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started by luna on July 24, 2007

I need your help here! :) I know it is kind of silly but it really bugs me. There is a person in my triclub who really goes on my nerves. I mean he really bugs me and tries to get into my head by saying mean and stupid things. In training he for example says: Wow, you really suck. You are really bad. Maybe you should just stick to popping out babies! or he looks on my race results and shakes his head and says stuff like: Wow, that's is really bad!
I know, I am not the super triathlete but I am happy with what I am doing and I don't want to prove myself to anyone but myself. I avoided him in races so far. We never did the same distances. However, he heard a while ago, that I am doing a sprint just for fun and he registered too although it is not even his "thing". He told teammates that he just did it to "get into my head" and "screw me over" (his words). I don't have a problem with him talking about me or whatever but I am nervous for race day. I am worried that he is going to stand in front of me and do the same thing again and completely get into my head and throw me off. He somehow managed to get into the swim heat behind me (although he is 45) with all the 30s. People told me he knows the race manager or whatever (I don't care). But does anyone have an advice how to switch my brain off so that I don't see and hear him??????? :confused:

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deepbluex posted 1 year ago.

If he owns a race horse, put its head in his bed while he's sleeping. I've seen it done in a movie once.

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Slimpee posted 1 year ago.

What's he gonna do, drown you? No, he'll just talk alot. Ignore him and he'll get bored.

If he has the mentality of the 1st grader (which it sounds like he does) he probably likes you.

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kylie posted 1 year ago.

That sucks. I'd second ignoring him. I hate when people go about getting attention all the wrong ways. What you do is for you -- good job on it, and keep up the good work! You are doing exactly what is right for you: so great job training! :)

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azstinger11 posted 1 year ago.

Woah what a jerk, just know this (even if his times are faster then yours) you're the better triathlete. Every time he makes some insult or slight he is just trying to justify in his own mind that he is indeed better then you, but he isn't! Anyone that results to saying stuff like that to anyone, let alone a team member, is very insecure and not to be taken seriously.

When I had someone telling me the same things, I couldn't cut it, I should just wash out, he would see me fail yet, I didn't let it get me down but every time he said stuff like that I made it my mission to prove him wrong. So everytime this jerk says something like that, just think woah I'm doing so well he's terrified of me or just use them as mental challenge that there is no way you'll let him be right.

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Triguy98 posted 1 year ago.

I'm not exactly diplomatic with this sort of thing. I'd insult his intelligence, family, looks, wife, ex, dog, whatever. Then tell him he can take a flying jump into a pile of... Or even better- if he pulls up next to you on the bike, stick a frame pump into his wheels. Dont have a frame pump? Sounds like a good opporuntiy to make the investment.

Or.... you can pull him aside, tell him you dont appreciate the comments and his immaturity, that you realize this is his way of building himself up, but it makes him look like and ass and very unattractive and that he needs to bugger off.

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azstinger11 posted 1 year ago.

Triguy98;74101 wrote:
I'm not exactly diplomatic with this sort of thing. I'd insult his intelligence, family, looks, wife, ex, dog, whatever. Then tell him he can take a flying jump into a pile of... Or even better- if he pulls up next to you on the bike, stick a frame pump into his wheels. Dont have a frame pump? Sounds like a good opporuntiy to make the investment.

Personally I'd say don't lower yourself to his level by doing this stuff no matter how gratifying it would defiantly be. It would most likely only result in it continuing or getting worse

Triguy98;74101 wrote:

Or.... you can pull him aside, tell him you dont appreciate the comments and his immaturity, that you realize this is his way of building himself up, but it makes him look like and ass and very unattractive and that he needs to bugger off.

that I very much agree with.

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gh posted 1 year ago.

azstinger11;74100 wrote:
Every time he makes some insult or slight he is just trying to justify in his own mind that he is indeed better then you, but he isn't! Anyone that results to saying stuff like that to anyone, let alone a team member, is very insecure and not to be taken seriously.

Gotta be someone that's unsure of their position on the foodchain. Reminds me of a friend's dog. He was a big burly beastly dog and would bark, growel and sneer whenever I came around. After a couple weeks of my completely ignoring him, he would just lay down at my feet.

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UFTriGator posted 1 year ago.

Wow....you guys are a lot more mature than I am. I'd just kick him in the balls and give him the finger. :D

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gh posted 1 year ago.

Does he have any food allergies?

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UFTriGator posted 1 year ago.

gh;74112 wrote:
Does he have any food allergies?

Now you're talkin! Nothing say bugger off like a weekend on the can!

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toni posted 1 year ago.

