Need help with swim
We've all been there..except those who grew up swimming...
Navigation takes practice...even in the pool practice sighting.
Try and find some open water club practice swims and get there...practice. I usually swim about ten strokes before I sight..unless I'm on a really streight line...then I might go twenty.
Still do sets...but at least one workout a week do a long middle set.For example yesterday I swam 100,200,300,1000,300,200,100.
Too, try breathing every cycle...yes practice bilat...but race, breathing on every cycle (Friel and Byrn,2003)
AS to the goggle thing...just shut your eyes...it works quite well.
And...robbie..I sure hope your comment about getting passed by women was a joke! I know tons of fast men swimmers who get spanked at every race by women...while womens bike and run times tend to be just a touch slower than mens,generally, in the water things are pretty even.
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I was thinking it was because his wave started so far ahead of the women :)
As for the swimming, I agree with what Anton said...
Where in CA are you? I'm in Southern CA and my tri club is having an open water swim clinic soon.
My advice is to seek out a reputable swim coach. It is VERY advantageous to have someone analyze your swim stroke and suggest workouts/drills. Last year at this time, I didn't know how to swim; I couldn't paddle the length of the pool; never took lessons as a kid either. I found a coach and now am doing 1000m swims, swimming in open water, and doing sprint tris. I can't thank my coach enough. Also, join a master's swim group in the winter (off season). You won't believe how that improves your fitness. I've found that this has helped me on the run, which is my weakest event.
Matt
Thanks for the info guys. I am in Southern California. I need to find an open water club pratice swims. There is an aquatic center about 30 mins from me so I will need to check it out if they do this. I really dont want to get into the swing of things of following the black line in the pool again.
Thanks
How close are you to Pasadena/Glendale, or to Corona Del Mar (that's where the clinic will be)?
Check out Inland Inferno -- they are doing an open water swim clinic in about a week.
I live near Magic Mountain, so it would take me about 45min to an hour.
ahh ok... well the clinic is aimed to getting people more comfortable with sighting and open water swimming. If you are intersted there is info and should be some contact emails on the club web page I linked in the previous post, or just send me a note if you aren't finding more info.
I sight other people during the swim and look up less frequently. I don't depend on one person but will watch a group of two or more when I breath, and use them to stay on course. Works well for me and uses a lot less energy than looking straight ahead for the next buoy every ten strokes.




Hi Folks
I came in 2nd to last on my last swim. I know I am in trouble when the women catch up and pass me.
What is sad is that I put alot of time into it at the pool, combination of sprints, drills and what not. My usual time in the pool workout is around 1 hour.
My last tri swim time was 23 mins 1k , as opposed to 18min where the medium time was.
My biggest handicap is that I am not able to navigate properly - I am not as confident where I am heading. I do it well in the pool - just follow the black line.
What is the norm:
1) Number of strokes before you come up to see where you are at? I do breath bilaterally.
2) I am contemplating swimming diagonally in the pool of forcing myself to come and see where I am heading.
3) I plan on swimming non stop up to 25 mins in order to get used to the time, rather than do sets.
4) I wonder if there are any goggles out there that are black when submerged but are visible when not. I am trying to simulate the scenario in an open water swim. If so let me know.
Any positive input where I can possibly shave 1 or 2 mins greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Rob