A Caution and a Rant.
Get responsible folks....there is no clean up crew after a training day...carry your garbage home..it won't slow you down.
Yes please. Oh, and on race day, if you aren't at an aid station, same rule applies. Ride smart.
One thing I like about the tri scene is the friendliness and companionship and respect of each other -- let's make sure to extend those to the communities we visit so that they want us back!
Good points Anton.
I've heard lots of grumblings around Madison for IMWI. Traffic laws are another big issue. The rolling through stop signs etc really gets the locals upset.
RV
It takes a long time to get good. - Scott Molina
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss
Same goes around the Okanagan for IMC. It seems the enthusiasm seen on race day is prequeled by much grumbling thru the training season. There ahve been occasions that tacks have been tossed down on the shulder on the IMC course the night before the race (thinking 2005) - Not everyone is going to be happy but if you pick up your garbage and make it like you werent there maybe the tacks will disappear as well.
Good post.
I think this a good example of the "I'm on vacation" phenomenon. It's not pretty.
Dude goes away on a trip for a week, wants to relax as much as is possible while riding, running, and swimming. Has paid a crazy amount of money to do an event. Eats clif bar, not having pockets, thinks "one wrapper wont hurt" and drops it. Problem is, so do the other 15 dudes he's there with. People just relax and dont think right when theyre not home. They prolly wouldnt drop this stuff on their home course.
Be sharp and represent, people! Not only is this littering, it reflects bad on ALL of us... except maybe Anton who mustve looked funny with his pockets over flowing with junk.
Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.
good post. it is unfortunate as triathletes are getting a bad wrap because of those that don't use common sense and consider the locals, environment, other riders. I think it does have a lot to do with the mentally of it's not my home I'll do what I want, like house cleaning will come around and fix things. really sad and dangerous. locals retaliate (sp?) with tacks on the road, or not giving the right of way. We need to show some common sense and respect out there.
Great post Anton!! I hope this gets read by many triathletes. Perhaps Tribro could post your rant on the front page of Trifuel as an article. You could probably hit up Slow Twitch and Beginner Triathlete and get it out there too just to cover as many sites as you can.
I've helped coordinate races (water stations) and have run many other races where sh!t is just everywhere. Especially on my training rides here at home. People either are not paying attention or just don't care. They assume "someone" will pick it up. We are ambassadors of our sport and guests on the courses. Treat it like you would if you were camping. If you pack it in, then pack it out.
-Toni
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. - FDR
Good post! People usually needed to be reminded of their responsibility to respect others every so often. I've seen some people, or evidence of people, that need to review your rant lately. Thanks!
Man that really sux I never thought about it like that. I guess I have been the culprit a few times on dropping gu when I was riding I will try to pick it up more now..
WE have to be pro-active...Never drop garbage... stuff it in a pocket and take it home or put it in a trash can at your next stop.
If you're riding with others and one of them drops trash...say something. If they don't pick it up,YOU pick it up (embarrassment goes a long way.) If you are riding alone and see stuff...stop and pick it up...it's not that hard.
Always say thanks to Vols...Volunteer at a race, the one you are doing,either before or after the event. Write a check to the IM community fund. You can give them money you know without it being for a slot...When you go to a race...be polite, be respectful of the locals...tip well if the service is good. Take an interest in the community whether you live there or not.
If you're not part of the solution,you're part of the problem.
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?"
- Vincent Van Gogh
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For quite some time I bought myself a Vento box and I use it all the time so I have a place to put my empty Gu´s and Bar wrappers.
Great post Anton! We can make a difference ourselves.
Hyperactive Trifueler!!!! (I refuse to let the status go :p)
tip well if the service is good.
We were joking about this in IMAZ it must suck being a waiter during the week preceding.
"I'll have water and can you give me some more of that bread." At least the few days before the event we have the cheapest bill out there.
