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started by pkp190 on October 12, 2006

I know this sounds odd but is the distance of a swim for Half IronMan based on land miles or swimmer miles. Cause I have seen that a swimmers mile is only 1500m. Any help on this would be helpful.

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Tamara posted 2 years ago.

1500m = .93 miles.
1609m = 1 mile

Most races I've seen go with one "round" number or the other in terms of how they describe their distances. But the measurement is typically in standard mileage, not nautical miles.

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brittda posted 2 years ago.

Just like Tamara said--- usually a "mile" race is a 1650, because it has to be rounded up to the nearest 50 in the pool. When I practice I use 1650 as my bencmark.

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beads1985 posted 2 years ago.

brittda;54050 wrote:
Just like Tamara said--- usually a "mile" race is a 1650, because it has to be rounded up to the nearest 50 in the pool. When I practice I use 1650 as my bencmark.

I use the 1650 meter as my "mile" for swim training too.

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pkp190 posted 2 years ago.

Thanks all I just wanted to be sure.

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Tikal Dog posted 2 years ago.

This is why I love the way we measure stuff around here.

Meters and Kms. it's in fact how everything is measured in triathlons.(i mean...... the traditional distances)

I don't think they thought "let's make a marathon(or run leg of an Im) 26.2 miles!" NOPE Its a flat 42Km.

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tri-ac posted 2 years ago.

Tikal Dog;54087 wrote:
I don't think they thought "let's make a marathon(or run leg of an Im) 26.2 miles!" NOPE Its a flat 42Km.

42 is clearly much less random than 26.2! (roll eyes)

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blazindave posted 2 years ago.

tri-ac;54112 wrote:
42 is clearly much less random than 26.2! (roll eyes)

and it is the answer to everything(wonder if anyone will get this).
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senortodd posted 2 years ago.

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thebeatcatcher posted 1 year ago.

blazindave;54189 wrote:
and it is the answer to everything(wonder if anyone will get this).
:p

i tried to use this with some students and no one got it, i guess i'm getting old. and i never even read the book or saw the movie!

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jmruns430 posted 1 year ago.

Tikal Dog;54087 wrote:

I don't think they thought "let's make a marathon(or run leg of an Im) 26.2 miles!" NOPE Its a flat 42Km.

and I believe, from what I've read in several marathoning books, that it used to actually be 40km (~25 miles) until they held the olympics in England and the race course was extended to end on the Royal Lawn, thus becoming 26.2 or 42K. That could be a urban running myth, but I think that I've heard it around several times.

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tri-ac posted 1 year ago.

so, does anyone know what the actual distance was that Phidippides ran? was it anywhere close to 26mi..uh sorry, 42km?

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beads1985 posted 1 year ago.

tri-ac;57846 wrote:
so, does anyone know what the actual distance was that Phidippides ran? was it anywhere close to 26mi..uh sorry, 42km?

It varies but the last distance he ran, which killed him, was about 25 miles.

The whole story according to Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheidippides :D

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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.

I've always trained at 1650 yards for a swimmers mile. That being said, I train at no less than 2200 continuous yards for half-Iron and 4500 continuous yards for Iron distance. I've seen less recommended, but I think it always helps to overtrain the swim. For one thing, I've seen courses mismeasured by almost 70% and some swimmers who were barely trained to go the distance were literally floundering. For another, you never know what the conditions will be on race day. Wind and waves can add a lot of time to your swim and it can feel much longer than it actually is.

My husband's first sprint triathlon was supposed to be a .5 mile swim but was very long, and the race officials ended up deciding later that it was actually .93 m. You should've heard the swimmers cursing as they came out of the water!

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solidad posted 1 year ago.

Ironmom;58713 wrote:
I've always trained at 1650 yards for a swimmers mile. That being said, I train at no less than 2200 continuous yards for half-Iron and 4500 continuous yards for Iron distance. I've seen less recommended, but I think it always helps to overtrain the swim.

I agree with overtraining the swim as well, but not just because of potential miss measured courses, but rather, you need to finish the swim portion and have a ton left in the tank for the bike and the run. I feel the swm needs to be a piece of cake.

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Jstyle posted 1 year ago.

I know a large amount of races I have done were over measured. I can consistantly swim 750 meters in 15 minutes with no problem. I have had a few races that were almost 20min and a few that were 12.

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Ironmom posted 1 year ago.

Jstyle;59173 wrote:
I know a large amount of races I have done were over measured. I can consistantly swim 750 meters in 15 minutes with no problem. I have had a few races that were almost 20min and a few that were 12.

Yeah, I was looking at results online last night from a race I want to do next year (Sprint) and some of the swim times were in the five minute range. I'd say that course was a wee bit mis-measured. Personally, I'm always happy when the swim comes out a bit long;)

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