Am I Ready for Lake Placid?
I've done IMLP twice...and observed once. I know how you feel.
Take a deep breath and relax. The training is over.The taper has begun.
There is nothing that you can do between now and then that will make you more fit. There are a bizillion things you can do to sabotage yourself. Err on the side of caution.
Follow your program...work on staying sharp. The long runs and rides are over (with 18 days left they should be)
Don't get caught in the hype of race week.
Go to the morning swim. Bike run course. Drive the bike course.
In the last three years I have seen folks actually ride BOTH laps of the course on wednesday or thursday...then wonder why race day was a bust. Or, run 13 miles on Saturday because they were "hyper" and suffered the next day.
IMLP is a great venue...enjoy your first IM and let us know how it goes.
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?" - Vincent Van Gogh
My Blog: http://agingsuperhero.blogspot.com
My advice is this...Relax, have fun with the event, and finish! Better to go out slow and finish than have a awesome swim and bike then bonk on the run and not be able to reach the finish line.
Your ultimate goal in any race is to get to the end, especially in your first IM.
You will not be the only one lining up asking, "Did I train enough?" The bike portion got to me between miles 80-95 (thought I was going to die).
I think someone else on here said this at one time..."Slow is smooth and smooth is gooooooood!" Remember we do this because we enjoy it!
Best of luck to you we're all chearing for you!
Thanks for the kind advice and comments - it does help! I remember crying the first time i watched an Ironmand DVD and seeing the people come across the line, with their families, smiling, crying, hugging..and not once did i ask what their time was...or did they come in the top x% - i was just amazed at how they felt, their reaction...i am looking forward to being able to run down the end with my 2 kids and the feeling i will have (hopefully)...For training, i am donig my last long run tomorrow - wantedt to do it this weekend but had some family obligations...so will do that tomorrow and then relax (relative term now) until race day - running is my strongest of the 3 and i recover pretty well so i am not worried about it being a few days later than i was planned...thanks guys - i will let you know how it goes.
for lake placid, should i be thinking a 3 week taper instead of 2?
someone posted articles on tapering on the bulletin board which said a 2 week taper is optimal, partially because training gains show up after 2 weeks?
id be happy to do a 3 week taper, but im concerned i didnt do a long enough run
i strained a tendon in my foot which hurt my run training in april/may - i have been slowly ramping it back up and im ready to do a long run - i have been completing a 12-15 mile run once a week during june
do i need to do a 18-20 mile run this saturday?
all advice is appreciated
tough call - this is my first IM so i am somewhat in new territory, although i have 3 marathons and 4-5 half IMs...could you do the run sometime this week or too tough with family and work? what and when was your last long run? how long would 18-20 take you? before your answers, i would say that doing one would help as long as you recover fairly well - you would have 2 weeks to get your legs back during which you would be tapering anyway...i am doing about 12-13 this weekend then longest run after that will be 7-8...
do i need to do a 18-20 mile run this saturday?
Really, it will depend on how much running you've done previously this season. I would'nt be too worried if you have an early season marathon (mid-April or May) under your belt. That should give you a fair base.
In my opinion, I would not do a 20 miler two weeks out from an IM event. I don't think you'll get any benefit from it. However, this could be one of those mental things. If you decide to do it, will the mental benefit of knowing that you have it on the books exceed the down side of lost recover and taper time? You'll have to decide.
[FONT=Impact]-Jason
"Fatigue will make cowards of us all!"
If your running base has been strong this season..pass on the long run...I feel it's just too close. 12 maybe, but 18 to 20..I wouldn't. But then, I'm a boring old hack and the soul of caution! ;)
Two weeks is just too close. Three weeks is perfect for a good IM taper.
as I said earlier: "There is nothing you can do between now and then that will make you more fit.There are a bizillion things you can do to sabotage yourself. Err on the side of caution."
Several years ago I had the chance to talk to some pros at a local race. One of them said to me..."It's better to go in undertrained than even a little bit over trained."
Spoonluv...how is the foot?..is a long run worth risking a re-injury right before IMLP? Caution is advised! You want to be standing on the lake shore that morning healthy and ready...
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?" - Vincent Van Gogh
My Blog: http://agingsuperhero.blogspot.com
I would certainly stay away from the 18-20 mile run this close in, too much recovery time. I just finished my first Ironman, IMCDA, it was amazing. Enjoy the experience, don't freak out about being undertrained and trust the taper process. You are going to want to run and bike long...it won't really help but it can sure hurt you. I tapered for two weeks and didn't even really get my legs back until thursday or friday before the race...needless to say i was pretty worried, but in the end i had a great race. work the nutrition, work the nutrition, work the nutrition....a hour four on the bike you won't want to eat...eat, and then at hour five you will feel sick...eat more. get the clif blocks that they will be passing out like they are halloween candy, they go down pretty well after you won't want solids...kind of like really big gummy bears. I never saw them until the race weekend and I loved them and would use them again. Bike - ride your race. I got passed by a ton of people on the bike, but I picked everyone of them off on the run as they finished hours behind me, if they finished at all. Good luck and most of all enjoy the day, it is amazing!
Thanks, Wesmeyer11! Very encouraging, positive and productive feedback. I am really excited for IMLP..coming quick! Started my taper so it feels like i am really not doing much, ie i ran 5 miles this AM whereas normally I would be donig a 12-13mile run or 2hour bike...so I feel lazy, but i know its part of the process. Congrats on your finish!
thanks for all the advice. i'm not doing the 18-20.
all of you are right - a little bit undertrained in 1 sport is much much better than overtrained.
thanks again.
