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started by trixiwix on April 14, 2006

I'm a biking newbie, so bear with me here. I have a good road bike and would like to get clipless pedals, though I realize they will take some getting used to. Will any pair of pedals fit a given bike, or are different brands make to fit different bikes? :confused:

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firegirl posted 2 years ago.

in general any pedals will fit any bike. road shoes go with road pedals and mountain shoes go with mountain pedals. a good LBS should be able to set you up with something reasonably priced. i have look pedals, which are still kind of hard for me to snap into sometimes, but i am totally new. one of my girlfriends has speedplays (the little round ones) and she says they are easy and give her a little more wiggle room, which helps out her knees. still another uses mountain pedals so she can ride in sandals during the endless texas summer (mountain shoes are softer and easier to walk in, and often have very functional styles). so it just depends what you are looking for. hope that helps.

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beads1985 posted 2 years ago.

Getting bike shoes and pedals will help out your ride by giving you more power to your pedal stroke.
You can practice getting used to clipping in and out while in a trainer or get on your bike in a doorway so you can hold on to the door frame.
You will get used to it. :D

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Bad Idea posted 2 years ago.

About the fitting question...

Take the Look company for example. They make clipless pedals and the cleats that go with their pedals. Speedplay have pedals that go with their pedals and so on and so on... Some companies however make only the pedal that can be used with a Look or a Speedplay cleat. I would stay away from thoes because sometime the fit can be a little off and the quality not as good.

I have a pair of Look's and they are awsome

Definity get a pair with lots of float so your knees and feet will be able to move around.

Any pedal will fit any bike, its just a matter of screwing the threads correctly.

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Learn posted 2 years ago.

Don't forget the shoe equation - the cleat must co-operate with your shoe. Most will, but sometimes they don't.

I have Ultegra SPD-SL. I think you can get an even less expensive pedal that is about the same model. The nice thing about this cleat is you can hop into a Look Pedal if you have to. It will be a little loose but the looseness goes away if you emphasize 6 to 9 like you are suppose to.

I am switching to M2Racer Orb 2 pedals, though, because, well, the idea of them is so uber.

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deepbluex posted 2 years ago.

I thought that Look/SPD-SL style pedals were favored by road cyclists because the wider platform base on the pedal allowed for better force distribution during the power stroke compared to the small-footprint "SPD" design. But looking at the M2Racer Orb2, it looks like the footprint on that pedal is even smaller than SPD. So can someone explain to me why SPDs are not as good as SPD-SL if it's not about the size of the footprint?

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Bad Idea posted 2 years ago.

chainreaction.com/pedalfaq.htm

They SPD-SL wide platform just give more stability and it could be easier to clip in.

http://forums.menshealth.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/867103761/m/563100724/r/283104644?source=rodale

another depate article.

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glbrum posted 2 years ago.

As per the original poster, all pedals are compatible with all crank arms. The threads on the pedals and corresponding whole on the crank arms are always the same size so you can buy any pedal and put it on any bike and then take it off and put it on another bike. The only compatibility issue comes with the cleats. LOOK pedals have a different cleat than TIME pedals and SPEEDPLAYS are different also. Easier way to look at it: use speedplay cleats with speedplay pedals, time cleats with time pedals, and look cleats with look pedals. If you have 2 bike and 2 different types of pedals, you will need 2 pairs of shoes.

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glbrum posted 2 years ago.

deepbluex wrote:
But looking at the M2Racer Orb2, it looks like the footprint on that pedal is even smaller than SPD. So can someone explain to me why SPDs are not as good as SPD-SL if it's not about the size of the footprint?

It is about the footprint or "platform". An SPD, as you know has a very small surface area, thus you are putting all your force into a very small space. Same with the M2Racer. The idea of an SPD-SL, TIME, LOOK, or SPEEDPLAY pedal is the larger surface area, thus more of your foot is "in contact" with the pedal. Does this make sense? The larger platform also is a more comfortable ride over the longer distances because of the larger platform. I have seen the M2Racer pedals in picture and they didn't look comfortable. The bike was also a weighweenie bike so it was built to be as light possible. Bottomline, the don't look sturdy for longer distances. I'm not saying they aren't sturdy and comfortable but they sure don't look it. I'd rather stick with my tried and true Speedplay and Time pedals. I'll remove the extra 100 grams from my gut instead. ;)

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TBRAVO posted 2 years ago.

