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started by Dan Smith on March 11, 2007

I live in the Seattle area so we get a fair number of rainy days. I would like to do my bike training indoors on bad weather days. (It is raining as I write this).

So, here is my question: What gives the best cycling workout, a spinning bike, a stationary bike, or a trainer that you put your own bike on? Is there a huge difference? My club is kind of expensive so I feel like I should just use the equipment there since I am already paying for it.

If a trainer is far superior to a stationary bike, what type of trainer is best? Magnetic, fluid, or wind?

Thanks,

Dan

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mdd posted 1 year ago.

You need two things. First a Cycleops 2 Fluid trainer for your longer rides and then a set of rollers for skill work. Once you have that, you will be unstoppable on the bike no matter the weather and will be MUCH cheaper than a gym in the long run.

Good luck!

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vanjames posted 1 year ago.

I feel your pain. I live up the Coast from you and we're getting the wrath of teh pineapple as well. I have a trainer and use it rarely - actually prefer to go to the gym and use the spinning bike.

There are so many costs already associated with the sport that I would go to your gym and hit the spin bike. They can be adjusted so they feel as close to a road/tt bike as possible. Get a HRM and spin. Varying resistance /standing/spinning etc will give you some great mock hills/tt etc.

It can be mentally taxing which in my opinion is the positive of indoor training - I did 4hrs yesterday on the spin bike then a treadmill run for 45mins. No problem adding the balance of time when scenery is there to distract and enhance the ride.

You can always get a trainer later but I bougt one my first year and have used it less than 10 times. Usually I get outside in rain but just not the pineapple express rain.

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tri-ac posted 1 year ago.

i use the trainer once a week. it's good for the dark early morning when it's wet (and no commute time to boot!)

go fluid for the trainer

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Triguy98 posted 1 year ago.

mdd;64044 wrote:
You need two things. First a Cycleops 2 Fluid trainer for your longer rides and then a set of rollers for skill work. Once you have that, you will be unstoppable on the bike no matter the weather and will be MUCH cheaper than a gym in the long run.

Good luck!

I second this advice. Both are very useful and have their own benefits. Rollers can be had for $100 and a decent trainer for $200 or less. I've heard good things about the Performance brand trainers and will likely be going for one of those.

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RV posted 1 year ago.

mdd;64044 wrote:
You need two things. First a Cycleops 2 Fluid trainer for your longer rides and then a set of rollers for skill work. Once you have that, you will be unstoppable on the bike no matter the weather and will be MUCH cheaper than a gym in the long run.

Good luck!

This is the setup I use. Great approach.

RV

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PJT posted 1 year ago.

mdd;64044 wrote:
You need two things. First a Cycleops 2 Fluid trainer for your longer rides and then a set of rollers for skill work. Once you have that, you will be unstoppable on the bike no matter the weather and will be MUCH cheaper than a gym in the long run.

Good luck!

Similar setup for me, though I use a Kurt Kinetic fluid versus a CycleOps.

Rollers are surprisingly fun--much less boredom than on the trainer. Even getting a drink from your bottle cage can be an adventure.

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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.

I prefer my trainer (CycleOps fluid) over the bikes at the gym. My bike is fit to me, and the bikes at the gym aren't, I always feel like I'm getting not quite the right angle for my hips or knees on the gym bikes, and the saddles don't always fit right, I'm just not nearly as comfortable. I like having the trainer because I don't have to leave the house. I set up a DVD player so I can watch something while I'm riding. My husband and I are working our way through the second season of 24 right now on our indoor workouts.

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trainDaBrain posted 1 year ago.

If you can get a power option with the Cycleops fluid trainer, you should do it. That is if you want to train at home. The convenience and time savings of riding when you want vs packing up your gear and heading to the gym to do the same thing might be the winning argument for me.

I was in downtown Seattle last November and was amazed at the number of people who bike commute in adverse weather conditions - hard core! So that's always an option ;)

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kkocan posted 1 year ago.

