recovery and antioxidant supplements
All I know is my legs are really sore right now and I'd pop one of those if it did anything. A friend of mine takes "Sports Legs" and really likes them, although he admits it may be placebo...
My favorite stuff for recovery is L-Glutamine (cheaper if you get it in a whey powdwer instead of by itself) and a multivitamin. I noticed a pretty big difference in recovery when I started doing that. As far as antioxidants, I try to get plenty throughout the day from normal food...berries, citrus, herbal tea, etc.
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Not fast enough.
I go the natural route as well. Fruit, especially berries as TriGator said, are awesome. I usually make a recovery shkae with banana, blueberries and rasperries in skim milk with Whey protien powder. I also buy organic plain non-fat yogurt and add dried berries to it.
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Bryan
Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
Well not to be repetitive but ...
I also eat a lot of fruits for antioxidant needs, as well as 1 glass of green tea a day.
Fruits that are especially useful are berries, apples, and citrus fruits. I definately have atleast 1 of each a day.
I find that protein after a workout definitely helps my recovery. Sometimes I have real food, sometimes I have a scoop of protein powder in my sports drink. They both work the same. The protein is the key.
UltraGen from First Endurance is my recovery drink of choice. If I don't take it for a week after workouts I can feel it. Ditto on the fruits for antioxidents. Plus Dove extra dark chocolates. Hmmm.
"Swim smart, ride strong, run tough" - Gordo Byrn
I find that protein after a workout definitely helps my recovery. Sometimes I have real food, sometimes I have a scoop of protein powder in my sports drink. They both work the same. The protein is the key.
For sure protien needs to be part of a recovery drink to help rebuild damaged muscle.....but it's not the key. A recovery drink should be geared towards glycogen, electrolyte, and carbohydrate replenishment during that brief window of opportunity immediately following a workout when the body is the most receptive. By using fruits and milk along with some protien, we can accomploish that as well as dekliver the antioxidents the OP was asking about. Our bodies can only absorb a finite amount of protien per serving, the rest we just pee out.
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Bryan
Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
No recovery drink can compete with chocolate milk's taste - plus, it works as well as anything for recovery. I heard it on NPR, so it must be true :)
I also love the taste of Endurox (lemon lime) and it makes a significant difference in recovery time. The only advantage over chocolate milk is it keeps longer and is lactose free.
Here's my issue with the whole chocolate milk craze. Certainly it has a lot of good nutrients but depending on how you make it "chocalte" can also have a lot of simple sugars. I just can't help but think that a milk, fruit, protien powder combo provides much more ecovery bang for the buck.
Thoughts?
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Bryan
Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
Here's my issue with the whole chocolate milk craze. Certainly it has a lot of good nutrients but depending on how you make it "chocalte" can also have a lot of simple sugars. I just can't help but think that a milk, fruit, protien powder combo provides much more ecovery bang for the buck.
Thoughts?
I don't know the answer, but it's a good question.
Is your concern about simple sugars in choc. milk vs. fruit sugars the difference on the glycemic index (which could vary based on the type and amount of fruit or chocolate milk mix you use), or is it something else? (A related question: Does position on the glycemic index matter for recovery drinks?)
I currently switch between Accelrade and Ovaltine for recovery drinks, but I'm willing to be persuaded if fruit smoothies are a whole lot better.
Here's my issue with the whole chocolate milk craze. Certainly it has a lot of good nutrients but depending on how you make it "chocalte" can also have a lot of simple sugars. I just can't help but think that a milk, fruit, protien powder combo provides much more ecovery bang for the buck.
Thoughts?
That's a good point - I can't say I'm excited about all that high fructose corn syrup, but still - what convenience store will sell you a ready-to-drink milk/fruit/protein smoothie (that tastes truly delicious) for $1.29? A smoothie would be ideal, but I'm lazy - convenience is huge for me :)
(A related question: Does position on the glycemic index matter for recovery drinks?)
It would appear that it does matter - according to glycemicindex.com - "High GI carbs help re-fuel carbohydrate stores after exercise"
I don't know the answer, but it's a good question.Is your concern about simple sugars in choc. milk vs. fruit sugars the difference on the glycemic index (which could vary based on the type and amount of fruit or chocolate milk mix you use), or is it something else? (A related question: Does position on the glycemic index matter for recovery drinks?)
QUOTE]Yes, it's a where do the sugars and carbohydrates come from issue that I'm curious about. Is it better to have that from a natural whole food source like fruit, or a powder like ovaltine? The whey protien powder I use also has a sugar content, so it's not that I don't have that as well, it's the price you pay for a nice vanilla flavor :).
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Bryan
Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
On the other hand, if you want your chocolate milk without the HFCS (High-fructose corn syrup), pick up a bottle of nesquik. You can get the powder to mix for the least junk (and actual cocoa powder), or the syrup. But both are still free of HFCS.
That said, their "ready-to-drink" drinks do have HFCS, so I've stayed away from them.
*Note, I'm not affiliated with Nesquik, it's just the first chocolate syrup I've found that doesn't have HFCS.
"Care more than others think is wise, risk more than others think is safe, dream more than others think is practical, expect more than others think is possible."
My gut feeling would be that a complex recovery drink made with good, non-processed nutrients is going to be better for you. Better bang for the buck...not sure. My main goal in my recovery drink is to get 100-300 calories in me immediately, with the anticipation of a regular meal later on.
That said, some days I have chocolate milk, some days I have fruit smoothies. In both cases I try to stay to the healthiest alternative (have tried straight cocoa powder in milk...doesn't quite do it for me).
"Care more than others think is wise, risk more than others think is safe, dream more than others think is practical, expect more than others think is possible."
When I'm not home after a workout, I have a Naked Protien Zone. Lot's of calories, carb protien, and electrolytes with milk and fruit juices. They are a little pricey, but pack a punch!
http://www.nakedjuice.com/sitemap.html
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Bryan
Of course it's 'effing hard, it's IRONMAN!
Very interesting topic.
I have to say that I love the taste of both...
Now PowerBar put out in the market a new chocolate shake for recovery, really tasty...I love it...
Now I will never be able to stay away from a good refreshing fruit shake, with lots of berries(the fruit of champions), banana...and I make a mix of Gatorade powder, and and whey protein....I have been using that for a while now, and it does wonders for my recovery...
I completely agree with Red5, the main goal of a recovery drink is to restore glucose levels and glycogen stores in the body...the protein is a plus to aid muscle tissue....
For me I do feel the difference if my recovery drink did not have protein...I can feel that my legs particulary feel better the next day if I had some protein in the mix.
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these things are all over the advertisements of the triathlon magazines. are they worth it? i'm assuming eating regular food better? the claims these ads make seem to be complete bullsht