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started by goldsmithnb on July 8, 2007

okay not really, but i do have some questions. I went for my last long ride of my pre-Ironman prep, (6 hours). When I got back i felt fine, but after a quick jog I started feeling alot of pain in my lungs. They felt as if they had been scorched, and it was HURTING to breathe. I then felt really weak and had to lay down on the grass. When i did, all the sudden my ears started ringing really loudly, and I couldnt even hardly hear. after laying there for about 5-10 mins, the feeling passed.

so here are the details: I rode from 1-7pm, in a 100 degree day, high humidity. I drank about 8 24 oz bottles of gatorade/h20 mixed about 50/50. I felt thirsty, but I felt as if I was performing well and was drinking about every 10 mins. i consumed about 700 calories otherwise, from gu and fig newtons. I felt great as i arrived home, in fact was suprised how good i felt. but then my problems started.
So is my nutrition plan just wacked or was it just really hot or what? I have never experienced this before on my 5 or 5.5 hour rides. anybody have any ideas?

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toni posted 1 year ago.

Can you elaborate on the scorching feeling and exactly where it was hurting?

Did it feel like it does when you go running on a <30 degree (F) day?

Did your breathing increase during your run like you were starting to hyperventilate?

Did you drink water towards the end of your ride and afterwards/before your run?

How hard were you riding compared to your run?

Sorry for all of the questions, it's my Nursing side taking over.

-Toni
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catwood posted 1 year ago.

More electrolytes? 50/50 gatorade and water probably does not have enough...

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goldsmithnb posted 1 year ago.

toni;72651 wrote:
Can you elaborate on the scorching feeling and exactly where it was hurting?

Did it feel like it does when you go running on a <30 degree (F) day?

Did your breathing increase during your run like you were starting to hyperventilate?

Did you drink water towards the end of your ride and afterwards/before your run?

How hard were you riding compared to your run?

Sorry for all of the questions, it's my Nursing side taking over.

I hadnt thought about it, but it is close to the same kind of feeling you would get on a really cold day breathing hard. My breathing was very even on the run. I wasnt pushing hard at all, and my heart rate was very much in control. I WAS pushing a little hard toward the end of the ride, but nothing out of the ordinary. I dont know alot about electrolytes, but there may be something to that.

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kylie posted 1 year ago.

I'd say it could be something with your nutrition/hydration plan. Depending on your sweat rate, 8 bottles might be as well, especially in those temps. And yes, electrolytes could be part of it. If you water down the gatorade because the taste is too strong full strength, perhaps look into some other electrolyte options (for example: hammer makes endurolytes which are capsules with electrolytes, or nuun makes a less-sweet sports drink with them).

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lkkowski posted 1 year ago.

I got heat exhaustion on Saturday with 96+ temps. The only thing is that with heat exhaustion it's hard to keep your heart rate down. So that might not be what you had. but something to think about.

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RV posted 1 year ago.

I did a 5.5 hr ride in 100+ temps this weekend and I went through 8 bottles of full strength Gatorade Endurance plus 3 bottles of water on the ride. In addition I was taking an Enduralyte or two every hour. A gel with water every 30 min. Plus a bottle of Gatorade and a bottle of water prior to the start of the ride. I did another 1/2 bottle of water immediately after the bike for the transition run. All said in done - I was still slightly dehydrated.
Now I do sweat alot so I need to take in lots of fluids.
You should measure your sweat rate to determine how much is appropriate for you.

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vanjames posted 1 year ago.

Your nutrition seems like it needs some more cals/electrolytes for sure - as RV mentioned check you sweat rate. I did a 6hr ride saturday in warm (compared to 100+) temps and drank 6 bottles of electrolytes plus a concentrated bottle of fuel (1800cals) something else to google - EIA (exercise induced asthma)? Some of what you mentioned sound like mild symptoms - do some googling on it - it happens to me on occasion -mostly in winter training in colder dry air but pollution etc are also contributing factors. The symptoms usually subside a few hours after training.

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toni posted 1 year ago.

Actually the lung thing was most likely Acute Respiratory failure. Acute, meaning short term of course, but goes away once the offending activity is stopped. I've gotten it once while on a long run trying to run 2 miles farther than my body would allow, i.e., I went from a 10 miler to a 14 miler and my lungs refused to continue after 12.5.

Nuun is great. I would definitely give that a try next.

Good luck.

-Toni
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craigery posted 1 year ago.

I would agree with more calories. Only 700 cal. for 6 hours of effort is not very much. I would say you burned at least 2000 with that about of time in the saddle and maybe more. Maybe that is not totally accurate but 700cal is definitely not enough.

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

Look into Exercise induced bronchitis or asthma as vanjames poited out...I suffer from it after IM's and ultras and sometimes long workouts...it passes after awhile...
I agree with the more electrolytes and more cals too...sometimes though, the body just says "STOP." and returns to normal in a bit especially training in the heat. You say this comes at the end of an IM training cycle...a time when the body is definately prone to mutiny!

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goldsmithnb posted 1 year ago.

thanks alot for all the help. i am gonna try to get some nuun and see how that works out. It shouldnt be that hot on the race course, but i want to be ready anyway. Thanks again!

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vanjames posted 1 year ago.

Withthe nuun - its great stuff for electrolytes but has no calories - make sure you have adequate gels, bars etc for energy.

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kylie posted 1 year ago.

or add some carbo-pro to the nuun (my personal favorite electrolyte and nutrition strategy... at least this week :))