Lance uses the Dura-Ace SPD-SL.
What else is there to know? :D
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bigdogtwo posted 2 years ago.

I have SPD-SL pedals. Love them. Haven't used anything else though.

When you are learning to clip in, I found that it helped just to unclip from one pedal -whichever one you feel most comfortable with. When you start back up, just pedal with the one clipped in foot for a few rotations of the crank. Once you have a bit of speed going then clip in the other shoe. The three times I fell learning to clip in was due to not going fast enough when I tried to clip in.

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Learn posted 2 years ago.

glbrum wrote:
It is about the footprint or "platform". An SPD, as you know has a very small surface area, thus you are putting all your force into a very small space. Same with the M2Racer. The idea of an SPD-SL, TIME, LOOK, or SPEEDPLAY pedal is the larger surface area, thus more of your foot is "in contact" with the pedal. Does this make sense? The larger platform also is a more comfortable ride over the longer distances because of the larger platform. I have seen the M2Racer pedals in picture and they didn't look comfortable. The bike was also a weighweenie bike so it was built to be as light possible. Bottomline, the don't look sturdy for longer distances. I'm not saying they aren't sturdy and comfortable but they sure don't look it. I'd rather stick with my tried and true Speedplay and Time pedals. I'll remove the extra 100 grams from my gut instead. ;)

I'd say that doesn't make any sense if you have a carbon sole shoe. My foot doesn't have any idea about what size the pedal platform is when I'm wearing a shoe like that.

This would make pedal size irrelevant.

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Bad Idea posted 2 years ago.

Learn wrote:
I'd say that doesn't make any sense if you have a carbon sole shoe. My foot doesn't have any idea about what size the pedal platform is when I'm wearing a shoe like that.

This would make pedal size irrelevant.

Pretty much with carbon soles. But with the cheaper kind that are hard plastic, when riding for a long time you can get a hot-spot where the cleat is, but this can be eliminated with a lager platform look pedal or whatever floats you boat.

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glbrum posted 2 years ago.

Learn wrote:
I'd say that doesn't make any sense if you have a carbon sole shoe. My foot doesn't have any idea about what size the pedal platform is when I'm wearing a shoe like that.

This would make pedal size irrelevant.

Have you used several different types of pedals before?

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rbreddin75 posted 2 years ago.

BEING NEW to clipless pedals... i'd suggest SPD (mountain bike style)
the shoes are eaiser to get used to, and the pedals will last you quite a while...

that being said.. when you get better... you'll probably want to change to a ROAD specific pedal and shoe
I have the ultegra SPD-SL (just like the dura ace pedals except heavier - 1/2 the price)
and love them...

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Klodge posted 2 years ago.

Someone told me that riding a road bike with mtn bike shoes and pedals can cause stress to the Iliotibial Band. Now that my mileage is going up and I do feel a bit of pain on the left side of my left leg, do you think this is true and should I just get road shoes and pedals?

Thanks - Kristen

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firegirl posted 2 years ago.

IT band syndrome is an overuse injury. body mechanics contribute, so depending on how one rides, i would think any type of pedal could cause it given your personal mechanics and repeated training. i don't know that mtn pedals are specifically to blame (experienced cyclists-- any thoughts??) i do know that the friends i spoke about who do this regularly ride long (ex. 500 mi in a week) distances in sandals, and do not have this problem.

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Learn posted 2 years ago.

glbrum wrote:
Have you used several different types of pedals before?

I have used Look and SPD and SPD-SL. I thought about Speedplay but the Orb2 just seem better. Will let you know.

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Riverbrady posted 2 years ago.

The primary difference between road shoes and mountain bike shoes are sole stiffness and tread. Road shoes tend to have a stiffer platform for power distribution while mountain shoes are a little more flexible and have addition tread for those times you're not clipped in.

Most of the IT Band problems I've known people to get have been from float (too much or too little depending on the person) or fit on the bike...basically anything that's causing you to pedal unnaturally.

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