Part II - How is my position (images)
Much better. Now move those aerobars back so you're arms are at a 90 degree angle. You'll need to remove the arm rest pads to do so.
Removing spacers will lower your torso, resulting in a more aero position. You at a decent spot for now. Wait about 3 weeks, then lower it one spacer at a time.
Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.
Sorry, just saw your first post- don't need to know the size anymore.
-Johnie
yes... move back the areo bars a bit... if you look at the first one compared to the second, the angle of the arm was much better.... your arm should look like an extention of fork... same sort of angle. It's just a bit off....
as for spacers... yea if you get rid of them they'll make you morse aero by the angle of your back... dont worry about it though... it's more of a flexibility thing... if you're comfortable without them great... if not, then no biggie... as long as the position is right.
Honestly you look far to upright, but that could be because of the lower camera angle. The knee to hip to shoulder angle looks good and the elbow to shoulder to hip angle looks good. Your butt also looks a bit far back on the seat. But then again, what do I know? I paid someone to fist me!
I also think you look kind of upright in your aero position. Your back seems more upright than horizontal. Have you considered flipping your stem or at least lower it so your bars are lower?
The elbows seem too straight... Get a shorter stem, saw off the extensions on your aero bars or move your seat forward more... Something to get your elbows in a more perpendicular position.
I paid someone to fist me!
I know what you mean, but it sounds.....a little awkward when you say it like that. ;)
I know what you mean, but it sounds.....a little awkward when you say it like that. ;)
I know what you mean. Try explaining it to those that aren't tri-geeks. It really gets wierd.
You're really not aero at all in your position. Your back should be flat, in your position you might as well be on a road bike.
Removing the spacers is very easy, you don't need the lbs. Just need an allen wrench.
From article by Michael McCormack:
"Myth #2
Flatten your back
Sexy as it might appear, and despite the million times you have heard this referenced, the data from the wind tunnel does not support this myth, nor did the curved backs of Tony Rominger and Miguel Indurain as they set the world records for the Hour ride."
It's not really an issue of "flat" (or rather "straight") back v. curved. I think the images show a back that is too upright and therefore not aero.
I think "flat" here should be read as "more horizontal" rather than necessarily "straight"
Flatness is a factor determined by flexiblity. New riders likely wont be horizontal right away unless they posses some significant degree of limberness. In fact, with a true newbie, too horizontal will likely be deterimental to their riding, as the position will put undue strain on their hams, which is the exact opposite of the purpose of the tri position.
Stop riding him about lower the bar right now, and let him work his way down gradually. Theres plenty of spacer there, and then an upgrade to some T2s will help dramatically. It just takes a bit of time. For all those hounding him about being flat, post pics of your own position for everyone else to see.
Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.
Thank you everyone for your replies, very much appreciated.
Seat may be a CM or two too low.
You may want to find a FIST certified fitter. I think the advice you are getting here is in too much conflict and lacking ANY credibility as to be useful as a final solution.




Last week I posted images of myself on my new Equinox 7 and asked you for your input. I thank everyone who replied with advice, and I have made some of the suggested changes...
1. The most requested - REMOVE THE REFLECTORS!!!
2. Lower the aero bars.
3. Raise the seat.
I did not remove the spacers, I will leave that for the LBS to do. What is the advantage to removing some spacers?
I would like to apologize to the wall critic for not hanging up a picture on my wall.
Here is a link to the new position (3 images)
http://softsphinx.com/triathlon/bikefit2.htm
Here is last weeks link
http://softsphinx.com/triathlon/bikefit.htm
Thank you Trifulers, I look forward to your responses.