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started by Homebrewermike on December 13, 2006

I didn't want to hijack the headphone debate (http://www.trifuel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7220) so I though I'd start another instead.

People argue that wearing headphones on a bike is unsafe because you can't hear the traffic. I personnally choose to wear them and can definitely hear the traffic well enough. But regardless of whether you're wearing headphones or not it probably won't help you if say you're cruising along into a stiff wind and you can't hear the vehicle approaching you from behind, headphones or not, until it's passing you. Now let's say that person is on the cell, distracted, and heading your way. Thus you can't see or hear them until you wake up in the ER or worst. This happened in Wisconsin last summer.

This is why I believe that wearing a mirror is one of the safest things you can do while riding. Only by seeing the vehicle will you have a change of avoiding not getting hit from behind.

So I'm curious. How many of you wear some kind of mirror? I wear a mirror that sticks to the inside of my Oakley glasses.

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thebeatcatcher posted 1 year ago.

Homebrewermike;58408 wrote:

So I'm curious. How many of you wear some kind of mirror? I wear a mirror that sticks to the inside of my Oakley glasses.

i'd be interested to see a link to your mirror. is it sunglasses brand specific, i.e. works only with your oakley model? or is it universal?

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Homebrewermike posted 1 year ago.

thebeatcatcher;58410 wrote:
i'd be interested to see a link to your mirror. is it sunglasses brand specific, i.e. works only with your oakley model? or is it universal?

http://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.asp?id=8573 is one source. I got mine at REI but they no longer carry them. They take a little getting used to but once you do they have a huge field of vision. I think they would work best on wrap arounds.

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thebeatcatcher posted 1 year ago.

looks pretty nifty and inconspicuous. thanks for the link!

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jmruns430 posted 1 year ago.

What type of adhesive do they use? Would you be able to take it off without hurting your lenses?
This looks neat, thanks for sharing.

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Homebrewermike posted 1 year ago.

jmruns430;58452 wrote:
What type of adhesive do they use? Would you be able to take it off without hurting your lenses?
This looks neat, thanks for sharing.
It's not a permanent adhesive. I have transfered it between lenses. I'm assuming that if your lenses are dirt and grease free you'll be able to move them several times. I do wash my lenses all the time and it doesn't affect the adhesive. But the way, mine came with two mirrors. I think you're supposed to put them on both sides. But I just put one on the left for biking and keep the other as a spare. So far I'm on my second year with the first mirror.

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Tikal Dog posted 1 year ago.

Wow!!! this is cool.

I do most of my riding in a trafic controled area. A very large private contry club with roads inside (which gets boring if you have realy long rides) but this is a great gizmo!!! or at least sounds great.

And you have a point with the headwind. It totally blocks everything. Is louder than a hedphone!

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Cashmason posted 1 year ago.

Hmm the picture you had last week is gone, and the cambria website doesnt show a stick on mirror.

Anyone else carry it?

Who makes it?

Thanks,

Cash

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

Oh...I'm staying out of this..debate!

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Homebrewermike posted 1 year ago.

http://www.bicycletires.com/tek9.asp?pg=products&specific=jppompe0

http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/ACMIRR/MI2032

http://shop.airbomb.com/page.cfm?PageID=37&action=list&Category=47&Brand=91&type=T

http://brandscycle.com/itemdetails.cfm?catalogId=39&id=4632

http://jimlangley.com/page.cfm?PageID=48

The last link is to some guys review. I agree with what he says. BTW I went to the cycleaware.com web site and it is no longer active. This leads me to believe that you may need to act quickly or these mirrors may no longer be available.

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Triguy98 posted 1 year ago.

One could argue that the majority of car/ bike accidents are more the fault of a drivers eradict movements or not seeing the cyclist and that rear on collisions are few and far between. Cut offs are liekly the most common occurance and a mirror wont prevent that.

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Homebrewermike posted 1 year ago.

Triguy98;59319 wrote:
One could argue that the majority of car/ bike accidents are more the fault of a drivers eradict movements or not seeing the cyclist and that rear on collisions are few and far between. Cut offs are liekly the most common occurance and a mirror wont prevent that.

