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The reason I ask is I keep rolling this around in my noggin', and I just can't seem to come up with the motivation to commit to doing one.

Could be I've run eight marathons and several centuries, and just don't have the desire at the moment for 6-hour bike rides and 3-hour runs.

At this point in my life I'm just happy staying in shape and doing sprints, olys, and occasional HIMs.

Just wondering where the rest of you are in that thought process? What motivates you to do the events you compete in, whether triathlons, running, cycling, or all of the above? Why the distances?

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Tribro posted 1 year ago.

ya. I'm not motivated to do one at this time. I'm happy running and riding my bike and occasionally doing smaller races. But work has taken a priority and so it's time to focus on that and stay active through the sports I enjoy doing, but Ironman isn't on that list right now.

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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.

There are times when I have been interested in the Iron distance (twice so far in 20 years of triathlons) and plenty of time when I'm not, too. IMs take a certain time commitment that I find takes away from the other things in my life that I'm interested in, so it's not something I'd do all the time. But they are challenging and fun and have their own appeal, so I'm glad I trained and completed the distance. I will probably do another IM distance race in 4 or 5 years, but not until then.

I generally pick events based on triathlons I am interested in doing, not just for the distance but for the event itself. For instance, I have a favorite race that is a non-standard distance (1k swim, 30 mile bike, 5.5 mile run) that I really love just because the scenery is so beautiful and because it is still relatively small (about 350 people) and mostly local triathletes. It hasn't become the huge circus that, say, the Pacific Crest races have. But sometimes I'll choose to do a huge circus, just for the appeal of so many people racing and the different energy that brings. As a coach, I've taken groups of women (mostly first time triathletes) up to do Danskin Seattle several times and really enjoyed the big energy there of 4,000+ triathletes (and fortunately can race as a pro in that one and avoid the general throngs in the race itself).

I also like to challenge myself at different distances. Each distance has its own challenges and I've found that a sprint is as hard as an IM, just in a different way. A sprint is so intensely mental, every second counts if you're competing. So you have to be really on your game, and you're pushing yourself to the ultimate edge for over an hour so they are really tough physically too. I've found a trend, especially online, of people being kind of almost dismissive of sprints, as if they are just for newcomers. But I think the sprint is a hard distance to do well so I always do one or two a season.

My typical season looks like at least one sprint, one oly, and one HIM. Then I throw in some other races for fun - odd distances or cool locations, or last year the IM.

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catwood posted 1 year ago.

I'm not planning to do an ironman, or even a half, anytime soon. I would rather be competitive locally at the sprint and olympic distance. I just don't have the time or commitment to train that quite enough and from what people tell me, I won't have any more time until I retire (I'm 20 now).. I enjoy being a bigger fish in a little pond with small local sprints and olys. When I do an ironman, or a half if I do one, I want to be competitive.

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LongTime posted 1 year ago.

I haven't yet notice the elitism some show against sprints, but think it's funny, nonetheless. Are they disrespectul of athletes that compete in the mile, 5000 meter, 10,000 meter, and so forth? Those events all require unique approaches to training that differ from, say, a marathon. A sprint triathlon is roughly equivalent to a 10K race, imo, and if you do it right it's far from easy. One of my toughest races was a 5K a couple years back. Was a marathon harder? Yeah, but the two events are apples and oranges.

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catwood posted 1 year ago.

I agree... Sprints and Olys are really really hard!

I had an interesting conversation that went like:
"So, you do triathlons too, eh?"
"Yeah"
"Have you done an ironman yet?"
"Nope"
"Oh... Well then... Uh when are you doing one?"
"Not for a long time if ever"
"Oh..."
*Looks at me superciliously and walks away from the probably really slow non-ambitious non-competitive triathlete*

Sometimes it bugs me that that many people, triathletes included, think that an ironman is the ultimate goal for all triathletes. Mostly it doesn't bother me.

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ht001 posted 1 year ago.