Probably an extension of the "It's all about me" and "I'm special" mindset prevalent throughout much of our culture. It's like the motorist that honks at cyclists stupidly riding two abreast on a busy 2-lane road. The rider then gives the motorist the obligatory finger. How do you think that motorist will react to the next cyclist he sees? Probably think about running him over. As triathletes we need to keep in mind the consequences of our actions, like how will it affect other triathletes in the future. Common courtesy and good manners is all we need to do.
Great post Anton.
For those of us who don't have pockets in our clothing, lycra shorts are a perfect temporary location for storing items. Sure your quads look like they have some strange growth on the side, but hey, it's a small price to pay for keeping the peace, and keeping the area clean. This usually works best on the run, use a bento box to store items on the bike.
I've been to more races recently that are incorporating a low-impact environmental stance on usage of a venue. This includes trash, vehicle emissions, and overall energy use.
So remember, stuff it in your shorts. Throw it in the trash when you're done.
I spoke with Anton this weekend about this.
Wherever I go If I see garbage I pick it up if I can and I encourage my kids to do the same. Sometimes we'll go to a park and it will be a mess. I start picking up and they join in. They are learning that sometimes you have to pick up after others who are less responsible and mature.
I thought of this thread when I saw a number of gu tabs and a couple packets on the ground *right next to a garbage can* at a water fountain while I was out running. Part of me said "but I'm in the middle of the run"... but the other part of me was louder and I stopped and lifted the garbage into the can.
I thought of this thread when I saw a number of gu tabs and a couple packets on the ground *right next to a garbage can* at a water fountain while I was out running. Part of me said "but I'm in the middle of the run"... but the other part of me was louder and I stopped and lifted the garbage into the can.
That is all it takes, and what makes the difference.
If you stop and reach down to stretch your calf then you can pick up the garbage at the same time!:D
That's great you guys!...When I was running with Scott Yesterday I noticed some trash on the trail...I'm going to hike it later...this is an off day...and take a garbage bag.
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?"
- Vincent Van Gogh
My Blog: http://anton.trifuel.net
And thanks to you Anton -- otherwise I would have been a bit annoyed that people dropped stuff (esp. right by the can) but probably would have ignored it. Now I have my tri brothers making sure I keep in mind what is really important :)
And thanks to you Anton -- otherwise I would have been a bit annoyed that people dropped stuff (esp. right by the can) but probably would have ignored it. Now I have my tri brothers making sure I keep in mind what is really important :)
If we watch out maybe we can set a good example for others and others will do it too. I want a place to run and bike and enjoy, and I want it to stay that way for my kids.
I have a mildly humorous good-do-be trash related story:
So, I have only done one tri before and it was a sprint. So, I don't typically need to refuel during workouts short of maybe a gatorade on the longer ones. However, normally in the mornings I eat a lot. Like every 2 hours. So, I knew that the timing of this race between breakfast and lunch meant I would need to eat my normal mid-morning snack right after the swim. Usually, I call this breakfast part 2 but since I would be racing I limited it to a snack; a chocolate chip granola bar I regularly eat. So, I tore open the granola bar wrapper during the part where I had to walk the bike out of the transition area. I slowly, happily much along and around mile 2, I finish. At which point what crosses my mind is "Oh, cr@p! What am I going to do with the wrapper?!" So, now imagine a newbie on her bicycle in her first race trying to find a place to stuff her trash. I try to hang onto it in my hand in the meanwhile making shifting and breaking interesting. "No where on the bike.... No Pockets.... Thank goodness I am wearing Tri-shorts! I'll stuff it down my pants!"
So now, the race has ended. I've been through an enormous amount of excitement and have long forgotten about the wrapper stuffed down my pants. I go for a little swim and go to change in the beach house where it's pretty much an open changing area. I take off my tri shorts and out falls my souvineer onto the ground in front of a couple baffled spectators, and I just laugh. And finally try to find a trash can.
The street I live on is part of a popular run/jog/walk route made even more popular because a couple local 5K and 10K runs and charity walks are held on the street every year. I have noticed many of the regular runners collect trash along their run and it seems to breed like-mindedness. If you pick it up chances are someone will see you and think about picking something up next time they have the chance.
