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6 months on.....HR still high!?!?

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started by lloydte on December 18, 2006

Ok guys

I dont know if any of you remember, but about 6 months ago I posted a thread saying basically, I think using a heart rate monitor sucks because as soon as I get exercising it shoots up and hence means that all the "ranges" for different training zones are completely out the window.

The response I had was, your unfit, it will come down with time....stick to the ranges even if it means walking. Right, its 6 months down the line, I am definately fit....I'm not superman but some idea would be that I could do a 3hr 30min marathon and my resting HR is about 48-50bpm which aint bad.....

So whats the deal?? Do I use HRM's or do I just say ok...it don't work for me and monitor my training by percieved effort??

To be honest I'm a bit clueless, I've done one ironman using my HRM as a stopwatch.....I'm doing the french ironman in june and was really hoping that the initial comments that were posted would hold true and my heart rate would now stay within the zones...this clearly isn't the case.

I'm open to suggestions/tips as I aim to get to a sub 11hr IM in june...hopefully with the HRM.....

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vanjames posted 1 year ago.

Get a VO2max/Lactate test and have your zones created from that. It may be that you are able to exert yourself aerobically at higher heart rates. The test is one way to know for sure. Check this place out it may be near you in Cardiff.

http://www.elitefitness.co.uk/Performance/Testing/tabid/77/Default.aspx

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bluebirdbiker posted 1 year ago.

If a lab test is not what you want, go do a max HR test on a treadmill and from that set your zones. We all have different HRmax levels. But without that known much is a crapshoot as to what your zones are.

Calc. of HRmax. on a treadmill

1) Start in your easy pace, the speed at which you can converse well at.. Run 10 min warm up. Take a couple min. and lightly stretch if needed.

2) Then start by running 2-3 minutes at an easy pace. Start increasing the pace about 10-15 sec. per mile every minute.

3) After the first 30 seconds, start another 1 min. cycle by increasing the grade 0.5% of the treadmill, so every other 30 seconds, you are either increasing pace or grade.

4) Continue this until you literally have to step off the treadmill because of exhaustion.

5) Take 3-5 min. to lightly stretch and repeat. Take the higher of the 2 numbers. This should be your HRmax.

But I have to agree w Vanjames. The lab test is the best.

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kona_expat posted 1 year ago.

Easy Max. HR test: Go run a 5K. Leave the HRM running. Get the highest recorded number. Done.

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I du tri posted 1 year ago.

How long are you keeping the HR monitor on when this happens? It is common for heart rates to spike suddenly at random times due to stress(starting the workout), caffeine(drinking any beforehand- can keep HR elevated for 1 hour or more), enhanced automaticity, etc. I have started out myself and my HR shot up to 206 bpm. It went back down after about 10 sec- 1 minute. Or it has happened in the middle of my workouts randomly. For those short durations, it won't throw off your ranges much at all.

You may want to try warming up first by perceived exertion and then turn the HR monitor on.

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

Kona...Love your method of finding Max HR...definately from the less is better school...cool.
Sometimes HR is not a good indicator of fitness...not everyone has a perfect heart or perfect physiology. RPE is better for some.
Play with your rates and zones using some of the methods shown explained above. See your Dr. and get a simple EKG to rule out and heart anomolies that may prevent a good reading.
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kona_expat posted 1 year ago.

I du tri;58679 wrote:
How long are you keeping the HR monitor on when this happens? It is common for heart rates to spike suddenly at random times due to stress(starting the workout), caffeine(drinking any beforehand- can keep HR elevated for 1 hour or more), enhanced automaticity, etc. I have started out myself and my HR shot up to 206 bpm. It went back down after about 10 sec- 1 minute. Or it has happened in the middle of my workouts randomly. For those short durations, it won't throw off your ranges much at all.

You may want to try warming up first by perceived exertion and then turn the HR monitor on.

Also, some HRM's respond to electrical interference. When I run by certain power lines, the HRM goes nuts. Also sometimes happens indoors on the treadmill--the number will get "stuck" in a range that I know I'm not in (because I'd be dead if that was my actual HR!).

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lloydte posted 1 year ago.

thanks for the info guys....my Max HR comes out at 203bpm....think i might just go get the lab tests done...

Cheers

Tim