I totally agree that the shorter distance stuff is a totally different game than the long stuff. Each of which require a different type of conditioning, strength, and committment.

I have done IM, and will soon sign up for my second one, during this season in which my focus is 3 HIM races. I did a late addition to the race calendar sprint a week ago as a means of tuning up the transition process (that didn't go so well - btw) and though I won my AG, I hated how I felt. Thought I was going to hurl 200 yds from the finish line. Pushing that hard for that period of time is a heck of a challenge. I fully respect you for having a preference and drive to continue to push that and the oly distance. It takes a different sort of commitment and perseverence which, only those who don't understand can't appreciate.

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

I'm traing for am IM (34 days and counting) and have some other long shennanigans planned for the fall.
Just got in from a 7 hour ride. Ran 3 hours yesterday...I'm tired and miss the everday stuff...Next year I'd like to get back too my roots and run some short stuff,some sprints,some du's...cross country...and bike tours...and have time to travel...
Long time...most of my favorite athletes have never done an IM...It's not a requirement. It's just that right now, it's "The next cool thing to do." But you're cool without it!

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LongTime posted 1 year ago.

Thanks, Anton, but my 14-year-old daughter thinks I'm anything but cool. Apparently I embarrass her at every turn, lol.

10 hour weekend. Wow. Rest well.

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grlawguy posted 1 year ago.

First off, I am in awe of those of you who train and compete for HIM and IM. I know it is not in the cards for me --too many other things going on (family, career) and, to be honest, I don't want to work that hard. I love the sprints and looking to try my hand at an OLY in August.

For all of those out there doing HIM and IM --I raise my chocolate milkshake (and the occasional beer, wine, gin gimlet) to you all --race on!

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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.

catwood;70745 wrote:

Sometimes it bugs me that that many people, triathletes included, think that an ironman is the ultimate goal for all triathletes. Mostly it doesn't bother me.

Ugh, what a conversation! Reminds me of a friend of mine who was told "Congratulations on your partial triathlon" (meaning that anything less than an IM is not a "full" triathlon - snort!)

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Red5 posted 1 year ago.

Well, I agree that Sprints, Olymics, and Halfs are awesome achievements, especially if you are competetive. I also agree that an Olympic is a very painful race to do fast. I think that Ironman's perception in the world at large is justified, not becuase of the distance incolved or the training required, simply because it was first. IM Hawaii for most of the American public IS triathlon, like it or not. I don't agree with that point of view, but as long as NBC covers IM and Olympic only comes around every 4 years on popular TV, that's the way it's going to be.

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

LongTime...a14 year old daughter? Been there, and you have my deepest sympathy. ;)
One day...she will think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread.

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Star posted 1 year ago.

I choose the HIM and IM distance because I'm a "slow-twitch" person. The longer and slower, the better! I feel like I'm going to stroke out when I do sprints or intervals :D I'd like to be fast (and tall and skinny too!!!), but I think my physical makeup is built for endurance over speed.

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Jstyle posted 1 year ago.

I don't know if I am the minority or not because it seems like people get addicted to the Mdot. I only did the Ironman so that I could challenge myself and see what I was capable of. Now that I have completed it I don't really have the desire to do another again in my life because it is just too taxing. I still do local sprint's and Oly's (Maybe a HIM at the end of the season this year) all the time and I love them because I can podium on them. Even more important I feel like I have a life when I am competing in sprints outside of just triathlons. Being the only member of my freinds and family that does tri's I have no one to train with and that just sucks. It used to kill me when every one went out to play football or raquetball and I couldn't because it would hurt my training. Now that I am a Triathlete that competes just not in the Ironman I am more versed as a person...
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Anton posted 1 year ago.

Will all those who are fast-twitch impaired please raise your hands...slowly.
I hear ya Star...in a race I'm usually hanging out with Yertle the Turtle. Just don't care about being fast anymore...I felt great the day I made the decision to stop beating my head against THAT brickwall.

