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gfd posted 2 years ago.
I have followed Pete Pfitzinger's book, Advanced Marathoning, for my last few marathons and really like the programs offered. He gives you choices that vary on the volume per week that you want to train(under 55, 70, or over 70) and the amount of weeks that you want the plan to last(12,18, or 24).
He breaks the training into cycles and does a nice job of explaining why you are doing what you are doing.
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vanjames posted 2 years ago.
I am a big fan of the less is more plan on runners world. I used it to train for the Vancouver marathon in the spring and ran it injury free and achieved the time goal I set out for.
Check it out.
http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-244-255-8257-0,00.html
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alowrun posted 2 years ago.
I have read much about this plan, but I think I might love running too much to only run 3 times per week. It may be a resort though.
Thanks !
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vanjames posted 2 years ago.
Fair enough, I find it's a great plan for incorporating into a tri training program. DO you do strength work or other x-training? This type of plan allows and encourages that.
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PJT posted 2 years ago.
Check out Hal Higdon's free plans--he has 5 ability levels of plans on his website. http://www.halhigdon.com/#marathon
I used the "novice" one for my first marathon, which was fine for a "just finish" result. You seem to run more than I do, though, so one of the intermediate ones might be good. These plans are mostly 18-week ones, so you'll have to jump in in the middle.
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alowrun posted 2 years ago.
Yup-- I used Hidgon in the past, Novice for my first Boston. I finished fine. Felt good.
I like the idea of two 20-milers (one 3 weeks out, one six weeks out) on the Runner's World Plan. With that and t he active release I'm undergoing (see Health/Nutrition Forum), I might be able to conquer Disney World!
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blazindave posted 2 years ago.
Would it make sense to run 10km 3 times a week, and after a month increase by 5km? then do 15km, 3 times a week for another month, then increase by 5 km again. and over and over and over ad nauseum?
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alowrun posted 2 years ago.
No, I dont think so. But I think that if you were careful planning the long runs around medium intensity week runs, you might be okay.
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blazindave posted 2 years ago.
alowrun;55660 wrote:
No, I dont think so. But I think that if you were careful planning the long runs around medium intensity week runs, you might be okay.
Was that directed towards me?
I want a plan that doesnt end. I hate those 22 weeks plans. I want something that you can keep doin an increasing.
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bluebirdbiker posted 2 years ago.
blazindave;55663 wrote:
Was that directed towards me?
I want a plan that doesnt end. I hate those 22 weeks plans. I want something that you can keep doin an increasing.
Read this then http://www.cruciblefitness.com/blog/?p=43 and make your own
have you run marys? how many? have you done any IMs of halfs?
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alowrun posted 2 years ago.
Ive completed three marathons in the past, and about 4 mary's. Only done Sprint Distance Tri's, as my background is distance running, and I'm new to the other disciplines.
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Anton posted 2 years ago.
There is no shortcut to running long races or endurance events.
Find a plan that you think is reasonable. Do it. Stick to it. Only AFTER your race day will you know if is was too little or to much.
You then have to reaccess and devise another plan for your next event. You have to pay your dues to gain experience that will help you be successful...but that success won't come immediately. It takes time.
Alowrun..if you have no time goals for Disney...great. At least one easy 20 three weeks out should get you through. Two would be better..but remember...these are easy 1.5 to 2 minutes slower than race pace.
Disney is a great Mary. Lots of fun. Stay connected...alot of trifuelers will be there.
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alowrun posted 2 years ago.
Thanks so much Anton. Really appreciate the support. I'd really love to get in two 20's. My last longest run was April 27, 21 miles. Gotta stay healthy, maybe run just 4 times per week.
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blazindave posted 2 years ago.
bluebirdbiker;55664 wrote:
Read this then http://www.cruciblefitness.com/blog/?p=43 and make your ownhave you run marys? how many? have you done any IMs of halfs?
Thats insulting.
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alowrun posted 2 years ago.
How is that insulting?
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beads1985 posted 2 years ago.
Anton;55671 wrote:
There is no shortcut to running long races or endurance events.
Find a plan that you think is reasonable. Do it. Stick to it. Only AFTER your race day will you know if is was too little or to much.
You then have to reaccess and devise another plan for your next event. You have to pay your dues to gain experience that will help you be successful...but that success won't come immediately. It takes time.
Alowrun..if you have no time goals for Disney...great. At least one easy 20 three weeks out should get you through. Two would be better..but remember...these are easy 1.5 to 2 minutes slower than race pace.
Disney is a great Mary. Lots of fun. Stay connected...alot of trifuelers will be there.
If you have a sportkilt be sure to wear it and have fun.:D
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I am registered to run Disney. And I am planning a good two week taper. I want to get in my base now. I have no time goals, as I was injured for a long time, and am running about 6-10 miles per day now, with one day of X-training. I need to find a safe plan, or recomendation, to get my long runs back up. I ran 14 last Saturday, which felt fine. I haven't run over 20 since August 30, where i did a 21 miler fine. Since then, its been mostly 10-16 milers. How many 20s, How many 14-16 milers? What to do during the taper? I am quite puzzled. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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