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started by sccrutch on August 7, 2007

Gang:

I need some help/advice regarding fine-tuning my aero position. I ain't no spring chicken, so maybe my body just needs to adjust. I'm a 40 y/o 6'2" 185 lb. male. I've been on the road bike for a little over 2 years.

I live in a town that doesn't have a full-fledged tri shop. I just bought a Cervelo P2sl from a local shop in Austin. They certainly loaded me up and fit me out. The switched out the bars to fit my long arms, and they have a reputation for being good fitters, but you know how it is when you get a new bike.....half that stuff goes in one ear and out the other. They are available any time I need to get adjusted, etc., but I'm only in town about once a month.

So I took my first real ride this morning, and I just hope that riding in the down position takes some getting used to.

I felt some tension/stress in my elbows. Maybe I have them too far forward? Too far back? They told me about two-fingers from the back of the pad to the edge of the elbow. Maybe I should start with the bars higher until I get some more time on the bike, then drop them down a little?

Where is the front weight supposed to be? More toward the elbows? Or more even along the forearm?

What about your head position? I tended to want to drop it down, but that's not exactly safe. If I tried to "look up", my neck would get stiff.

Anyway, any advice you guys can give on tweaking the position would be much appreciated.

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kylie posted 48 weeks ago.

I tend to try to get right angles from shoulders to elbows to forearms (if that makes sense). I place my arms on the pads where it makes that happen, as it lets my skeleton help my muscles support my weight. I keep what weight i have forward on the pads I think. That is the biggest comfort area for me -- when that is right, much of the fit feels better!

For eyes -- I know I ride looking down a bit, but up enough to see what is coming. That's one reason (that and better control) that I sit up around lots of other bikers/people. I did try an aero helmet this weekend, and found that with it I have to look up a tiny bit more but that it basically sits right on my back where I am, so I take that to mean it's a decent head position.

Another thing to keep in mind is that we all have different flexibilities. I am pretty flexible, and ride with (so I've been told) a bit more drop than a lot of women ride for long course. But it is where I'm comfortable. The best fit I ever had used no tools, no theoretical angles, and had no goal of getting me to a certain position. Instead it was *all* done on how I felt -- minor adjustments of everything on a fit bike, with about 8 different sets of bars, and just seeing what I said was "better" between sets of choices. In the end we took measurements, and it just happened that I was pretty much right in the recommend tri bike ranges! And I'm convined that I'm at the part of the range right for me.

What I'm getting at is that depending on how the fit was done, feel free to play with your setup -- add or remove a spacer, see where you are comfortable. Just keep your measurements written down so that you can go back to the other ones if they were better. A good bike fit to me is now a long process of getting a set of numbers, and then playing with it on the road. Best of luck!

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Iron Dan posted 48 weeks ago.

I had the same types of problems as you are having. There are a few aches and pains that develop when riding in a different position the first few times. I had terrible lower back pain the first few times I rode my tri bike. After a week or so it went away as did the neck pain. I would just ride it a few times as long as the pain is not to the extreme and see if it gets better or not. If it does and the bike feels comfortable then you are good to go. If it does not get better, take it to the shop and tell them the problems you are having and they should be able to adjust the bike to eliminate the problems.

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sccrutch posted 48 weeks ago.

Thanks for the replies. You both bring up very good points.

I must have forgotten that when I first started riding my road bike, I had some mild soreness/discomfort that soon went away after (a) I got more time on the bike and (b) I tweaked the seat height and position.

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Sloswimr posted 48 weeks ago.

At 5'11" 165, I had position issues too. So, I don't believe it is your size. I spent (wastes) a lot of time trying to tweak my position.:mad:

Finally, I went to the local buke shop and was professionally fitted and all my problems went away. The best $65 I ever spent.:)

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Triguy98 posted 48 weeks ago.

Give it a week or so between tweaks. There are specific muscles that the tri position hits that nothing else really can. Expect a little soreness. The more you move stuff around, the longer it will take to adjust.

Be very systematic in your adjustments. Ride in your current position for over a week. Maybe 2. Let you body settle in and adapt. If there is one particular thing bothering you, amek the adjustment and give it a couple weeks. Try not to mess with too many variables at once- just like high school science ;)

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bgreinke posted 47 weeks ago.

In case you're curious, there is a pretty good (my opinion) tri shop in downtown Houston - Trivantage. I've bought a few things including a wetsuit from them (no bikes...yet). Not real convenient if you're in Beaumont, but a lot closer than Austin. Just an FYI in case you didin't know.

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Sandman posted 47 weeks ago.

Seriously, you might try doing Yoga....To improve your flexibility then gradually lower the front end as your flexibility and tolerance for holding that position improves. You might bring it up a bit now, it might be more comfortable for you.
The neck pain eventually goes away with more riding. You have a Cervelo, so Don at ATC could help refit you there.
A core strengthening exercise you can do to help hold this position is called a "Plank". Try to hold it for as long as you can. Good luck

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UFTriGator posted 47 weeks ago.

+1 to all of Sandman's stuff. I was doing a bunch of yoga and planks (and some other stuff, but really mostly just those), and the guy who works with our team on fits commented on how most people can't hold as low of a position as I was able to do. I have a 10" drop from my seat to my bars and I'm comfortable there for 3 hours. I definitely notice the difference there compared to old positions. I've actually gotten to the point where I put out more power there than I do in a less aero position (double-bladed sword, I guess :D)

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