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fittycent posted 1 year ago.

athlete - A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility [speed], and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts. (from American Heritage Dictionary)

Therefore athlete = ironman = sprint triathlete = 100 m sprinter = marathoner = powerlifter = boxer = .............

An athlete is an athlete...

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LongTime posted 1 year ago.

Uh, I hope we're not going to debate which sports are truly athletic and which are not. Golf? Bowling?

Some of my hardest training, anaerobically, occurred when I ran the 1600M and 3200M in high school. I remember doing 400 and 800 repeats, and man that was hard.

In some ways I agree with the late, great Steve Prefontaine: "12 miles is enough fun for me." As a 5000M runner you can get away with a long run of that distance. For me five or six hours of anything and my fun meter is pegged out, which means HIM max for now.

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JRH posted 1 year ago.

never did one in my 11 yr tri career and probably won't do one in the next 11 yrs. don't have the time to commit to a good honest effort and ironman isn't something you should try and bluff. someday maybe but don't think it's something necessary in my life.

proud and high or low and humble - many miles before I go

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Red5 posted 1 year ago.

Golf: The cat of sports :).

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Jstyle posted 1 year ago.

Last olympics (2004) that I saw there is olympic speed walking now... I was speechless for hours after that.

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

Um...Jstyle...You're a little behind the curve...Racewalking has been an Olympic sport for the last 100 years.
A sanctioned sport by the USATF.
The Olympic entry standard for the 20k is...1:23.
The standard for the 50k...4:00.
Now ...I don't know about you but I can't run 50k in 4:00 (PR 4:19 on a flat road course)
Olympic times respectively are around 1:17 and 3:42.
I race walked seriously in 1977 and 78 and it is NOT easy...(100k PR :9:38 on a track)
Its a tough sport where you can get DQ'd for bad technique.
Take a gander at racewalk.com

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ggalvao posted 1 year ago.

There is a famous sports scene where a woman I don't know who falls on the ground after completing a racewalking 50k race, I think!

It's impressive!

But what about IM? I don't have the time, I don't want to compromise my social life (friends, girlfriend) and most important is that right now I don't have the knees to do it.

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tri-ac posted 1 year ago.

as said above...slow or fast, athletes compete...

...so go easy on the golf!

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Red5 posted 1 year ago.

tri-ac;70999 wrote:
as said above...slow or fast, athletes compete...

...so go easy on the golf!

Not passing judgement. Cat's are the second most popular pet in the US, they just do NOTHING for me ;).

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kevinb421 posted 1 year ago.

I'm a little behind the curve on this post but my personal feelings are that I am doing an IM in 2008 to test myself. I want to see if I can do it and how well I stand up to the challenge. As in previous posts I am just not as fast as others but I have always had the slow twitch muscles going for me. The longer and slower, the better I preform. Sprints and Oly's are great fun and I plan on never stopping them but they are not something I will be able to excel at for many years. I think HIM and IM are something I could place fairly high at with the given effort.
I also won't waste my time talking to someone who thinks that IM is the be all end all of Tri's. In my experience those people are either new to the sport and either change their opinions or drop out, or are people with no Tri experience. They just watched Kona on TV.

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Jstyle posted 1 year ago.

Anton;70990 wrote:
Um...Jstyle...You're a little behind the curve...Racewalking has been an Olympic sport for the last 100 years.
A sanctioned sport by the USATF.
The Olympic entry standard for the 20k is...1:23.
The standard for the 50k...4:00.
Now ...I don't know about you but I can't run 50k in 4:00 (PR 4:19 on a flat road course)
Olympic times respectively are around 1:17 and 3:42.
I race walked seriously in 1977 and 78 and it is NOT easy...(100k PR :9:38 on a track)
Its a tough sport where you can get DQ'd for bad technique.
Take a gander at racewalk.com

Wow well I will stop making baseless comments then :) I had no clue it was that big... I still can't help but laugh despite the accomplishments and the speed though.