The street I live on is part of a popular run/jog/walk route made even more popular because a couple local 5K and 10K runs and charity walks are held on the street every year. I have noticed many of the regular runners collect trash along their run and it seems to breed like-mindedness. If you pick it up chances are someone will see you and think about picking something up next time they have the chance.
Hear, hear!
I do the same. On my runs I can usually spot a trash can to drop collected items. I even carry the odd popcan back to the house and eventually return them for the deposit. I call it my reward for doing a good deed.
PoC
"Pain heals, chicks dig scars, glory is forever." - Shane Falco.

I would echo Toni's comment on pack it in pack it out...it's called Leave no Trace. I was embarrassed to race the 70.3 steelhead race a few weeks ago and see all the trash (gu, drink bottle, equipment) we left outside aid areas. As a slow poke starting in the next to last wave I got to see a lot of it. All of my gu packets, banana peels and trash made it back to transition with me. Drink bottles were exchanged at the aid stations. It's not hard. I thought this community was better than this. By the looks of it, some of us are. hopefully it becomes the standard and not the exception. Thanks to those of you who do your part and a bit more.
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Yeah tri shorts are great for holding stuff! I often use the side of the shorts to hold a gel for a long run. However, I usually stuff up (through the leg), not down (the waist). Just remember in a race to get rid of it at the next aid station -- some gu things can scrap and rub in bad ways... or leave odd gu marks ;)
I did a similar thing that was more embarrassing. At a Tri on Sand Key FL, I was in a later wave. I'd only gotten about 100 yards when I feel something like velcro hit my hand. I grab it and its a ChampionChip. I tried to swim with it in my fist but that wasn't going to work. The only thing I could do was stick down the front of my shorts. No top no pockets.
As I finished the swim, I figured the chip belonged to some one in my wave so I tried to retrieve it while still knee deep in the water so it took a long time. I was yelling, "did any lose their chip" when I realized the strange looks I was getting...especially when I finally pull it out!
Noone answered so I went to drop it off at the rack where the numbers matched. I saw a lady from the previoius wave about to exit T1 and had no chip. I called to her and it was hers.
I never told her where I kept it during the swim and I am very grateful there were no "water exit" photos that day!
I also have a funny gu story. I was coming in off the run and saw a Gu no where near an aid station and I was on a 20 second walk break so grabbed it stuffed it so tight on the bottom of my tri shorts and didn't think anything of it. So I come in to the finish and everyone is cheering but then they start giving me these really odd looks. Right after I cross the finish line two paramedics come over and tell me in very urgent voices that I need to sit down and they think I may need to go to the hospital. I tell them no I'm feeling fine why in the world should I go to the hospital. The amount of blood I must have lost plus the exercise meant they said it was a wonder I was still standing, umm what blood loss I didn't fall of anything. They tell me to look at my leg, well apparently the Gu still had a lot in it and was like raspberry so it looked like I had nicked a major artery on the back side of my leg as it was just covered with this Gu and when dryed looked very much like dried blood. Once I told them what it was they laughed so hard I think they almost needed to go to the hospital.
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I also have a funny gu story. I was coming in off the run and saw a Gu no where near an aid station and I was on a 20 second walk break so grabbed it stuffed it so tight on the bottom of my tri shorts and didn't think anything of it. So I come in to the finish and everyone is cheering but then they start giving me these really odd looks. Right after I cross the finish line two paramedics come over and tell me in very urgent voices that I need to sit down and they think I may need to go to the hospital. I tell them no I'm feeling fine why in the world should I go to the hospital. The amount of blood I must have lost plus the exercise meant they said it was a wonder I was still standing, umm what blood loss I didn't fall of anything. They tell me to look at my leg, well apparently the Gu still had a lot in it and was like raspberry so it looked like I had nicked a major artery on the back side of my leg as it was just covered with this Gu and when dryed looked very much like dried blood. Once I told them what it was they laughed so hard I think they almost needed to go to the hospital.
