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started by bouli on June 5, 2007

Following on from my total immersion thread below- i started my lessons last week. They're for "improvers" although many can barely swim. The first week the instructor said we all had weak kicks, which is something i knew already. He made us do lengths on our side to get used to rotating onto our sides for breathing. It's quite similar to one of the drills in the TI book, but he made us use kickboards. I prefer to do it without the kickboard-i feel more in control and balanced. Is it better to do that sort of drill without the kickboard? My kick is quite pathetic apparently though!

On another note, this week he focussed on breaststroke, although i'd prefer to do freestyle, he complemented my breaststroke. I'm a "natural" which was nice to hear! He even made me demonstrate it for the group!I've always known it was my best stroke, and i can EASILY do it faster and for longer than frontcrawl, but i want to be able to swim frontcrawl with as much ease. Arrhhh! still, it was nice to get a compliment on my swimming for once!:D

Anyways, side kicking drill-with or without the kickboard? cheers.

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ston_ar posted 1 year ago.

Do it both ways, from what you discribed it seems to me that adding the kickboard was suposed to get you off balance and force you to work to stay balenced in the water, so i would recomend that you do kick with the board occationally to make you have to focus on your balence, but do the majority of any kicking without a board.

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Tikal Dog posted 1 year ago.

Bouli I think you should ask this to TI.

But my guess is that they probably know why they are telling you to do it with the board. So listen to them.

On the TI for triathletes book they explained that many of us triathletes refused during the workshops to swim in other stroke different from free. I can´t remember exactly their explanation but the point was that it helps you.

In my Mark Allen 70.3 training plan I have swim sessions with a couple of laps swiming in all 4 strokes. But it is no more than a 10% of total swim session length.

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bouli posted 1 year ago.

Thanks chuck, that's a great video. I'm seeing some progress! Slow and steady eh?!

Cheers!

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bigbuba0 posted 1 year ago.

IMO, doing the drill with a kickboard is throwing off your balance, not helping it. all it is doing is forcing your hips to be low in the water and your upper half to be high. And that is not the ideal position for swimming.
I think the purpose of the board was so that the beginners could keep themselves afloat while kicking on their side, not to help your balance. So if your comfortable without the board, you should be doing it without the board.

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chsfootballgirl posted 1 year ago.

Using a kick board is advantageous. Think of it as a different drill from kicking laterally without the kick board. Kicking without the kick board helps you to find your buoyancy point on your side and memorize how it feels to hold your balance over that point. Using a kick board allows you to specifically strengthen your legs for kicking laterally.

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geochuck posted 1 year ago.

Over the years I have used kickboards even used them between the legs. I have not used one in the last 55 years. They do have their place and that is on the deck of a pool.

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bigbuba0 posted 1 year ago.

geochuck;70487 wrote:
Over the years I have used kickboards even used them between the legs. I have not used one in the last 55 years. They do have their place and that is on the deck of a pool.

especially when kicking on your side

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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.

geochuck;70487 wrote:
Over the years I have used kickboards even used them between the legs. I have not used one in the last 55 years. They do have their place and that is on the deck of a pool.

Different strokes I guess (no pun intended). I use a kickboard every time I work out and have a very strong kick. I have my swim students use them too, and also do kicking drills without them. It works different things.

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