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

aw..heck no! We love your baseless comments ;) !

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LongTime posted 1 year ago.

I noticed women's beach volleyball was the most viewed Olympic event by men.

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Jstyle posted 1 year ago.

It's clearly the level of competion that I enjoy and the passion that I have for watching the sport.

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LongTime posted 1 year ago.

Jstyle;71081 wrote:
It's clearly the level of competion that I enjoy and the passion that I have for watching the sport.

Amen, brother. ;)

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iron_girl posted 1 year ago.

Hello: Training for an Iron Man Triathlon requieres time, comitment, sacrifice and patience. It is a very personal decision that shouldn't be taken lightly.
To be a triathlete you DON'T have to do an Iron Man, this is not a requirement, it's a choice.
For me, it was also a Journey, kind of the culmination of my humble athletic career and an amazing physical, spiritual and mental experience at the ripe and wonderful age of 55.
When I started doing triathlons in 03, I acctually thought I would never would be able to race an Iron Man Triathlon but, I was wrong.
It took me 3 years to feel I was ready and I did it. I trained 9 months, doing the swim, bike, run workouts religiously. I talk to my husband and my daughters and I told them I was totally commited to do this right and I asked them to please understand. They were completely supportive and a very important part of the whole experience. On race day, September 10th. in Madison, Wisconsin, my husband, my daughters, my grandchildren and sons in law were there to cheer me on. I finished in 15:14:43 taking 3rd. place in my age group.
So, if you are "rolling this around your noggin' " don't dismiss it just yet. Give it some thought, weigh in all the pros and cons of this adventure and then make a decision.
You don't have to be an Iron Man to be a Triathlete. For me, believe it or not, Sprints and Olys are more difficult than Iron Man because I am NOT fast.
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LongTime posted 1 year ago.

Nice post, Iron Girl.

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iron_girl posted 1 year ago.

Thank you, Long Time.
Maria.

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skeats posted 1 year ago.

I'm rolling an HIM at the end of September around in MY head. I think that would be the limit for me.

I know I don't have the time to train for an IM properly. I don't have the knees for it. Most of all, I don't have the passion for it at this time. *** (said in a tiny voice) "Maybe sometime later...***

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BigGus posted 1 year ago.

Oly's are my limit, though I ran the Disney marathon in 1994. I think everyone should run at least one marathon in their lifetime. It was the hardest thing I ever did, and at the same time, one of the most pleasurable experiences of my life. I admire those that can do IM's, but I don't think I'll ever do one. Still consider myself a triathlete though.

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LongTime posted 1 year ago.

Things could change, but right now 5-6 hours of competing in anything is enough for me, and at this time the thought of more 3-hour runs and 6-hour bike rides is not appealing.

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Jstyle posted 1 year ago.

BigGus;71358 wrote:
It was the hardest thing I ever did, and at the same time, one of the most pleasurable experiences of my life.

There you go that is why we do the things that we do. To know that we really gave it all and the biggest reward is internal when we cross that finish line.

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BigGus posted 1 year ago.

Jstyle;71465 wrote:
There you go that is why we do the things that we do. To know that we really gave it all and the biggest reward is internal when we cross that finish line.

Amen brother.

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PrinceofClydes posted 1 year ago.

I could no more "not think" of doing an Ironman event each year after watching Kona in 1993, than I could fly to the moon.

What I saw that day - the duel between Pauli Kiuru and Mark Allen, who won his fifth Kona IM in a row that day - so inspired me that I vowed I had to do ironman. I was overweight, holding a beer and smoking a cigarette at the moment I said that.

It took me ten years to get my act together and in 2003 I did my first of what I hope is an annual event for the rest of my life.

btw, I am 220, 6'3" and 55yrs old, and I haven't even thought about smoking since I committed myself to Ironman.

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