UFTriGator;74108 wrote:
Wow....you guys are a lot more mature than I am. I'd just kick him in the balls and give him the finger. :D

You know, that was the only thing I could think of when I first read this post.

I agree with most everyone else though. Look up where he usually lands in his OWN age group. Is he in the top 25% or the bottom 25%? If the latter, rub it in. "Looks like you need to work on yourself instead of me since you can't get out of the bottom 25% of your age group. I'm sorry you're so insecure, but it's not ever going to make you a faster triathlete OR a better person to try and compare yourself to me. You should be out here for yourself, not your limp ego. Now f off and get out of my way."

Since you're not fighting back and just ignoring him by being the bigger person it makes him think he can get away with it and only makes him want to do it more.

Also, for that sprint, just spend your time in the bathroom or somewhere else away from him prior to race start and go in the wave after him. Then you'll have a nice serene race with no one but yourself in your head.

OR just wear some headphones with music playing loud enough that you can't hear a damn thing he says. Then if he talks to you and you can't hear him, he looks like the idiot he is.

Good luck! We're all rooting for you!

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RV posted 1 year ago.

What a loser this guy is ... What is he your ex or something. Lots of animosity there.
Ignoring is probably the best - though not easy to do - but he obviously needs an audience.
Have you spoken to any of the leaders in your tri-club. That is not the team environment that they want to foster. Maybe they can talk to him and if he doesn't let up boot him out of the club.

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cayman posted 1 year ago.

RV;74118 wrote:
What a loser this guy is ...
Have you spoken to any of the leaders in your tri-club. That is not the team environment that they want to foster. Maybe they can talk to him and if he doesn't let up boot him out of the club.

Couldn't agree more, get this guy dressed down and put in his place by the people in charge, kicked out if possible.

Also, he's probably only attacking you when you're alone, make some new friends to hang with at the club and at races. I'm sure he doesn't have the balls to attack you with other people around.

Personally, I'm in the not so subtle kick in the nads camp, but hey that's just me.

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Triguy98 posted 1 year ago.

azstinger11;74104 wrote:
Personally I'd say don't lower yourself to his level by doing this stuff no matter how gratifying it would defiantly be. It would most likely only result in it continuing or getting worse

Wha?? You can get in an argument and NOT insult the other person's intelligence and so on? I thought that was the whole point of confrontations. ;)

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beads1985 posted 1 year ago.

UFTriGator;74108 wrote:
Wow....you guys are a lot more mature than I am. I'd just kick him in the balls and give him the finger. :D

cayman;74121 wrote:
Couldn't agree more, get this guy dressed down and put in his place by the people in charge, kicked out if possible.

Also, he's probably only attacking you when you're alone, make some new friends to hang with at the club and at races. I'm sure he doesn't have the balls to attack you with other people around.

Personally, I'm in the not so subtle kick in the nads camp, but hey that's just me.

I'll 3rd that vote and I'll lend you a big pair of steel toe combat boots to do it.

Next, while he is writhing around on the ground in pain, talk to the person who is the president of your tri club and get this a- hole booted out of the club.

Maybe we can get a few trifuelers together an pay this guy a visit with a blowtorch and some tongs :D

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watrbg2 posted 1 year ago.

luna;74089 wrote:
He somehow managed to get into the swim heat behind me (although he is 45) with all the 30s. People told me he knows the race manager or whatever (I don't care). But does anyone have an advice how to switch my brain off so that I don't see and hear him??????? :confused:

Perfect solution! Let him catch you on swim then give him a couple swift kicks to the nads - he'll leave you alone after that.

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qb ant posted 1 year ago.

I agree with talking to your tri club brass. Is he annoying anyone else? He needs to be set straight and apparently ignoring him isn't doing the trick. Call him out in front of others and tell him what an ass he is. If that doesn't work, the horse head is a good idea :cool:

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o2Ripper posted 1 year ago.

Why not just call him out on it? "Why do you keep bugging and annoying me? Whats your deal buddy? We aren't friends, I'm not doing this to impress you, it's for me. Now go get a life!"

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christri25 posted 1 year ago.

do you have his email address ?? we can sign him up for thousands of web crap spam stuff.

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vanjames posted 1 year ago.

WWhat is the opinion of other members of your club - do they all tolerate this? If they do it reflects badly on the club as a whole. Talk to the executives of the club and see what they say - if nothing gets done turn him into a eunich.

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LongTime posted 1 year ago.

This is probably the first time I've recommended this because I don't normally believe in physical confrontations, but this guy needs a good old fashioned butt kicking.

45 years old and acting like a 15-year-old brat? Time for the guy grow up just a bit, maybe?

