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TI Swimmers: Re: Balance

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started by Pete L. on August 28, 2006

I'm reading the TI swimming book for triathletes, and I am sold on this whole idea of fishlike swimming. The only problem is, I don't know if I'm doing it even close to right.

One of the basic exercises is this floating on your back and roating a bit side to side. I'm supposed to be able to just float on my back with the water at my eyes, and minimal kicking.

The amount of kicking I do is probably endlessly sustainable, but I'm not sure I'd call it minimal. Also, if there is much going on in the water at all (i.e. a swimmer in the next lane, of course my crap gym doesn't have lane dividers), I'm sucking water in my nose.

I'd like to move on in the book, but he has these warnings that basically say if you don't get the floating down, don't even bother with anything else. I don't think my balance is very good though, and my times aren't anywhere near what I'd like.

Any suggestions on how to tell if I'm doing the balance exercises right? Particularly the floating, and the side to side thing, I can't remember what its called but its supposed to be this happy place you're supposed to be able to find.

Thanks.

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Triguy98 posted 2 years ago.

I can't float worth a crap. I do believe the book says that if you fit certain perameters, than you can expect to suck at floating. As a tall skinny dude, I sink unless I am moving.
I wouldnt worry about it too much, just move on to the stroke drills, thats the real important stuff. The best way to get to be a good swimmer is to make your way over to you local masters swim team. You WILL get faster.

Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.

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deepbluex posted 2 years ago.

I'm a sinker too. If I relax and lay still in the water, I end up with my whole body totally vertical, with about 1 square inch on the top of my head above the surface.

When moving/swimming, I find I float well and flat on the surface if I keep my head down (chin almost touching chest). If I lift my head up even a little, my feet sink.

The wetsuit takes care of a lot of that. This is really helpful because I can lift my head more often to sight without my feet sinking down.

When doing the balancing exercises, I found that you get a lot more efficient by kicking from the hips than from the knees. You basically torque your core like in a golf swing. It's not as abrupt and dramatic as a golf swing but you if you feel your twist come from the hip rather than the legs, it'll feel easier and quicker.

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geochuck posted 2 years ago.

Although I am not into TI go to the top of this site check out Videos, When the Video Icon comes up there is on the right side a list I think the third one down is balance. http://www.totalimmersion.net/

I prefer Swim Smooth, look here also go down and download a Swim Smooth Video http://www.swimsmooth.com./downloads.htm

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Pete L. posted 2 years ago.

Thanks for the tips, guys. I'm heading over to the pool to work on some drills and have a soak in the the hot tub.

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PJT posted 2 years ago.

If you're inhaling water in the pool from wave action, you're definitely going to inhale it in a race. TI does have you work a lot on body rotation. One benefit is that a solid rotation can help get your face clear of the water for breathing.

I'm not 100% sold on TI, but I will admit that it has made me a lot more aware of what's going on when I swim and has helped me get a relaxed, steady stroke that I can maintain indefinitely.

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Pete L. posted 2 years ago.

geochuck;51099 wrote:

I prefer Swim Smooth, look here also go down and download a Swim Smooth Video http://www.swimsmooth.com./downloads.htm

I looked at these, and the 360 degree floating drill seems particularly useful to me. Also there is one about breathing and floating. On top of that, there is one that has you breath on every single stroke, to help you rotate and breathe quickly, and keep your balance while you do it.

These look like they will be very helpful. Thank you.

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Pete L. posted 2 years ago.

PJT;51131 wrote:
If you're inhaling water in the pool from wave action, you're definitely going to inhale it in a race.

Usually I do okay with the open water mass start/royal rumble, but last saturday I sure got a huge gulp of questionalbe lake water.

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guncollector posted 2 years ago.

I'm a T.I. devotee. I just started learning the front-crawl/freestyle for the first time this last June.

I worked through the drills in the T.I. book, then bought the video. Fortunately, I have a training partner who was a competitve swimmer in h.s. & college; and she added her tips on top of my T.I. indoctrination. I've also had some great tips from T/F's own George (geochuck). Thanks, George!

I've come to realize, that in the last 2 months, I've learned ALOT--more than I could have imagined absorbing when I started. Balance, streamlining, propulsion, and BREATHING...its ALOT and you can't work on it all at once; but it does eventually come altogether.

Along the way, after initially struggling with it, the whole "Balance thing" kind of suddenly became a natural. It will for you too.

Anyway, after 2 months of religious 3x's a week (or more) work in the pool, 1000-1500m each time. Even an Open Water swim here and there. I think its finally paid off. I was having a "personal best" swimming day (on Friday), where suddenly I went from 50m longest continuous swim to 200m.

I was having so much fun, I just kept swimming even after my total 1500m because I was so enjoying my newfound "fun" in the water. I went long on my lunch hour, and overlapped into the Masters Swim session. The Master's coach came over after I finished to invite me to join'em sometime. She then complimented me on my form. Wow! There's a compliment I took to heart!

Anyway, the T.I. system is not a be-all-end-all system. But, it is a great way start, and you can supplement it with tips and instruction from any variety of sources, like I did.

Good luck!

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geochuck posted 2 years ago.

guncollector;51208 wrote:

Along the way, after initially struggling with it, the whole "Balance thing" kind of suddenly became a natural. It will for you too.

I just kept swimming even after my total 1500m because I was so enjoying my newfound "fun" in the water. I went long on my lunch hour, and overlapped into the Masters Swim session. The Master's coach came over after I finished to invite me to join'em sometime. She then complimented me on my form. Wow! There's a compliment I took to heart!

Good luck!

Watch out for those Master Coaches before you know it you will want to swim your open water swims doing all four strokes. Or all the way doing butterfly.