A Question about Lifting....
Strength training: Off-season 3x week, Early season 2x week, Main part of season 1x week
Core work all year
RV
It takes a long time to get good. - Scott Molina
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss
during those 3 days a week, 2 days a week etc what kind of lifting do you do? Do you do a full body lift each time since you aren't lifting as much?
I pretty much follow the program in the Training Bible
http://www2.trainingbible.com/resources/Triathlon_Strength_Program.pdf
RV
It takes a long time to get good. - Scott Molina
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss
Weight training for endurance athletes is very important. Not only will it make you a stronger athlete, but you will tremendously reduce your chance of injury during training. The type of weight training endurance athletes should be doing as always been misconstrued. Most people think "light weight and lots of reps". This will do nothing for your strength. It is an oxymoron to think of doing strength training and then lifting light weights. There always has to be a progression throughout the year when looking at your off season, pre-season, and in-season schedule. Off season weight training is 3-4x/week and you are working more on building muscle (8-12 reps), strength (5-8 reps), and increasing your power (3-5 reps). Pre-season should be 2-3x/week and should focus more on strength (8-12 reps). In-season should be 1-2x/week and the focus here is maintenance
(12-15 reps).
Whatever the recommended reps suggest, your form and technique should be precise. I always tell my clients to pick a weight that you will have perfect technique during the set. If you are struggling to get the last 4 reps, and your form suffers, then the weight is too heavy.
Endurance strength and conditioning is all about training specific movement patterns. The workouts should be full body routines that specifically assist the sport you are training for. You should have a purpose for every exercise you do in the gym. Doing "arms" is a waist of time for endurance athletes, unless you are doing them just to have "nice arms".
Here is an example of a type of workout for an off-season day (this all depends on the level of the athlete):
Dynamic/Active warm-up: 8 minutes
Single Leg balance work: 2 minutes
Rotator Cuff Pre-hab: 4 minutes
Core Work
Front Plank: 3 x 25 seconds
Controlled Med. Ball Crunch: 2 x 10
Side Plank: 3/side x 20 seconds
Strength Work
Single Leg Squat: 3 x 6/leg pair with
Chin-ups: 3 x 8
Stability Ball Leg Curls: 3 x 6 pair with
Perfect Push-up: 3 x 10
Standing Shoulder Press: 2 x 10
Post-Lift Conditioning
Medicine Ball Slams: 5 x 20, rest 40 seconds in between
Post-Workout Foam Roll/Stretch
The set-up of the workout doesn't really change with the season we are in, just the sets and reps and the volume and intensity. Usually in-season, it depends on how the athlete is feeling and if they have any nagging injuries. In-season will be a very efficient workout that will take no more than 45 minutes.
If you have any questions, please let me know. Hope this helps!
Justin Levine
www.justintrain.com
"Be excited to live and enjoy every day to the fullest!"
Good advice. The reason I talk about lighter weight and higher rep because its the idea of building muscle endurance. If I go into the weight room and do a solid chest and back or chest and tri workout and then try and swim the next morning or later that day - I am going to be struggling. Especially if I lift heavy. I have seen pro triathletes on FitTV and other shows and you watch them in the weight room and they either don't lift at all, or only do a few core sets and call it a workout. It seems like most triathletes, when they do get in the gym, they do a full body mix. Not chest and back one day and, bis and tris the other etc. But rather, a mix of all of your body. I am just trying to figure out the best way to lift in the future as I move more into the sport of long distance triathlons...
It seems like most triathletes, when they do get in the gym, they do a full body mix. Not chest and back one day and, bis and tris the other etc. But rather, a mix of all of your body.
Right - all this "back and bi's one day and chest and tri's another" - is for hard core strength athletes - not endurance athletes.