Maybe some brute that lifts weights at the YMCA could teach the idiot a lesson.

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kkocan posted 1 year ago.

If he gets near you on the swim and it's a wetsuit swim grab the leash on his zipper and pull it down.

Or, find a friend or someone you know that is faster than him and have them go up to the guy and say, "wow, you suck, maybe you should take up bowling".

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LongTime posted 1 year ago.

The thing is that everyone sucks compared to someone better than them, except maybe for the world champion or Lance Armstrong.

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Beldrueger posted 1 year ago.

I thought those kind of people only existed in movies. He sounds like a caricature.

I have a strong personal policy of only surrounding myself with people who provide a positive influence. I simply don't have any tolerance for negative personalities. This is not always possible, but you can choose where you work, who you hang out with, and what clubs you belong to. How important is the club to you? If you don't have any strong friends in the club, and if the club in general doesn't object to this individual's behaviour, than leave.

He probably posts over on Slowtwitch.

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cayman posted 1 year ago.

Just another option, the next time this guy says something to you respond with, "I've seen you in tri shorts and it doesn't seem to be the cold water doing the damage." Make sure there are alot of people around. :D

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PNine posted 1 year ago.

I am a bit more up-front and demanding of equal treatment of/for all. I would, very briefly and directly and in a calm voice, state that you don't appreciate the comments and that unless he has something worth while to say, he should not speak to you. Doing it in front of others is additionally helpful. From that point, ignoring him is the best approach until he makes another move.

If he comes at you with another low comment, you ignore it and, at the same time, draw recognition by others to his being an a$$.

Hopefully he will either stop it and keep to himself or fall off of the face of the earth.

That being said, I also like the food alergy approach. . . . :D

Best of luck

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Tikal Dog posted 1 year ago.

I also think you should try to get this guy kicked from the club.

And you can also provide us with his name so if any other trifueler sees him at a race we can kick his sorry ass.

Hate people like this complete idiots. Send us his name so we can make some serious campaign against this soab. Team Alamo member I guess?? Send us details.

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fittycent posted 1 year ago.

When/where is this upcoming sprint you mentioned?

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beads1985 posted 1 year ago.

cayman;74154 wrote:
Just another option, the next time this guy says something to you respond with, "I've seen you in tri shorts and it doesn't seem to be the cold water doing the damage." Make sure there are alot of people around. :D

Ah yes, the verbal kick to his insufficient manhood!!

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PJT posted 1 year ago.

I'd normally vote for the kicking too. However, it sounds from this guy's behavior that he's trying to compensate for something and so you'd probably be aiming at a pretty small target.

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beads1985 posted 1 year ago.

Invite him to log on to trifuel.com, and send him to this thread.
We'll take care of him...:eek:

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

The next time he comes near...scream "No...Don't touch me! Help!
The Police and your lawyer should be able to get the message across.

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beads1985 posted 1 year ago.

Anton;74175 wrote:
The next time he comes near...scream "No...Don't touch me! Help!
The Police and your lawyer should be able to get the message across.

Nice Idea!!:D

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Ultrarunner posted 1 year ago.

I'm reminded of how Lloyd got back at Harry in Dumb and Dumber. How about a little (Actually a lot) of laxitive in his sports drink on race day! Then you could go up to him later and say something like, "Man you're really shi%$*y at this triathlon stuff!

Seriously, the guy has problems. Just ignore him. All he wants to get out of you is a reaction. If that doesn't work tell him that your dad can beat up his dad.

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beads1985 posted 1 year ago.

Ultrarunner;74186 wrote:
I'm reminded of how Lloyd got back at Harry in Dumb and Dumber. How about a little (Actually a lot) of laxitive in his sports drink on race day! Then you could go up to him later and say something like, "Man you're really shi%$*y at this triathlon stuff!

Seriously, the guy has problems. Just ignore him. All he wants to get out of you is a reaction. If that doesn't work tell him that your dad can beat up his dad.

Actually, your dad may be only a little older than this butthead and he could kick his booty :D

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JohnieTri posted 1 year ago.

Anton;74175 wrote:
The next time he comes near...scream "No...Don't touch me! Help!
The Police and your lawyer should be able to get the message across.

Nice!

Here's a few choices:

1. Next time he tells you that you suck, tell him his momma sucks.
2. Kick him in the balls!
3. Let the air out of his tires just before a group ride.
4. See if you can get in front of him on a group ride and then practice your "Peeing-on-the-bike", or do a bunch of snot rockets without warning.
5. Pee in his water bottle

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TriOnLife posted 1 year ago.

