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started by Sling on May 8, 2006

I was a roadie for a long time before I stared doing tris and I never had a problem with triathletes. I actually thought they were kind of cool and I enjoyed riding with them, which is one of the reasons I got into it.

A couple of weeks ago I rode on a group ride with some roadies on my tri bike (my road bike is in another state), and I started getting some massive attitude from the roadies. I was baffled. What the heck did I ever do to these guys? I finally had enough and dropped them without saying a word.

Granted, it was only a couple of jerks causing problems and one of the guys in the group came up to me yesterday and apologized for the others' behavior.

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a new phenomenon?

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Tribro posted 2 years ago.

Unfortunately it isn't. Many triathletes run into this type of attitude, more so if you jump in the group with aerobars. They hate that and often assume you don't know how to ride in a pack. Warranted if you don't and may cause an accident, but they should ask before making assumptions or just ask they you not ride with an aero bike.

Usualy if you ride with them on aregular bike and then show up occasionally with a tri bike, they don't mind as much...

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RV posted 2 years ago.

Ya, I have run into that fairly often. Many of them won't even acknowledge when passing in opposite directions... won't return a wave or whatever. Not sure why or what it is all about, but it is there.
Must be Tri-envy!

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deepbluex posted 2 years ago.

Best thing to do is to drop them and just get some peace and quiet ahead.

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Anton posted 2 years ago.

Two way street folks...been badgered showing up at a tri club ride on my road bike. Have met folks that think that if you DON'T have aero bars on you are some lower life form because you don't "tri". There is a wiff of that in your posts.

BOTH sports have alot of elietist snobs...as do running,climbing and AR...hell all sports do.
Do ya want to start a frame pump fight everytime it happens?
Talk to folks, be inclusive...make it work.

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rbreddin75 posted 2 years ago.

I think the attitude that ANTON is referring to is probably specific to the individual moreso than "triathletes"

but that roadie BS is one reason I've never showed up for any of their group rides... (because as a whole - THAT IS the attitude I've gotten from roadies)

I just smile and wave... and of course I'm as nice as I can be if they want to join in one of OUR group rides...

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kylie posted 2 years ago.

I've seen about the same amount from roadies and tri folks directed both ways. I now often ride with some roadies, and while I'm in awe of their handling during crits, they want to know how I can bike after running so long. I agree with Anton -- it definitely is through all sports. Just depends which people in the sport you meet.... and their experiences with others in our sport.

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newswim.7 posted 2 years ago.

tribro wrote:
Unfortunately it isn't. Many triathletes run into this type of attitude, more so if you jump in the group with aerobars. They hate that and often assume you don't know how to ride in a pack. Warranted if you don't and may cause an accident, but they should ask before making assumptions or just ask they you not ride with an aero bike.

Usualy if you ride with them on aregular bike and then show up occasionally with a tri bike, they don't mind as much...

Just curious, What are the rules for riding in a pack?

:rolleyes:

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Sling posted 2 years ago.

newswim.7 wrote:
Just curious, What are the rules for riding in a pack?

Here is a pretty good list:

http://www.bamacyclist.com/articles/groupridetech.html

They're all good, but I think the most important ones are: be predictable, announce your intentions, point out hazards and don't overlap wheels!

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Noel posted 2 years ago.

newswim.7 wrote:
Just curious, What are the rules for riding in a pack?

Whack stuck-up roadies with the frame pump.
If they act up, hit em again, HARDER.

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jsoder posted 2 years ago.

I ride with both groups and see the same thing. It is a real turn-off for me. Yes I'm competitive, but the reality is that I'm just having fun and staying fit. I gravitate towards groups that are more inviting and openly (as opossed to covertly) challenging.

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luke0ut posted 2 years ago.

Anton wrote:
Two way street folks...been badgered showing up at a tri club ride on my road bike. Have met folks that think that if you DON'T have aero bars on you are some lower life form because you don't "tri". There is a wiff of that in your posts.

