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Anton posted 1 year ago.
You are right...it's really simple.
I can't say it any better than Friel...(just re-read "Going Long" last weekend)
"Although extensive use of bilateral breathing is recommended for training,breathing every cycle is recommended for racing."
Becoming an efficient swimmer is not about getting faster, it's about becoming more efficient and expending less energy...If done right...increased speed often follows. Less energy used in the swim means more energy for the bike and run...
As to the Red Bull...I heard he uses it on the bike...but who knows? Newby-Frasier used to put Twixt in her Met-RX wrappers to satisify her sponsers.
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RV posted 1 year ago.
JohnieTri;62161 wrote:
swear right at the beginning of the segment, when the swimmers start, an underwater photographer takes video and one of the swimmers has on fins!:eek:
Just a few things I thought were interesting.
Hopefully that was a support person, life guard or something and not a competitor!
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Tikal Dog posted 1 year ago.
RV;62171 wrote:
Hopefully that was a support person, life guard or something and not a competitor!
MUST have been!!:)
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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.
I breathe every other stroke in a race, always have. You just have to make sure you can swim straight while doing that, instead of swimming with an eventual turn to one side. For me, a bad arm/shoulder injury to my left side as a teenager left me unable to easily breathe to the left side, so it's more of a necessity than a choice, but it doesn't seem to hamper my speed any.
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Triguy98 posted 1 year ago.
It wouldnt surprise me to see him drinking a Red Bull, especially if it was defizzed. I dont touch the stuff, but if you need a pick me up or just an intake of something to keep you from flatlining, I can see where Red Bull might be useful.
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Red5 posted 1 year ago.
Not only do they often breath every stroke but if you watch the underwater shots, they don't aggressively swim with a front quadrant style that is so often preached. Frequently their pull arm is well into the pull when the other hand enters the water. Ultimatley, it's all about going as fast as your physiology allows the most efficiently without prohibitive energy expenditure.
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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.
Red5;62247 wrote:
Not only do they often breath every stroke but if you watch the underwater shots, they don't aggressively swim with a front quadrant style that is so often preached. Frequently their pull arm is well into the pull when the other hand enters the water. Ultimatley, it's all about going as fast as your physiology allows the most efficiently without prohibitive energy expenditure.
A couple of thoughts on this:
1) In rough water, front quadrant swimming becomes less efficient because you don't really get as much glide. While my stroke is very front-quadrant in a pool, it is somewhat less so in a triathlon, and probably much less so in rough water. I've done two tris in extremely rough water and was surprised both times by how sore my arms were - not much gliding, a lot more stroking. If you're watching an open ocean swim on TV, you're going to see a less front-quadrant stroke than these swimmers will have in a pool, but that doesn't mean that front-quadrant isn't the way to go.
2) Front quadrant doesn't mean you hang your pulling arm out there forever. You will start to pull before your other hand enters the water, it's just still somewhere in that front quadrant as your other hand enters the water. At some point, if you accentuate the pull too long, you lose speed and efficiency. Good front quadrant swimming is about finding the place where you get the most glide before your speed begins to bleed off.
Bottom line: I haven't yet seen someone who didn't ultimately benefit from moving their stroke into the front quadrant. Without that, it's hard to get enough glide and the stroke expends too much energy. It's always been a net gain to FQS in my experience. Just my .02.
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solidad posted 1 year ago.
I thought I read that breathing every stroke helps keep the heart rate down versus the potential glide benefit of every other stroke. The ideal for Tris is to save it for the bike and run where differences in time can be much more extreme. I also don't do flip turns during really long swims as the holding the breath breaks the rhythm and elevates the heart rate.
Can someone re-send the link -- I could not find it?
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Jstyle posted 1 year ago.
Does any one here do flip turns on 3000+ swims?
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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.
Jstyle;62271 wrote:
Does any one here do flip turns on 3000+ swims?
Yep I always flip. Done right, a flip doesn't impact breathing all that much. Many people lose momentum on flip turns though, instead of gaining it. They're not hard to do, just hard to do right.
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This past weekend I watched the NBC taped episodes of Ironman Hawaii from 2005 and 2006. Here are some interesting things I saw:
1) From the 2005 episode, the cameras were briefly following Al Sultan on the swim, close to a turnaround bouy I think, and I noticed that he was breathing every stroke(i.e. that is every time his left arm came out of the water) This was interesting to me just because often there are questions about what is the most effective way to breathe-every 2 strokes, alternating side, etc. Just thought it was cool to see the eventual winner swimming this way.
2) From the 2006 race, I swear I saw him(Al Sultan) drinking a Red Bull on the bike.:confused:
#0 Go to the following youtube site and watch the Julie Moss segment : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NzMTLMJwao-I swear right at the beginning of the segment, when the swimmers start, an underwater photographer takes video and one of the swimmers has on fins!:eek:
Just a few things I thought were interesting.
-Johnie