According the the federal highway administration crashes can be divided into the following groupings:

http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/ped_bike/univcourse/swless04.htm

Parallel-path events 36 percent
Crossing-path events 57 percent
Specific circumstances 7 percent

The most frequent parallel-path crashes were motorist turn/merge into bicyclist's path (12.2 percent), motorist overtaking the bicyclist (8.6 percent), and bicyclist turn/merge into motorist's path (7.3 percent).

36% does not seem so far and few between to me.

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kylie posted 1 year ago.

I'm curious if there are people out there who won't wear a mirror and what some counter-arguments would be. I've never heard a reason other than how it looks for it.

(No, I don't wear one... but not because I decided not to but because I've never tried it).

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Triguy98 posted 1 year ago.

Homebrewermike;59333 wrote:

The most frequent parallel-path crashes were motorist turn/merge into bicyclist's path (12.2 percent), motorist overtaking the bicyclist (8.6 percent), and bicyclist turn/merge into motorist's path (7.3 percent).

36% does not seem so far and few between to me.

Actually, I would think that 20.8% would be more in my camp- those are not direct rear end impacts in which the driver solidly hits the rider, instead they are impacts in which the car is coming from the side of the cyclist, in which case the rider should be aware of the care anyway. Simple rider awareness and defensive riding is the key to avoideding those parallel and cross path crashes.

The 7.3 percent is where the mirror is more relevant, as the cyclist did not check behind them or just swereved into the path of the car.

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Homebrewermike posted 1 year ago.

Just like every issue they're will always be two camps. seatbelts vs. no seatbelt; helmets vs. no helmet. mirrors, etc, etc.

On a side mirror note. Wouldn't it be cool if someone developed a mirror device that would allow you to look down at the pavement and still see forward. Something that could invert the image and allow you to get really aero. Sure would help out that aching neck. I wonder if it would be legal?

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RV posted 1 year ago.

Homebrewermike;59422 wrote:
... Wouldn't it be cool if someone developed a mirror device that would allow you to look down at the pavement and still see forward. Something that could invert the image and allow you to get really aero. Sure would help out that aching neck. I wonder if it would be legal?

I'm waiting for someone to incorporate a heads-up display into some sunglasses - so you could see speed, cadence, HR etc w/o having to look down!

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fittycent posted 1 year ago.

Just a quick note about these mirrors. Some stores advertise they'll sell you a pair of mirrors and others sell individual mirrors. I bought "a pair" from ebikestop.com and they only sent me one. When I complained to customer service, they essentially said, "Sorry about the confusion, but it's our supplier's fault. We'll send you another with free shipping, but you still have to pay for it.":mad:

I noticed in the above links that some stores sell in "pairs" and others just sell them as singles.

So, just make sure they're really going to send you two if you pay for two!

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Homebrewermike posted 1 year ago.

fittycent;59429 wrote:
Just a quick note about these mirrors. Some stores advertise they'll sell you a pair of mirrors and others sell individual mirrors. I bought "a pair" from ebikestop.com and they only sent me one. When I complained to customer service, they essentially said, "Sorry about the confusion, but it's our supplier's fault. We'll send you another with free shipping, but you still have to pay for it.":mad:

I noticed in the above links that some stores sell in "pairs" and others just sell them as singles.

So, just make sure they're really going to send you two if you pay for two!

Sorry! Don't blame the messenger. I got mine through REI and was suprised that the box included 2. I have yet to use the second one.

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BigGus posted 1 year ago.

kyillee;59343 wrote:
I'm curious if there are people out there who won't wear a mirror and what some counter-arguments would be. I've never heard a reason other than how it looks for it.

(No, I don't wear one... but not because I decided not to but because I've never tried it).

This isn't so much a counter argument, but I can say I tried one and it just didn't work for me. I wish it did because it is a great safety tool. I couldn't use it because my left shoulder blocked the view even after several attempts at adjusting it. It was also strange with it so close to my eye, focusing close in the mirror then far on the road, etc. I just didn't like it.