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What if you CAN'T run?

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started by ggalvao on November 21, 2006

Yesterday it was my first run after 4 months of physiotherapy because of my broken arm...

Guess what!? I CAN'T run!!! I was walking with a HR of 120 and as soon as I began walking my HR rose to 170! Then I tried running slower and managed to get my HR down to 155... but the problem is... running slowly like that is actually SLOWER THAN FAST WALKING! Then I slowed down and walked till my HR came down to 144 then started running again but in a matter os 30 seconds it came back to 172! I made this about 5 times but my HR was always peaking very quickly...

Now what should I do? Run at LT till it gets OKAY or should I just walk the whole 'training'? I don't really feel like it is a training session if I walk the whole damn thing :( it really made me sad...

I guess I can run for about 30 minutes at 172 bpm, should I do it and then start my base training? Because I can RUN at high HR but can't base train at that HR!

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mdd posted 1 year ago.

swim swim swim swim

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UFTriGator posted 1 year ago.

That's a pretty crazy high HR for not running hard. Maybe this is something that you should talk to a doctor about. You can never be too careful when it comes to your health! Like anything else, though, I'm sure it will get easier as you go.

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VTIRON posted 1 year ago.

Your heart rate was high but how did it feel? Was the perceived effort at 170+BPM ?

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dr_rios_ec posted 1 year ago.

If I can´t run...I would die...
Not seriously...
I now my friend that this particular high HR is distressing and discouraging, remember that you were healing an injury...and no matter what you were, pretty much inactive for a period of time.
You need to take one step at the time, easy, and day by day.
I would like to know what is your current resting heart rate...I mean at the time you wake up in the morning?
Try to get also your aerobic base back with the other two disciplines. As UFTriGator mentioned, talk to your primary care doc just to make sure and rule out other things...to review if you are taking any medications, and so on...
Don´t panic, might be rough but you are a young guy and you´ll be back to normal in no time.

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cal_mag posted 1 year ago.

I have similar problems, not really from an injury, but from being overweight and just getting back into running.

I can bike for 3 hours at 16 mph with an avg rate of 164
Resting HR is about 68 (a little high but I am 50 lbs overweight)
Max 178
When I run slow 6mph my HR is 170-177 and I practically have to walk 4mph to get down to 150s. I did 2 miles yesterday and averaged 169 at a slow 6 mph.

I used to run 6 minute miles, but that was before asthma and 2 bad knees slowed me down.

I am going to keep doing my 2 miles runs and add more swimming to build my base

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catwood posted 1 year ago.

I'd say its ok. Work on your base using the other 2 disciplines and just start out slow, short, and regularly but infrequently and you will find that in a few weeks you'll be able to run at a lower HR. Try say 20 min slow every 3 days at first or something like that. Since you haven't been running and aren't in good shape, don't glue yourself to the HRM at first. Just go by perceived effort on running for a few weeks while your body adjusts to training again... I'd say its normal to have a higher HR after time off. Be patient, don't panic.

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ggalvao posted 1 year ago.

Well, I'm not overweight. In fact, I am very fit considering it only visualy. My current resting heart rate is around 60... (it used to be around 48 when I was trained). My perceived effort at 170+ running is that I could hold it for 30 minutes... not that hard... When I run hard it goes up to 185/190 and I can still feel I can hold on 185/190 for at least 15 minutes... but this was at the past

I will check a doctor...

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jmruns430 posted 1 year ago.

Your working HR zones do and will change with your fitness, and should be reevaluated with significant changes, say from inactive to suddenly trying to be active again. Not running for 4 months can make your resting HR and thus mx HR a lot higher, especially if you were fairly low to begin with (a lot of endurance athletes are). If you feel like your heart is going to jump out of your chest, see your doctor but start off easy. If it just looks higher than it feels, you may just need patience while you build back your base running fitness. 30 minutes at 170 will start to feel easier over time and eventually probably become 30 minutes at 140.

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beads1985 posted 1 year ago.

You could do a run/walk program to build up again too.

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oztrigal posted 1 year ago.

I was going to suggest the run/walk thing. It's highly recommended when getting back into running from what i've researched. But also, as others have said, for the first few weeks, ignore the heart rate monitor. Just go on how you're feeling. As you get your run fitness back it will feel easier to run the same pace, and when you check your heart rate it most likely will have come down from where you started.

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Anton posted 1 year ago.

I'm with beads on this...run /walk...
My wife just started running this year at the age of 53...using a run/walk program...she's doing great...no injuries...happy and training for the Disney Half.
It's what I use to train for ultras and Mary's...saves the 52 year old knees.

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ggalvao posted 1 year ago.

That's it... I'm going to run without the HRM now and I'll be incorporating the run/walk thing till I'm comfortable enough to run the whole thing!

Thank you for your tips, folks!