Run Training for HIM
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Nobody posted 1 year ago.
If running <60 minutes prevents an injury that could take you out of HIM altogether, seems like you should ease back like your coach says.
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vanjames posted 1 year ago.
If you are getting injuries there may be more factors than just the time spent running. How many days a week are you running? Are your shoes kaput? Are they the right shoe? What kind of injury are you getting? Are you stretching and staying hydrated before, during and after? How is your base fitness level? Are you incorporating high intensity workouts too soon or too much?
Are you recovering?
Your coach is likely protecting you by keeping you <60min for the run components. I typically train up to the full distance in a half, maybe even a tad over but it sounds like he is taking a conservative approach due to your injuries by limiting the amount of potential injury to ensure you get to the line and give yourself the best chance of finishing. Sounds like he has your best interest in mind.
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Jstyle posted 1 year ago.
vanjames;64713 wrote:
If you are getting injuries there may be more factors than just the time spent running. How many days a week are you running? Are your shoes kaput? Are they the right shoe? What kind of injury are you getting? Are you stretching and staying hydrated before, during and after? How is your base fitness level? Are you incorporating high intensity workouts too soon or too much?
Are you recovering?Your coach is likely protecting you by keeping you <60min for the run components. I typically train up to the full distance in a half, maybe even a tad over but it sounds like he is taking a conservative approach due to your injuries by limiting the amount of potential injury to ensure you get to the line and give yourself the best chance of finishing. Sounds like he has your best interest in mind.
Ditto you coach is trying to watch your back. For a HIM the iron is a big deal and everything don't get my wrong but an hour should work as far as training goes. What is your Half Mary time anyways???
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solidad posted 1 year ago.
MY HIM training plan had me pushing up to 2 hours at the end of the base period which for me was a few miles over the full HIM distance. Now in the build phase the time has come down and the intensity has come up. Every other week or so, the plan has the long bike come down a bit and the run back up to 1:30 to 2hours. I also have a Brick on the weekend as well that is never more than a 30 minute of the bike run.
As was said above, I would say keep healthy first before worriing about miles, a little less training is better than an injury come race day.
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Flip12 posted 1 year ago.
Have since heard back form my coach and he said that I will be going into the half a little underdone due to lack of time for preparation. (I only went to him about 9 weeks out of the race)
Think I shall try and cheat a little by sneaking in an extra run a week to bring it up to four per week, as long as the injuries stay away.
20km time was 1hr 40. Doint that off the bike will be interesting and I don't think I will make it anywhere near that time. Will be happy to do it in 2hours on the day.
Injuries are shin splints and some ankle injury from overuse. Have got new shoes that were fitted properly and try to run on treadmill, grass or at the beach at all times. Haven't had the ankle problem for a while but shin splints are still a little painful. Have been doing lots of stretching to help them too.
Thanks for the advice and hope that answered anyones questions.
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christri25 posted 1 year ago.
do something like a long brick workout. 20b / 5r / 30b / 6r that will get you ready for the run ;) i did that one a couple times before my HIM's
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Jstyle posted 1 year ago.
I really wouldn't sneak that extra run in... Here is the deal dude you undertrain and worst case scenario your tired and it's hard to finish. You OVERtrain and you don't make it to the start line because your injured. Trust me this comes from a guy that is only 25 and almost didn't make it to the starting line of my third marathon. More miles is not always the answer.
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catwood posted 1 year ago.
I'd say do NOT do any extra running. It is always better to be significantly undertrained yet highly motivated than the slightest bit overtrained and burnt out.
Your aerobic base that you've built from your bike and swim training will get you through the run during the race no problem. Trust me. I know this was not super smart of me but yesterday I ran 15 miles. In the past year, my longest run has been 6.2 (from oly), but my aerobic base got me through the whole thing easily at a conversational pace. No pain this morning except for a couple of blisters - wear socks when you go that long.
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fittycent posted 1 year ago.
Flip12;64783 wrote:
Think I shall try and cheat a little by sneaking in an extra run a week to bring it up to four per week, as long as the injuries stay away.
I agree with the others - don't do an extra run. I've tried that before and regretted it. If you can't resist doing an extra run, at least be honest about it and tell your coach.
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solidad posted 1 year ago.
catwood;64818 wrote:
Your aerobic base that you've built from your bike and swim training will get you through the run during the race no problem.
I totally agree, if you feel you need to add something, maybe lengthen your long bike or add a bike to push the base, I would not risk it with an extra run if it feels forced.
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AdventureBear posted 1 year ago.
Flip12;64783 wrote:
Have since heard back form my coach and he said that I will be going into the half a little underdone due to lack of time for preparation. (I only went to him about 9 weeks out of the race)Think I shall try and cheat a little by sneaking in an extra run a week to bring it up to four per week, as long as the injuries stay away.
Aren't you paying this guy to design a training plan for you? Adding a 4th run per week is as good a way to get injured as increasing the length of the long run.
Discuss your concerns with your coach, and at least get his opinion. Maybe he can modify things for you.
Like everyone has said, it's better to be undertrained than to be injured. It's better to be 95% trained than 105% trained.
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Just wondering if anyone could tell me how long you would recommend the long run to be if training for a HIM? Have heard that 2 hours about 3 weeks out is enough but my programme says only 60 minutes which has me beginning to worry a little.
I have previously done runs of 20km but ended up with injuries each time so I assume this is why the coach has limited me to 60 minute runs. Any advice anyone?