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started by alowrun on November 11, 2006

Okay-
So yesterday, I did my long run, and though getting my endurance back was hard, I was so happy after about 12 or so miles. I ended up doing 18, and felt great. Got up this morning, had breakfast, and set out on a great rided, though longer than I anticipated; 30 miles. Hadn’t ridden this distance in over a month. Came back to school this PM, did a light recovery run (3 miles max) on the trails. I am so, dead tired now. All my body feels good, besides a bad cramp in my right calf.
I am fearful, that because I was out for so long, I may be setting myself up for overtraining.
Are there any principles I should look for or things to do to expedite recovery?
I just don’t want to over-train; Been there, done that, it isn’t good.
Thanks all!

P.S. I inadvertently posted this in another's thread-sorry, you can see I'm tired!

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christri25 posted 2 years ago.

"expedite recovery?"

It is all about nutrition and rest. Pick up the maffetone book ... "The Holistic way to excpetional fitness" ...Maffetone trained Mark Allen for a while back in the day. Get a HRM as well. Its a good tool.

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trithis04 posted 2 years ago.

Try and get that protein in ASP, especially after the longer sessions.

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alowrun posted 2 years ago.

Ok cool, I own Friel's Training Bible, and have a HRM, and have my zones dialed in.
Thanks guys!

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mdd posted 2 years ago.

alowrun;56362 wrote:
I own Friel's Training Bible

That book is gold!!! I don't think you can really train to your potential without it unless you have a very extensive background in the sport.

Good luck with your training!

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christri25 posted 2 years ago.

who is friel ?

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alowrun posted 2 years ago.

Joe Friel, considered by many as the Godfather of endurance coaching (maybe Carmichael, but probably Friel).
Its a compendium of everything triathlon related, i.e. recovery, fuel, periodization of training, sample workouts, training logs.
My concern, is that today, I ran 10k at race pace, and feel good, though the leg is a bit sore. Getting in my recovery, should I do a light spin or something? Friday and Saturday were both very high volume days, and I did longer distances than I had in the last month or so.

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Anton posted 2 years ago.

Why are you doing a Race paced run the day after two high volume days? Today should have been a low key easy day recovering from high volume.
The hard/easy idea applies here. After every hard day,either volume or speed, should come an easy day.
As a reminder..Friel,Byrn,Reid et al are now recommending seperating long workouts. ..ie. Long Bike on Wednesday,long run on Saturday...Back to back long workouts have been shown to increase injury and burnout. They benefit only a few.
I've started to do it and feel much better and have a higher quality long workout than I ever did with back to backs.

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alowrun posted 2 years ago.

Mm, that does sound logical. Usually the back - to - back long workouts don't do much. I find that delayed onset muscle soreness usually kicks in on Monday or Tuesday, real bad.

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Riverbrady posted 2 years ago.

It's less the muscle soreness and more the continuious pounding that second day on an already tired and depleted system.

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mdd posted 2 years ago.

Yes Friel says to never have a major workout back to back. Also remember there is no such thing as a "Recovery Run" because your body takes a ton of pounding no matter if you are running 9 min miles or 5 min miles. If you need to recover then get in the pool or just spin. Spinning is a great way to work out muscle soreness while still getting in base work for your aerobic endurance.

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alowrun posted 2 years ago.

Yea, but coming from a running background, the "recovery run" doctrine is pretty ingrained lol.

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