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Is a year enough to train for an IM or HIM?

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I had planned on joining the Marine Corps out of high school, but I'm having a kidney removed and will doubtfully get the waiver to be allowed to join. Since I won't be going, I've made a goal of completing an IM or HIM. I'm 100% new to triathlons though. I never ride, hardly swim, but do run. I once did a half marathon that I thought was pretty challenging, so I can just imagine an IM.

The kidney is coming out later this month, I'll start training again around October or November of 2007. I live in Florida I see that the HIM is in May of '08 which would be pretty close for starting from scratch in October, and I don't know if I could handle the IM in November of '08. My running will bounce back well, but the bike and swim would really be pretty new. Is it possible to compete in either '08, or should I wait till the '09's? I'd rather make the IM or HIM my very first triathlon, it may not be that smart though. I'd rather do it that way because I'd rather be hit hard with the imensity of of HIM or IM than get into triathlons slowly, maybe I wouldn't appreciate how serious it is. Well, I'm here for advice. I understand that I'll have to be watching out extra careful about my single kidney.

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triNick posted 1 year ago.

Tough call! It depend on what your capabilities are on the 3 disiplines. I see you you are pretty much starting from scratch so I would opt for the HIM. The HIM is not as tough as an IM, but it's sure tough enough, epecially for your first race.

A year is for sure long enough to train for either, but it depends on your base training. My IM training plan was 20 weeks, but I had been training before that to build up my base, I'd say my base training to race date will be 7 months. A HIM training plan might be shorter.

A HIM is a good way to try out all of the things you'll need to know for an IM, especially nutrition. Now, when it realates to your kidney issue, hmmm, good question, not sure what to tell you.

I did the IM 70.3 FL race this past May, it was good. I'm doing IM FL in November, so we'll see what that's like then... Training for that starts in 2 or 3 weeks.

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Nobody posted 1 year ago.

Yes. You can do it. A half IM for sure. You might walk part of the run or be slow on the bike, but you can finish if you have the will.

Important thing to remember w/full IM is that they all sell out a year in advance (I got lucky w/community slot). So focus on 1/2 IM distance, have fun and enjoy and then bang out a full course the following year.

Also...the One O One distance is pretty cool. Great event, too...and no problem w/not being able to register.

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Toomey posted 1 year ago.

Alright then, I have to decide then if I can do the HIM this coming May, and if I can do the IM in November of '08. The only thing is is that they sell out so quick that you have to decide way in advance what you want to shoot for. If I'm not ready for either of those, I guess I'll just wait till '09 to do an IM and just build up a nice base in the mean time and do some half marathons and small triathlons for fun.

What is the One O One distance race you're talking about? I'm still really new to this.

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Nobody posted 1 year ago.

One O One is a 1.86 mile swim, 80 mile ride and an 18.6 mile run. It's called the "Nice" distance (based on the city in France, not the American word for something that's pleasant). ;)

I started training in Jan. for a 1/2 IM that's coming up in July. One thing lead to another and I'll be doing KY in Aug....so that's only 8 mos of training (no previous Tri experience).

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Toomey posted 1 year ago.

I've done a little research, and people on dialysis do Ironmans, and I'll be doing the Ironman at 19 years old, people younger than that have done them. Looks like if I train right I'll be able to do this.

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kylie posted 1 year ago.

The key will be training right :)... You'll definitely be able to do it, but you're going to have to listen to your body along with way! Especially with the stress it will already be under. Be careful as you increase your distances not to over do it, and make sure you are consulting your doc as you go.

I'd recommend doing a shorter tri before these if you can. Yes, it can be done as a first. But in the 1/2 IM and IM distance nutrition and being ready for the changes in sports is very important. Having a shorter race under your belt will help you learn how your body reacts with those.

Best of luck!

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kylie posted 1 year ago.

Sorry a bit off-topic but I have to ask....

Nobody -- are you doing Vineman 70.3 and IM KY? Based on where you live I thought that might be the half in July... if so, our race schedules match for both :) Will be fun to have another Trifueler out there!

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Toomey posted 1 year ago.

Yeah, I was thinking of doing a short one just to see how the triathlons are organized and sort out all my equipment and logistics, as well as nutrition. I thought it'd be neat to get hit in the face first with an Ironman.

I also read a bit about how it's not advised for younger people to do these events. I'd be 19 at the time of doing this, my only goal is simply to complete the event however.