Ironmom;64104 wrote:
I prefer my trainer (CycleOps fluid) over the bikes at the gym. My bike is fit to me, and the bikes at the gym aren't, I always feel like I'm getting not quite the right angle for my hips or knees on the gym bikes, and the saddles don't always fit right, I'm just not nearly as comfortable. I like having the trainer because I don't have to leave the house. I set up a DVD player so I can watch something while I'm riding. My husband and I are working our way through the second season of 24 right now on our indoor workouts.

I second that. I cannot get comfy on the bikes, Lemond Spinning Bikes, at our gym. Can't get the seat far enough forward nor does the seat ever feel right. I think also I get a much better workout on my resitance trainer. Doing one legged drills on a spinning bike is easy as they have a 40+ pound flyweight carrying momentum. Doing it on the trainer it's a lot harder to keep a smooth rotation.

I do however hit the spinning bikes once evey other week or if the weather is bad and I have a transition run and need to use a treadmill I use them, but I just can't quite get into the sweet spot on them. Go with a rear wheel trainer and you can use it year round. I know some people even advise on a trainer ride once a week as it gives you an excellent workout even during nice weather.

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

Rollers are a must.
Fluid trainer a must,must.
Recently, I made some upgrades to the bike and decided to get a good fit...Was fit by a Serotta Certified fitter (road bike)
While he was measuring my watts, looking for the position that provided optimal output, he commented on my fluid pedal style...
"Rollers" I said..."Nuff said" he replied.
The more fluid and effecient your pedal stroke...the better your ability to hold a line...the less energy you waste.
You learn that on the rollers.

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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.

Anton;64121 wrote:

The more fluid and effecient your pedal stroke...the better your ability to hold a line...the less energy you waste.
You learn that on the rollers.

Not arguing with you there. For those of us without rollers (for me right now, it would be a combo of enough $$$ and space so I don't have them), I do drills by riding down the white line on the side of the road. Once you try this, you realize how hard it is to hold a really good line. I'm sure rollers help with this immensely, but this is another way I tackle that one.

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Triguy98 posted 1 year ago.

Rollers can be had for $100 and fold up in half for storage- just a little bigger than a trainer in size.

Riding the white line is ok- but the only way to get even close to the efficiency you obtain with rollers is LOTS of one legged drills and spin ups. Even then, you will learn a lot from 15 minutes on rollers.

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trainDaBrain posted 1 year ago.

I used to ride a set of rollers and it helped line and balance work immensely. Unfortunately, they were old and the noise level was too much. It was also hard for me to stay on it more than 45 at a time - serious zen training. With the stationary I could read, flip channels, and focus on more than just my front wheel :)

Could be my ADD, but I am happy with the stationary. You can also do one-legged training which is also great for developing a smooth pedaling technique as legs will be forced to learn the entire pedal stroke. A stationary trainer is about the safest means of accomplishing this.

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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.

Triguy98;64124 wrote:
Rollers can be had for $100 and fold up in half for storage- just a little bigger than a trainer in size.

Hey, I'd totally love them, but $100 is entry fee for two races, and I can usually only budget for about 4 or 5 races per season (when you count in travel, etc.). Back in the old (DINK) days (read: before we decided to become a one-income family of four) I could have any old tri toy I wanted. Just not so anymore!

I do have a friend with some rollers though and I think I'm going to ask him if he would let me borrow them for awhile (I don't think he's been using them lately). It sounds from what everyone's saying like it would be worth it to get on them, even for just a few times.

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Triguy98 posted 1 year ago.

Wait, you can get into TWO races for $100?! Dang!

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Great Greyhound posted 1 year ago.

The rollers are great for learning to hold your line, balance, and working on keeping the upper body still. Of course, it is hard to do much else, like one leg drills, etc.

I ride three times a week on the rollers during the winter months, once a week, I put the front wheel bridge on the rollers, that holds the front fork in place, and this allows me to really hammer on the rollers for 60-90 minutes without worrying about balancing.

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

Double G! That's cheating! ;)
Where did you get your front wheel bridge..oh,not that I want one ,mind you, just curious.....

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wirebook posted 1 year ago.

Is a fluid trainer any different than what's included in the Computrainer?