn around and go back and get my shoe and do the run having just hit pavement with my bare foot going a little faster than i would have liked.
The only thing I have found that I dont like about my speedplays for triathlon is what happened at a race this year. What I found is that I think they unclip TOO easily.
Do you have Zeros or Light actions?
at AG Nationals, there was an uphill exit from T1 and a LOT of athletes had trouble getting into one-sided pedals...all the flying mounts were really crawling/meandering mounts...and these were all very experienced triathletes.
Did you see the guy fall on his $8k bike? That sucked. I don't know what kind of pedals he had, though.
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Not fast enough.
Did you see the guy fall on his $8k bike? That sucked. I don't know what kind of pedals he had, though.
i was standing at the barrier and saw a guy on his shiny red P3 totally bite it right in front of me. He had to pull out of the race...it actually didn't look like a pull-out-of-the-race tumble, but maybe he tweaked something in addition to his ego...I felt worse for his bike
[hope he's not lurking]
...I felt worse for his bike
That's how I felt :p
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-Matt
Not fast enough.
The only thing I have found that I dont like about my speedplays for triathlon is what happened at a race this year. What I found is that I think they unclip TOO easily.
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I had the exact same problem when I would stand on the pedals to like climb a hill I felt like half the time I was just about to unclip very unnerving. I have the light action I think.
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Do you have Zeros or Light actions?
Zeros.
I had the exact same problem when I would stand on the pedals to like climb a hill I felt like half the time I was just about to unclip very unnerving. I have the light action I think.
I think some people just are not ready for how much float they have. It doesnt bother me, but they do have TONS of float, much more than say, my SPD on my mountain bikes.
My problem was only when my feet were not actually in my shoes. i.e. shoes clipped in and me standing on top of them for the dismount.
Zeros.
That really surprises me. Light actions don't clip in as positively, but a bunch of roadies have told me that zeros were the best for sprinting and stuff. I've had a few people try to convince me to switch to speedplays from shimano pedals for sprinting in bike races because of people pulling out of shimanos. Oddly enough, I've never pulled out of mine, and you've pulled out of speedplays......maybe triathletes are just completely different from roadies (surprised? I think not :D)
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Not fast enough.
Dont get me wrong... They are AWESOME for sprinting/hammering and such. What happened to me was when i pivoted to dismount while standing on my shoes, not in them (i already took my feet out) i managed to twist my shoe enough for it to disengage and my shoe fell off with me standing on it and i nearly fell down at the dismount line going into T2.
It did not pull out vertically. I have pulled out when using SPDs which i have on my MTBs.
I used speedplays on my road bike and Looks on my tri bike until this year. During Ironman Florida last year I had a lot of foot pain from my Looks so now I ago exclusively with Speedplays.
During my last race I took my feet our of my shoes as usual for a quicker dismount. During the pedaling on the top of my shoes I lost my right shoe. Since it was a sprint race I didn't stop to pick it up hoping that one of the volunteers at the corner would grap it for me. That was the last I've seen of that shoe. Moral of this story:
It's easier to get out of speedplays (IMHO):rolleyes:
You can use speedplays without cycling shoes.:D









[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Why is it that I see a lot of people doing triathlons, exspecially the pros, using the Look pedals that you can only clip in on one side? Why not use the speedplay pedals which can be clipped into from both sides? This might be a newbie question, but I am about the purchase pedals and would really like to know which pedals would be better.
It just seems taking the time to find the right side of the pedal to clip into would waste time. I am searching for peoples advice and personal opinions on this one! Thanks![/FONT]