I agree with a couple of comments:
1). He is insecure and it's much easier to trash you than to deal with himself
2). Call him out when he does it and make sure you have an audience. Something like "I really dislike it when you put me down like that. What is your point? I enjoy this sport and that in no way impacts you so how 'bout you shut the hell up?"

See how that works? You start out real civil and then give him what he's got coming? Hopefully he will be sufficiently embarassed to leave you alone. I would also inform the club president/leader/whatever about this situation. It's just wrong.

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TMann posted 1 year ago.

He is attracted to you. It's the same immature/macho attitude that a 6th grade boy will display for the girl he likes, but is too afraid to admit it. Most guys will outgrow it and learn some actual social skills, but it is obvious that he wants attention from you and he only keeps it up because he knows it bothers you. I used to work with a guy named Eric who liked to be the center of attention, so I treated him like a 2 year old with ADD and said "Awwww does widdle ewic want some attention again? that's so cuuuute." That got under his skin. The one thing that any woman can do to embarass any man is to make fun of him in front of a group of women, especially if he is attracted to one of them. Hurting him physically won't be as bad as scarring his pride and masculinity. Let us know how it goes and good hunting.

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Jstyle posted 1 year ago.

Triguy98;74101 wrote:
I'm not exactly diplomatic with this sort of thing. I'd insult his intelligence, family, looks, wife, ex, dog, whatever. Then tell him he can take a flying jump into a pile of... Or even better- if he pulls up next to you on the bike, stick a frame pump into his wheels. Dont have a frame pump? Sounds like a good opporuntiy to make the investment.

Or.... you can pull him aside, tell him you dont appreciate the comments and his immaturity, that you realize this is his way of building himself up, but it makes him look like and ass and very unattractive and that he needs to bugger off.

Me personally, the first one is all me. The second one is a better idea though really have a sit down with him. We all know that's not easy but it will most likely get rid of the problem.

Good Luck

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Jstyle posted 1 year ago.

TMann;74300 wrote:
Hurting him physically won't be as bad as scarring his pride and masculinity.

Hehe I disagree :)

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ggalvao posted 1 year ago.

When he addresses to you do not listen to it. Interrupt him and say:
I've got a shrink's phone number. He can take care of your insecureness.

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hateloveschool posted 1 year ago.

I had this problem with a teammate in lax this past year. The best thing I found to make this guy stop doing, like this guy is to you, is to ignore him when he is cutting you down, or others, and encourage him when he doing well.

It actually helps over a long period of time. There are people in this world who are simply jerks, and it seems best to tell them off and shove them into the dirt, like they do to you. But the reason they do it is they are usually not secure. The easy thing to do is too do what they're doing to you, but they'll just keep at it. You'll make yourself look better to others by actually being nice to him, regardless of how he is acting toward you, and cause people to question of why he is being a jerk. In the short run, yeah it'll feel good to go down to his level, but in the end, if you simply ignore him and uplift the guy when he does something well, people will see you in a better light and he might see that as well. I guess that is a kind of "cheesy" answer and seems a little weak, but honestly its harder to be nice to someone who is a complete jerk.

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Ken B. posted 1 year ago.

Try responding to every comment with an absolute nonsequitor.

"Jeez, you really suck today."
"It's okay though, I mailed the batteries to Cincinatti."
"Wha..?"

"Give it up, you'll never be a decent triathlete."
"French fries before a race? You must be kidding."
"Huh?"

Or this:

"You're such a loser."
"Give me your number. The minute I care what you think I'll call you."

Or this:

"How can anyone be so bad?"
"Kiss me, you toad."

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beads1985 posted 1 year ago.

hateloveschool;74409 wrote:
I had this problem with a teammate in lax this past year. The best thing I found to make this guy stop doing, like this guy is to you, is to ignore him when he is cutting you down, or others, and encourage him when he doing well.

It actually helps over a long period of time. There are people in this world who are simply jerks, and it seems best to tell them off and shove them into the dirt, like they do to you. But the reason they do it is they are usually not secure. The easy thing to do is too do what they're doing to you, but they'll just keep at it. You'll make yourself look better to others by actually being nice to him, regardless of how he is acting toward you, and cause people to question of why he is being a jerk. In the short run, yeah it'll feel good to go down to his level, but in the end, if you simply ignore him and uplift the guy when he does something well, people will see you in a better light and he might see that as well. I guess that is a kind of "cheesy" answer and seems a little weak, but honestly its harder to be nice to someone who is a complete jerk.

It seems to be a "cheesy" and "weak" answer.

BUT... Actually you are right. Kill him with kindness.

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qb ant posted 1 year ago.

Hey Luna-
How about an update it's been three days, have you nailed him yet?

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