Imagine if you picked up a chocolate GU, and it was running down your leg?
They would never believe you when you tried to explain the brown stain was just GU. Until you freaked people out by tasting it!! :D
Imagine if you picked up a chocolate GU, and it was running down your leg?
They would never believe you when you tried to explain the brown stain was just GU. Until you freaked people out by tasting it!! :D
ewwwwww :eek:
RV
It takes a long time to get good. - Scott Molina
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss
Imagine if you picked up a chocolate GU, and it was running down your leg?
They would never believe you when you tried to explain the brown stain was just GU. Until you freaked people out by tasting it!! :D
I am tempted to do this on purpose, just for fun!! :D
I am tempted to do this on purpose, just for fun!! :D
Nope, not surprised. At all :)
I am tempted to do this on purpose, just for fun!! :D
Of course, you'd have to taste it in front of everyone!:eek:
Of course, you'd have to taste it in front of everyone!:eek:
But of course!!
As Pre would say;
"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift."
In my case it would be the gift of Goofy :D
Of course you should do it in front of the biggest crowd you can find, Scott if you're goin' to do it...go big!
Hey...I went for a long ride today...and carried all my garbage home....there, Back on topic. ;)
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?"
- Vincent Van Gogh
My Blog: http://anton.trifuel.net
Of course you should do it in front of the biggest crowd you can find, Scott if you're goin' to do it...go big!
Hey...I went for a long ride today...and carried all my garbage home....there, Back on topic. ;)
That is why I would love to do Kona!!
I would do that on TV as I cross the finish line!!
That would be so cool!! :D
...and carried all my garbage home....there, Back on topic. ;)
I always do that. I'm sitting on the bike.;)
...rotflol !
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?"
- Vincent Van Gogh
My Blog: http://anton.trifuel.net











Spent the first weekend of July and a few days after in Lake Placid training and racing getting ready for IMLP. Did Tinman and had fun which is why I love "C" races. Swam the IMLP course..biked and ran some trails...
Here is the "Caution"
You hear alot of things when you are out and about in a tri town especially if you don't wear anything that id's you as a triathlete.
I heard complaints from locals, including some bike shop folks that everyone is growing weary of the whole IM scene. Oh, It's not race day..it's the weeks leading up to it. Complaints about the training camps who come to town,ride five abreast across the road and drop gear and gel packets everywhere and think the locals are there to serve them. Group names were named... I personally witnessed an incident On Friday the 29th of June. I went to Mirror Lake (Where the IM swim is held) to watch the Junior National Canoe and Kayak Championship finals... I sat near the finish, close to the judges and race officials. In the middle of the event,while waiting for the next heat, two wetsuited folks appeared and proceeded to swim in the middle of the course! The race Radio crackled "Get a boat over there and get those people the hell off the course." They did...when when they were stopped you could hear them yelling at the officials in the boat...they left the course but had to be escorted...In the middle of a National Championship!
If we are not careful...and continue to think life revolves around triathletes...we'll find ourselves short of venues.
Now the Rant:
I rode the course for IMLP, as I've done many times, on Monday the 2nd and couldn't believe the crap on the roads! Empty gel packets, Clif Bar wrappers,Inner tubes and spent co2 Cartridges and one punctured Conti Sprinter sew up. I picked up all I could but my jersey pockets were full so I had to pass a bunch of stuff.
Ya can't blame it on the local roadies because the area was thick with IMLP camps all the week before. I am ashamed to call myself a triathlete. Have some of us turned into big headed pigs who feel they can crap on anyone and anything that isn't involved in tri's? This is the home of some fine people...the same folks who come out and support us on race day...and they're home is treated like that? Get responsible folks....there is no clean up crew after a training day...carry your garbage home..it won't slow you down.
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?"
- Vincent Van Gogh
My Blog: http://anton.trifuel.net