Another tidbit of advice I picked up four years ago...
"A successful taper depends on your ability to stay home and watch DVD's"
In other words...TAPER...don't feel that your are getting fat or out of shape or whatnot during taper time.
This is where many IM's and endurance athletes in general really muck it up...trying to cram long workouts in right before what may be the biggest day of their lives.
Best of luck!
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?" - Vincent Van Gogh
My Blog: http://agingsuperhero.blogspot.com
I can watch DVDs - but i have to learn to watch them while not spinning on my trainer.
Another question on the taper for you vets. I understand how to change my training schedule, but what about eating and sleep?
Should I eat the same amount that I have been during training, or change, i.e. more carbs, more cals, less protein???
Then should I sleep the same amount. I sleep maybe 4-5 hours a night during training season. Should I increase that or keep at what i've been doing during training?
When it comes to sleep, I try to get the most amount of sleep possible. If I can get 8, I'll take 8. If I can get 9, I'll go for 9 even if I wake up earlier than that. Good sleep and nutrition today pay off in good performance tomorrow.
Even if I can't sleep well the night before a race (whether due to travel, jitters, early morning setup), I make sure I sleep well the week preceding to the race.
During taper, I try to keep to the advice I read: Reduce volume but maintain or even increase intensity.
For nutrition, I don't change anything. I do sprints and Olys which aren't that long so I don't "carbo-load". I simply eat the way I always do and that keeps my system in a happy equilibrium. I make sure to drink plenty of fluids (I mostly drink green tea), a light low-fiber dinner the night before, and a light carby breakfast 3 hours before race (1 bagel, watered down juice).
On race day I keep some watered down gatorade in the bike bottle and a couple of packets of honey taped on the bike stem.
As far as eating, I wouldn't really change anything, just stick to your normal diet, except like deepbluex said, the day before go with a couple of lighter meals rather than a big carbo load dinner. My pre race meal is usually something like fish as pasta doesn't really work for me. Also, at about two to three days out, add some table salt to your food, and of course hyrdrate. CDA was hotter than anything and hydration was essential to surviving the day. Also, you might want to consider some salt tablets, although if you haven't used them at this point in your training, then maybe it wouldn't be the best idea. Anyway, I use Hammer Nutrition Endurolytes and they are amazing. But, if you don't use them just make sure to consume gatorade endurance which will be on the course as well as something else with electrolytes....you want to get alot of those puppies!
Sleep is essential...it's when your body repairs itself...get as much as you can. Eat normally during the taper,and I love the advice about small meals in the days prior to the race.
Don't miss the IMLP carbo dinner...it's a great time to meet folks and part of the whole experience. Just don't stuff yourself with the so-so food.
As in any IM...or any long race...be ready for anything. The weather in Placid can be great ('04,05) or horrible (03)
Either way...smile ,enjoy the day and Finish!
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?" - Vincent Van Gogh
My Blog: http://agingsuperhero.blogspot.com
I just thought I would toss this out there for everyone going to LP. With all the talk of pre-race food and nutrition I must recommend the pasta buffet served at the Crowne Plaza. Don't let the "buffet" branding fool you, this is a complete made to order feast! You choose what items, what sauce, and what type of pastas go into each plate. It is cooked right in front of you. Last year they had shrimp, salmon, meatballs, really just about anything you wanted. Best part, all you can eat or box up and take out when your done with round 1,2, and 3.
[FONT=Impact]-Jason
"Fatigue will make cowards of us all!"
Can anyone post their Ironman equipment check-list?
Putting together my transition bags and special need bags and other equipment and anything else.
This is a basic list of the items that I'm sure to pack for the trip. It does not necessarily represent what I put in each bag. Furthermore, I don't use the special needs bags. I carry some PBars on the bike for solid food. For the run, I'm fine with the aid stations.
Swim:
Wetsuit
Googles
Bike:
Bike
Spare(s)
CO2
Helmet(s)
Bottle(s)
Shoes
Bento Box
Various tools (for any pre-race adjustments or quick fixes)
Tire pump
Run:
Shoes
Socks
Hat/visor
Misc.:
Gel
Powerbars (nutritional stuff)
Sunglasses (2 pair)
Lens array
Body Glide
Top & Tri shorts
Watch/HRM
Timing chip strap
Towels
Flip-flops
Teflon tape
Electrical tape
Athletic tape
Reflective tape
I always put a hand towel in each bag (bike & run) to wipe my feet in each transition. Plus it allows you to protect valuables like those Oakleys.
If you have not done this race before, remember, some cold weather gear for race morning. It can be in the high 40's to low 50's at 4:30-5:00AM in LP.
[FONT=Impact]-Jason
"Fatigue will make cowards of us all!"
Should have posted this Monday,as most folks are probably already in Placid, but...
Best of luck to all those at IMLP..
May you swim unhindred on the line.
May you have "no chain" that last time up Baby bear,Momma bear and Papa bear,
May you run in the with wings...
"What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?" - Vincent Van Gogh
My Blog: http://agingsuperhero.blogspot.com




My first IM is quickly approaching and I am now starting to question, "did i train enough?" I am sure this is a common thought that creeps into everyone's head who is doing an IM for the first time. However, I can honestly say I prepared as well as I could - wife, 2 kids, job etc (like everyone else here). I maybe could have done some more biking but less than 3 weeks now. Excited, nervous, in shock.....any advice from any IM vets?