So what I'm looking at is one full year of training until Ironman Florida '08, one (maybe two) small practice triathlons before then, one kidney, 19 years old, I have to buy all the equipment still, I think that's it.

Do I have to qualify for either the IM or HIM, or just register?

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kevinb421 posted 1 year ago.

they recommend younger people not doing them because the risk of injury is very high since your body is not fully developed yet. I starting racing when I was your age and only suffered one injury. Just be smart about your training. I am with everyone and strongly suggest trying a sprint of Oly first. Take them easy and get the feel of transitions and what your body goes through in three sports.

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triNick posted 1 year ago.

Toomey;70824 wrote:
I've done a little research, and people on dialysis do Ironmans, and I'll be doing the Ironman at 19 years old, people younger than that have done them. Looks like if I train right I'll be able to do this.

I wasn't thinking when I responded the first time and then it hit me, Shad from MN. In 2004 he became the first dialysis patient to ever compete in and complete an Ironman triathlon. Here are a couple of links, you might have already seen then, but just in case.

Shad Ireland / IronShad

http://www.shadirelandfoundation.org/

You don't have to qualify for a HIM or IM except for Kona. HIM'
s are easier to get into than IM races. If an IM race then you just need to pick which one you want to do and plan accordingly to be able to register.

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Nobody posted 1 year ago.

PM sent, kyillee. Yes, I'll be doing both!

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

Toomey...why the rush? Just curious.
Many folks take a year or more to recover from surgery...some don't.
I'd wait till 2009...you sound like a strapping lad and waiting a year will only bring you better health and strength and maturity.

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Toomey posted 1 year ago.

It was a real bummer not leaving for boot camp when I thought I was, because the kidney. I'm going to be doing two years at a local community college, and that's not exactly very adventurous or exciting, so I wanted to set some big physical goals, and a marathon seemed too easy with an entire year to train, and an IM seems kinda too hard with one year to train. I guess I'm not sure. Supposedly recovery time on this is about 6-8 weeks till full recovery, that gives me the green light in October.

I was also hoping that if I complete an IM in November of '08, they would be more willing to give me a waiver, seeing my fitness level with a single kidney, and let me join in the spring of '09 after I get me AA. I could postpone the IM till November of '09, but then I'd only be killing one bird with one stone I guess, because I'd be back into a four year school by then, and I'd really like to serve in the military.

Ironman Florida doesn't go on sale till November and I don't recover until September/October, so I've got time to think about this.

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ggalvao posted 1 year ago.

One year and after a surgery?

I am a living proof that putting too much stress in too little time on your body is not healthy.

Do things rationally. You could train and get the feeling of it. If it feels like it's okay then go and do it.

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tri-ac posted 1 year ago.

Anton;70944 wrote:
Toomey...why the rush? Just curious.
Many folks take a year or more to recover from surgery...some don't.
I'd wait till 2009...you sound like a strapping lad and waiting a year will only bring you better health and strength and maturity.

i'd agree. do base training for a while. you'd be surprised at how much time it takes to FULLY recover from surgeries

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Flip12 posted 1 year ago.

I have to say be really careful after surgery too. I am only 21 myself and had surgery on my wrist in February. There is still a bit of pain now and it was really simple surgery. I did push things a little and didn't wait the required time though. Was doing silly things like running the day after being released from hospital. Just take it easy, trust me. Don't learn the hard way plus a kidney is alot more serious than a wrist in regards to health! Good luck though!

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Toomey posted 1 year ago.

I'm sure I'll change my mind a million times, but I revised my goals to the following:

Local half marathon in Feb. '08
Marine Corps Marathon in Oct. '08
Florida Half Ironman in May '09

Along with a few small running events and sprints in the meanwhile. I figure this pushes the IM all the way to over 2 years from now, and I only have to contend with a HIM in a little less than two years from now. I did that local half marathon this past February and I'd like to do it again. A half marathon 8 months after surgery won't be too big of a deal I hope. If I am able to complete these events I may have a better chance at getting my waiver 2 or 4 years from now. Thanks for the advice everyone. Above all I will listen to my body and not do anything stupid.

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kylie posted 1 year ago.

good plan! Being smart about it will let you make it not just a goal that you reach and move on from, but a lifestyle :)

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kevinb421 posted 1 year ago.

I have to agree with kyillee, doing a few races before the IM will mean that you are committing to the lifestyle of tris instead of just setting out to do one big event. Also the half's will give you an idea of just what it takes to do an IM. good luck in the training and make sure to give us updates.

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