I just signed for Ironman AZ
Jstyle...probably the first step would be to look over some training plans for Ironman and see which ones best suit you. Others may recommend finding a coach. If your money situation is like mine, self coaching is a good alternative.
In the programs you'll find various lengths for the longest training distances. For my past two IM's I swam the race distance on a regular basis in the two months prior. Managed to get in several 120 mile rides and long runs up to about 3 hours,which for me is 18-20 miles.
Others do different things...this is one one the things about IM. It is a voyage of discovery...That is why I self coach.
Books to get: "Going Long"
" The Triathletes training bible"
"Training programs for Multi-sport athletes."
The IM schedule offered here on this web site seems really good and is what I'm using,with some modification, for IMLP 07.
Good luck!
Oh...check the IMAZ site for the course profile!
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First off, congratulations for taking the big plunge. If you decide to go through with it, I promise that the next 8 months of your life won't be like any other time you've experienced.
To answer your questions: 4000m swim (about 4 or 5 times), 112 mile bike (twice, with some other 90+ mile rides), and a 20 mile run. When I do it again, I am definitely going to find a plan with a few more long bike sessions, as that is the area where I feel the least trained.
Oh, and I'll second Anton's recommendation to read "Going Long." Do it soon so you have time to implement the suggestions in the book.
Good luck on the HIM.
Thanks guys... I have Joe Friels book I just haven't really picked it up so I am gonna get off of my @55 and read some tonight. Thanks for the info. I am planning on getting to at least the distance on each catagory 2x minimum. The run is the easiest because I am already a marathon-er...
You know your abilities better than I do, but I would still be careful with doing any marathon-distance runs anywhere near the race day (I'm talking 3 months out and less). Recovery from those can really take a bite from the rest of your training, and you're already good at it anyway. Just a thought.
cool, I will see you there!
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Thanks for the info I think I am going to bump it up to around 30 by decemeber then cut it back quickly and nothing more then 20 miles 3 months before.
Jstyle, Congrats on signing up - I will be there as well and it will be my first IM. I have two Tri seasons under the belt with several Sprint and Olympic distances and 2 Halfs so I think I am ready to make the jump. I would HIGHLY recommend reading the two Joe Friel books, I have used both for the past two years and they really have all the information you need to put together your own training program and to help you fully understand how to train for ANY length event. Joe is the MASTER. However understand this is not a book you sit down and read once and Voila you have all the answers. BOTH of these books have to be read through via sections at a time AND then used as an ongoing reference. These two books sit on my coffee table and I refence each sevearl times a week. Although I read other articles etc. and always like hearing other peoples advice on training I feel the "core" of what you need can be found in these two books and if you take the time and effort you will have a first hand knowledge of how to train. If you are like many people and prefer to get a coach etc. nothing wrong there either - plenty of good ones out there and I think that can work very well for people. However I have done very well in just two years on my own and I am confident I know a lot about how to train correctly thanks to Joe and his literature. So start reading and the questions you asked about how far to swim, bike run will be answered in some detail - remember though it will take time to digest all of this information. Good Luck see you in AZ.
I have been doing this for 2 seasons as well. My first season was a Sprint Tri in april. That burnt me out for a long while. I woke up that morning and it was 39 degrees with a 20 mile and hour wind. By the time the race was over it was at a toasty warm 43 degrees. So that was my first and last race of the year. This year I have done 2 Sprints 1 oly distance. I am doing the HIM in september and a final sprint in october. I will make sure I hit some reading time in on Joes book...
I'm racing IMAZ and I am local, so if anybody needs info on the course, logistics, ect., let me know!
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Hey all,
This will be my first. I have done some sprints and an Olympic and ready to take on the big one. I too was also worried about the race filling up. I spoke to a local guy here the other day that has done 10+ IM and said he was surprised to see it still open. That same night I went home to go and sign up. So here I am. I am in San Diego so if anyone would like to train together, let me know.
I hear that training peaks has great IM plans. Anyone have any other suggestions?
I hear that training peaks has great IM plans. Anyone have any other suggestions?
I will just second the Training Peaks training plans - Actually mine was a IM training plan from Rich Strauss through Training Peaks. I'll see in about two weeks how well it worked for me!
RV
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Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss
Congrats on signing up. I just got back from IMUK, and it was the best experience of my life. All I can say is, if you think you've biked enough, go hit the bike some more. I know that was the one area that I could've used more training in. I did 2 100+ mile rides, the last being 4 weeks before the race, and multiple 90 mile rides, and I was nowhere near ready. Of course, this is my first season of tris, so what the hell do I know.
Does any one have any reccomendations on a training plan that does not include strength training? This is the one I found does any one have another? http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=441
I just did too. Looks like we will get to meet Red5, SundayND and Jstyle. Looking forward to seeing all you guys for a major PARTAY of the trifuelers for this event on April 15th!!
BBB
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I picked up Matt Fitzgerald's "Essential Week-By-Week Training Guide" to get plans for training for the HIM I'm training for now. There are 10 plans for each race distance ranging from "just finishing" to "I want to win". All I can say is I enjoy the structure of the plans (for me, it 3S, 3B, & 3R per week) and I am definately noticing an improvement in my times (especially on the bike). Like you, this is only my second season so having a structured plan has been a big help versus just coming up with it on my own. If you're near a Barnes & Noble any time soon, stop in and page through it. And good luck in AZ.
Braden
Ok, so change in plans for me and some. Hey anyone wanna share a room for the event that is going down? Cost share for the room etc. for the event?
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All,
I need some serious help here. I am already getting stressed about IMAZ. I have done sprints and one olympic. Any ideas? TrainingPeaks.com has some plans but they assume that I am doing 8-10 hours a week of training, but right now I am doing about 4-7. What do I do?
If you're doing 4-7 hours now, I'd look for a plan with a little longer base period of training to get your endurance level up. I would also go with a little longer plan since you're adding a longer base period on the front end. Since I'm only training for my first half-IM, I can't speak for the volume you'll need, but I'm going from doing my first olympic this spring to doing a 20 week plan for the half-IM and I'm feeling good about it. I would think that somewhere in the 30 week range should be pretty good, but that is a pretty uneducated guess on my part.
TrainingPeaks has several good base building plans. I used those prior to starting the IM training program. Might want to use those to get your endurance levels areobic base established. You don't want to jump right into an IM plan with heavy hours without a good base - else inviting injury.
RV
It takes a long time to get good. - Scott Molina
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast. - Rich Strauss










Well I called Ironman North America and they said there were less then a 100 slots open. So I went ahead and signed up. I know it's not for 8 months but I am already nervous. I have done a race out there the PF Changs Rock and Roll Marathon (which is a great idea on paper to have live bands but you can only hear them for a tenth of a mile in each direction when they feel like playing because the most of the time they are taking a smoke break.) So I have a little bit of exposure to that area we shall see how it goes. God I hope it's flat or at least mostly flat...
I have a HIM coming up in Sept which was going to be my warm up race to know if I wanted to do it. But with the race so close to filling up I had to get in while I still could. Right now I can comfortably (be it slow) swim 2k meters. With 8 months left to go I am sure I can bump it up to 4k meters.
My question is how long is the longest swim, bike or run you do in training?