I'm also of the opinion that, in your case (I'm assuming you're pretty strong, since you have a lot of weightlifting experience) you're wasting your time lifting at all IF you're trying to be as fast a triathlete as possible. If it's more important for you to be a buff triathlete, or a "well rounded" athlete - lift away - but don't kid yourself - lifting won't make you faster. Even if you're not a real big guy, the muscle you DO have is attuned to the power-oriented training it's had in the gym - not the slow-twitch function required in this sport.
Triathlon training plans that call for weightlifting aren't written for people who are already strong weightlifters - they're written for typical puny endurance athletes, IMO.
Good luck!
I have to say that I don't do weights in season. Training for an IM takes up enough time and I just dont have it in me to add any more. Will I ever be competitive? probably not and I am ok with this. I do plan to start back up after my race when I train for just my marathon and have more time/energy
In season weight training doesn't necassarily mean going into the gym and "hitting the weights". I personally want to get super fast at triathlons, but I also want to stay injury free. So, at least once every 10 days, I am in the gym doing my maintenance work and pre-hab exercises so I can stay healthy and stay away from nagging injuries. I used to lift all the time and now 95% of my training time is spent to triathlon training, but that other 5% is in the gym working on maintaining my strength.
I agree with the above comments except for the fact that you can not increase your speed with gym work. Now, of course you have to spend lots of time in the water, on the bike, and running. You have to do tempo and interval days to get faster, I know this. But in the off-season, if you want to increase your power on the bike for example, you can do that by doing the correct things in the gym. If you increase your overall strength, then you will be more powerful on the bike, especially in the hills. I am not saying to "get bigger" in the off season, but to get stronger and increase your power output. The strength and conditioning aspect of triathlons is underated, because there does need to be time spent in the gym to be a better triathlete. When you are a better overall athlete, you will increase your speed, no matter what discipline you are doing.
This is a good topic to talk about, since many people have questions about it.
Justin Levine
www.justintrain.com
"Be excited to live and enjoy every day to the fullest!"
Right - all this "back and bi's one day and chest and tri's another" - is for hard core strength athletes - not endurance athletes.I'm also of the opinion that, in your case (I'm assuming you're pretty strong, since you have a lot of weightlifting experience) you're wasting your time lifting at all IF you're trying to be as fast a triathlete as possible. If it's more important for you to be a buff triathlete, or a "well rounded" athlete - lift away - but don't kid yourself - lifting won't make you faster. Even if you're not a real big guy, the muscle you DO have is attuned to the power-oriented training it's had in the gym - not the slow-twitch function required in this sport.
Triathlon training plans that call for weightlifting aren't written for people who are already strong weightlifters - they're written for typical puny endurance athletes, IMO.
Good luck!
Thanks...That is kind of what I was thinking. I am not too big. Only 5'9" or 10 and about 160 pounds, but I have lifted pretty heavy over my last year in high school, all of college, and my year or so out. Even though I am not too big, I can lift a lot so its kind of a situation for me where I realize that I simply can't continue the type of lifting program I might have in the past. I probably could if I was a duathlete but, at least in my case, the lifting kind of messes with my swimming. I wonder what kind of weight training pro swimmers do? I'll have to look into that. I figure i'll start mixing my workouts with full body and get in like 3 days a week with different lifts and sets each day. Man, that is tough for a so called (chest/back, bis/tris, shoulders, legs) guy like I have been over the years. Oh well, no one cares what you can bench anyways. I'd rather be an IRONMAN!



For all of you longer distance triathletes at the 1/2 ironman and ironman level, how often do you lift weights? I think as I start to extend my distances more and move into that ironman range, I am going to half to lift a considerable amount less. Probably a lot of core, leg training, and some upper body but all low weight higher reps? The reason I am asking is that throughout college and even now I have always lifted relatively heavy. Although I only weigh in at a whopping 160, I have always been a good lifter and lifted regularly with my friends. As I start to train a lot more I feel like I will need to create a new lifting regime if I am going to become an Ironman. I am sure some ironman athletes lift regularly but it seems to me that many rarely lift, and if they do, its mainly core and a little bit if legs if anything. What are everyone's thoughts on lifting?