BOTH sports have alot of elietist snobs...as do running,climbing and AR...hell all sports do.
Do ya want to start a frame pump fight everytime it happens?
Talk to folks, be inclusive...make it work.


I could hit somebody with this:

http://www.genuineinnovations.com/c-images/microflate.jpg

but I doubt it would hurt.

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Anton posted 2 years ago.

It would work really well in a sling shot!
co2 cartridge at 90 MPH...ouch!

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robinsl posted 2 years ago.

RV wrote:
Ya, I have run into that fairly often. Many of them won't even acknowledge when passing in opposite directions... won't return a wave or whatever. Not sure why or what it is all about, but it is there.
Must be Tri-envy!

No, not Tri-envy - I'm a straight cyclist, standard road bike and all, and I still get this sort of rudeness (that's just what it is). You wave or nod and some just ignore you. I don't know why - I think it's just some people are rude. I always think one day I'm gonna be stuck without a tube or a working pump or something and I'd rather someone stop and help because of courtesy than ride by without even a thought. I always think of myself in the other guy's shoes.

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trithis04 posted 2 years ago.

robinsl wrote:
You wave or nod and some just ignore you. I don't know why - I think it's just some people are rude.

That's it! Now, I'm aware that some roadies just don't like the tri-gang and vice versa, but reality be told some individuals are just self-absorbed does matter what the sports is. There are plenty of avid cyclists and triatletes here in the State College area most are friendly and offer a wave or greeting in passing. But some don't. In fact, yesterday I was out on a nice run through the game land trails. As I turned a corner, I passed two other runners going the opposite direction. I offered a "hey, fellas" and a wave, in return I got nothing in the way of acknowledgement. We passed within 3ft. of one another. Robins, well put...some people are just rude!

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MadAustinite posted 2 years ago.

eh i just ride alone, my tri bike and me!!! Plus i cant afford another bike so ya teehee!!

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trainDaBrain posted 2 years ago.

Anyone for a good old fashioned bike jousting competition?

That should really settle everything.

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Jcody posted 2 years ago.

I started riding with roadies first and saw some of the attitude long before I got into Tri. I still mostly ride with roadies and I generally ride aero, they may not say it but they love it when I pull their butts on a windy day! Also if you are strong and they say too much and you cna drop them then you can eitiher ride on your own from their on out or you will definately earn their respect. If you are confident in your bars and riding with confident riders around you I have found their are no problems. I have never had a crash in the past 3 years and I ride agressive A rides and stay with the top guys. My attiude is let's break the cycle of attitude on both side and all get out and have fun. We can all learn from eac:D h other and have fun, no need to get ugly about it.

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fittycent posted 2 years ago.

My theory is that friendliness in our sport(s) is an inverse function of the social interaction we enjoy while training/competing.

For instance, it’s pretty easy to talk to someone while riding a bike. It follows that cyclists make friends pretty easily. After only a few rides, they have so many new buddies they can’t even keep track of ‘em all! The last thing they need is more friends! At the opposite end of the spectrum we have those poor, lonely swimmers. Most of us know it’s nearly impossible to carry on a conversation while swimming, so they take advantage of every opportunity that comes their way to be as friendly as possible. That explains why they’re such a friendly bunch! Runners are stuck in the middle somewhere: they find it easier to converse while training than swimmers, but have more difficulty than cyclists, which explains why runners are “middling� in terms of friendliness.

As for triathletes…well, old habits die hard, and since most of us can trace our competitive “roots� to one of our three disciplines, we’re basically all over the board when it comes to friendliness.

I hope that clears everything up! ;)

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TBRAVO posted 2 years ago.

Oh just face the facts…
Roadies are a bunch of pack animals (think wolves) that don’t want interlopers joining the pack and ruining the genetics…
And Trigeeks are just a bunch of self centered Pirates that are only worried about getting done with the ride so they can go swim or run or go draw race numbers on their arms with a waterproof sharpie.
Now I can go for a ride…as soon as I find my dog (wolf) biscuits… and waterproof sharpie.
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