Can Ice Be Bad?
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beads1985 posted 1 year ago.
Most of the time for normal wear and tear and smaller injuries icing for the first 48 hours is recommended and then you can follow that with heat.
For more extensive injuries or surgery you can be icing for several weeks.:eek:
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alowrun posted 1 year ago.
Okay, just took an ice bath-hoping that was the right thing to do, it sure felt good.d
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Red5 posted 1 year ago.
In lieu of an ice bath, follwoing workouts I sit in my pool for 15 min. The water temp is in the low 60's, or about 18 celsius. they say 12-15 celsius is ideal and I'm sure the pool will be that cold in another few weeks. Feels great....about an hour after ;)
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Riverbrady posted 1 year ago.
Also keep your time between 15-20 minutes. It's been shown that >20 minutes of ice can actually hamper things.
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Red5 posted 1 year ago.
Riverbrady;57274 wrote:
Also keep your time between 15-20 minutes. It's been shown that >20 minutes of ice can actually hamper things.
Very true, I only stay in 15 min.
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solidad posted 1 year ago.
Red5;57241 wrote:
In lieu of an ice bath, follwoing workouts I sit in my pool for 15 min. The water temp is in the low 60's, or about 18 celsius. they say 12-15 celsius is ideal and I'm sure the pool will be that cold in another few weeks. Feels great....about an hour after ;)
Would this not be counter to warmth after a workout to increase blood-flow and facilitate muscle recovery?
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Riverbrady posted 1 year ago.
Ice baths are supposed to reduce intra-muscular fluids, swelling, and inflamation, and close down capillaries, along with reducing post-exercise soreness and delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS). The cold from the ice causes your blood vessels to constrict, which signals to your body that you need more blood in the area, prompting your body to force more blood into the region. The rapid and sudden transmission circulation flushes the toxins from your system.
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kylie posted 1 year ago.
From runnersweb.com:
"Take an ice bath - from your hips down - after every hard workout, long run or race. This will reduce intra-muscular fluids and swelling and close down capillaries. It also reduces post-exercise soreness and eliminates delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS)."
And from what my chiropractor told me... for the first 10-15ish minutes (or 20, depending on who you talk to) when your body is cold it tries to heat itself. More blood comes to the area to help warm it -- so for the period of time it is bring more blood like solidad was asking about. After that time window, the body decides it can't fix the problem and will lower the blood flow to keep the damaged area to a minimum as it thinks that body part is lost to the cold.
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kylie posted 1 year ago.
hahaha... Jeremy you stole from the same source I did... at least I gave my net skillz credit though! :)
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Riverbrady posted 1 year ago.
Also note that you want your bath about 54-60 degrees fahrenheit. Too close to feezing doesn't help much and can actually do damage (another reason why you should ice massage or put something between an ice pack and your skin if you're using stationary packs).
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solidad posted 1 year ago.
I had no idea! So 54 to 60 degrees within 15 minutes of the workout. But only for 10 minites or so???
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beads1985 posted 1 year ago.
After I finish a tri I usually go into the water I swam in up to my waist for 10-20 minutes.
When I get home I do my vertical ice bath in a garbage can.:D
Nothing to it, but to do it
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kylie posted 1 year ago.
solidad;57360 wrote:
I had no idea! So 54 to 60 degrees within 15 minutes of the workout. But only for 10 minites or so???
I'm not sure on the how sooon after a workout... but yeah, 10-15ish minutes should be good. I actually started craving these in the summer. I'd look forward to it my whole (hott!) run. Not so much in the winter, but luckily I'm not doing as long of runs now so don't need them as much ;)
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Red5 posted 1 year ago.
solidad;57360 wrote:
I had no idea! So 54 to 60 degrees within 15 minutes of the workout. But only for 10 minites or so???
That's all about right. My pool is now dwon to low 60's. :D
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solidad posted 1 year ago.
Not to be too graphic, but when iut says submerge to the hips that means certain body parts go a long with it? does it make a huge difference? I've been a cyclist foor years but real long distance running is new to me, and I do have more soreness and pain afterwards...
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Red5 posted 1 year ago.
All the boys go in the pool!!!! Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!
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beads1985 posted 1 year ago.
solidad;57473 wrote:
Not to be too graphic, but when iut says submerge to the hips that means certain body parts go a long with it? does it make a huge difference? I've been a cyclist foor years but real long distance running is new to me, and I do have more soreness and pain afterwards...
Red5;57474 wrote:
All the boys go in the pool!!!! Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!
Okay,
If I go into the water where I swam I will go in up to my chest.
(my back gets a little sore so this helps)
When I do an "Ice Bath" I have a new, clean heavy duty garbage can dedicated for this purpose. I put 3-4 bags of ice in and fill the rest with water. When I step in, I am almost up to my crotch.
I keep "the boys'' out of the water.
After an event I am mostly feeling soreness up to my thighs and not really feeling soreness in my glutes or hips.
Nothing to it, but to do it
Just wondering about the RICE theory (rest ice compression elevate)
Is there ever a point in the healing process of an injury, where applying ice is discouraged?
I found that placing ice on my injury now, (6 days after it was sustained) brings the most relief, as I had not previously iced it…just rested it completely for two days and did some cycling.
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