New Article on Suffering
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beads1985 posted 2 years ago.
Good article.
The physical part of the training is something most people can do.
The mental part is what gets us thru when our physical part is pushed to the limit.:D
'Nothing to it, but to do it!'
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Anton posted 2 years ago.
Raising a daughter was suffering...divorce was suffering...caring for ill parents was suffering...
Running, biking or whatever..I don't care how hard it gets...that ain't suffering!
( I can't apply suffering to myself,when so many people in the world really are.)
"A little nonsense now and then is cherished by the wisest men."
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beads1985 posted 2 years ago.
Anton;74966 wrote:
Raising a daughter was suffering...divorce was suffering...caring for ill parents was suffering...
Running, biking or whatever..I don't care how hard it gets...that ain't suffering!
( I can't apply suffering to myself,when so many people in the world really are.)
Amen to that on all counts.
Running next to me for 50 miles while I yap might change your mind about suffering though :D
'Nothing to it, but to do it!'
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Anton posted 2 years ago.
Believe me...I can think of worse things...
anyway good article and I love Pez...my favorite bike site...especially "The Daily Distraction"
"A little nonsense now and then is cherished by the wisest men."
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PrinceofClydes posted 2 years ago.
marvinz;74897 wrote:
Folks, ..Comments welcome.
Best,
Marvin Zauderer
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"Ignis aurum probat, miseria fortes viros"
Very useful.
Thanks for sharing, MZ.
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marvinz posted 2 years ago.
Thanks to all for the kind words!
I did a series on the 5 Core Skills of Mentally Fit Cyclists (the basic concepts apply across all sports, however). Here are the links if you're interested. Comments welcome.
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/default.asp?pg=fullstory&id=4647 *(Overview)
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/default.asp?pg=fullstory&id=4715 *(Goal-Setting)
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=4781&status=True *(Self-Talk)
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=4886&status=True *(Managing Emotions)
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=4969&status=True *(Concentration)
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=5027&status=True *(Communication)
Best,
Marvin
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kona_expat posted 2 years ago.
I second the Amen!
I can't imagine ever experiencing the suffering doing sports that I have experienced in my personal life.
Anton;74966 wrote:
Raising a daughter was suffering...divorce was suffering...caring for ill parents was suffering...
Running, biking or whatever..I don't care how hard it gets...that ain't suffering!
( I can't apply suffering to myself,when so many people in the world really are.)
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Star posted 2 years ago.
Yeah, I've done some reading about "suffering" in the IM, and I'm no Pro, but I never feel like I'm suffering out there. Yes, its difficult and physically challenging and tiring, but of I were truly suffering (like with a broken bone or puking 7 times...:D ) that'd probably be it for me that day. I think a strong mental game helps overcome most of those physical challenges we encounter in our races and training.
"I'm more fun than an iPod!"
My blog:http://starsnextbigthing.blogspot.com/
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Anton posted 2 years ago.
A strong mental game...gets you through life.
"A little nonsense now and then is cherished by the wisest men."
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beads1985 posted 2 years ago.
Star;75002 wrote:
Yeah, I've done some reading about "suffering" in the IM, and I'm no Pro, but I never feel like I'm suffering out there. Yes, its difficult and physically challenging and tiring, but of I were truly suffering (like with a broken bone or puking 7 times...:D ) that'd probably be it for me that day. I think a strong mental game helps overcome most of those physical challenges we encounter in our races and training.
Since I only puked 6 times at the NYC tri(which was an Oly) I wasn't really suffering :D
'Nothing to it, but to do it!'
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PrinceofClydes posted 2 years ago.
Star;75002 wrote:
Yeah, I've done some reading about "suffering" in the IM, and I'm no Pro, but I never feel like I'm suffering out there. Yes, its difficult and physically challenging and tiring, but of I were truly suffering (like with a broken bone or puking 7 times...:D ) that'd probably be it for me that day. I think a strong mental game helps overcome most of those physical challenges we encounter in our races and training.
That's right, Star, whether you think your are suffering or you don't, you're probably right.
It's an attitude and you get to choose your attitudes.
Choosing the attitude that helps you achieve your goals is part of the mental game to which Anton refers.
Choose, "I am strong, I am light, I run like the pond skater skipping across the lily-pads" (pick your own phrasing) and you are more likely to endure the discomfort associated with running 30,000 strides over 42kms than if you choose the attitude,
"My feet hurt, my back aches, I can't do this!"
Common sense really. Norman Cousins famously spoke about the language we use when talking about suffering with terminally ill cancer patients. He noted how the phrasing affected the attitudes of the patients - either positively, or negatively. Of course we should choose the positive approach every time. The point here is that our "attitudes" must per force be couched in language, therefore choose positive language. We think in words. Words affect how we feel. Connect the dots.
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- Anton
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tri-ac posted 2 years ago.
that makes it all sound so easy [positive thought]
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deepbluex posted 2 years ago.
You are your own worst enemy and best ally depending on attitude. I totally agree with that.
The worst conversationalist I know of when I am out there alone sweating and emptying my energy tanks is me. I don't want to hear myself talk or think. I get sick and tired of hearing myself think.
And that's a wonderful lesson. It makes you realize that you are not so special to deserve being the center of other people's attention let alone your own at all times.
Folks,
First article in a new series on Responding to Adversity:
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=5176&status=True
Comments welcome.
Best,
Marvin Zauderer
Mental Training Consultant
and USA Cycling Level 2 Coach
http://www.wholeathlete.com/psychology.htm