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rb85cj7 posted 2 years ago.
There is a bunch of info in the training section of this site.
http://www.trifuel.com/triathlon/heart-rate-training/index.php
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thehitman posted 2 years ago.
Go out and run a 100 yard dash.
You'll find your HRmax in about 12 seconds, give or take a second or so. :)
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bluebirdbiker posted 2 years ago.
It's easy to figure out if you like pain. I just did a set on Thurs. and HRmaxed out. It hurt a lot. I didn't mean to do it, but just ended up maxing out. See here for how I did it (HRmax). Or try Tim's method (Tim's method ).
If you don't like eithermethod, just search the trifuel thread and/or google HRmax and find something you like. What ever you choose, get ready cause it hurts. Good Luck and let us know how it went :D
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machiavelli posted 2 years ago.
A 100yard dash might be a little short, go for about a 10km kick and towards the end, find some hills and hammer hard up them - got mine to 210bpm doing such. It seems for me anyways, the highest I have been able to get on a bike is 202bpm. So try a few sports.
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thehitman posted 2 years ago.
machiavelli wrote:
A 100yard dash might be a little short, go for about a 10km kick and towards the end,....
A kick at the end of a 10K run?
Now we've gone to the other extreme!
How about we compromise - a 800m "warm-up" with a 100m kick at the end? :)
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bluebirdbiker posted 2 years ago.
thehitman wrote:
A kick at the end of a 10K run?
Now we've gone to the other extreme!
How about we compromise - a 800m "warm-up" with a 100m kick at the end? :)
Na, doesn't hurt enough. Gotta go for a 1/2 mary and kick the last km. That will work, if not kill you :D
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TriTimKC posted 2 years ago.
I like BBB's MaxHR test for the run. Although I might not want to do this over my lunch hour! :p The link to my test is for finding the peak HR for the bike which could be 5-10 beats lower than the peak HR for running. Good to find both for proper training zones though.
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machiavelli posted 2 years ago.
With a 800m 'warm-up' your heart rate is really not going to get too elevated.
The 220-Age formula will you get you close, I think you want to be at least in the 70-80% of that max zone before initiating a hard push. Think of it as a 'launch zone.'
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beads1985 posted 2 years ago.
You can also see a cardiologist and have a stress test.
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bluebirdbiker posted 2 years ago.
machiavelli wrote:
With a 800m 'warm-up' your heart rate is really not going to get too elevated.
The 220-Age formula will you get you close, I think you want to be at least in the 70-80% of that max zone before initiating a hard push. Think of it as a 'launch zone.'
Dude, the 220 thing is for sedentary people. If I do mine its 220-40= 180bpm as max and I have been at 200bpm during a race. Ya, real accurate and close! :D
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beads1985 posted 2 years ago.
bluebirdbiker wrote:
Dude, the 220 thing is for sedentary people. If I do mine its 220-40= 180bpm as max and I have been at 200bpm during a race. Ya, real accurate and close! :D
My cardiologist recommended the formula 220 - 1/2(age) if you are very active. He felt once you have trained long enough, and had a feel for your body that, perceived effort was a good gauge. He also is a multiple marathon runner.
I have been using a HRM and perceived effort.
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RV posted 2 years ago.
bluebirdbiker wrote:
Dude, the 220 thing is for sedentary people. If I do mine its 220-40= 180bpm as max and I have been at 200bpm during a race. Ya, real accurate and close! :D
I should know this but never gave it much thought: Confusion with the definition of MaxHR.
Is it the max that you are capable of hitting?
The max capable of sustaining for a short interval of time i.e. a sprint finish, attack a hill etc.
Or is it the max that you should not exceed.
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bluebirdbiker posted 2 years ago.
Still, I have to argue that RV, sorry. At least the part where you say
RV wrote:
. Only reason is that I can sustain a 184bpm for about 2-3 min, at least I did in the last 1/2 mary I ran. If that fits the statement made above then that is it I guess, but the way I see it Max HR is MAX HR; anyway you look at it. To me HRmax is the max that your heart will go without you keeling over, or just about dieing. Anything else is prob. fdefined as something else I would say.
The max capable of sustaining for a short interval of time i.e. a sprint finish, attack a hill etc.
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RV posted 2 years ago.
bluebirdbiker wrote:
Still, I have to argue that RV, sorry. At least the part where you say . Only reason is that I can sustain a 184bpm for about 2-3 min, at least I did in the last 1/2 mary I ran. If that fits the statement made above then that is it I guess, but the way I see it Max HR is MAX HR; anyway you look at it. To me HRmax is the max that your heart will go without you keeling over, or just about dieing. Anything else is prob. fdefined as something else I would say.
Actually -
Is it the max that you are capable of hitting?
The max capable of sustaining for a short interval of time i.e. a sprint finish, attack a hill etc.
Or is it the max that you should not exceed.
each of those were supposed to be a question or option as how to define the MaxHR - Not my definition for it - But you did answer what I was trying to ask - Thanks.
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thehitman posted 2 years ago.
bluebirdbiker wrote:
Still, I have to argue that RV, sorry. At least the part where you say . Only reason is that I can sustain a 184bpm for about 2-3 min, at least I did in the last 1/2 mary I ran. If that fits the statement made above then that is it I guess, but the way I see it Max HR is MAX HR; anyway you look at it. To me HRmax is the max that your heart will go without you keeling over, or just about dieing. Anything else is prob. fdefined as something else I would say.
Your HRmax is, by definition, the fastest your heart can beat. If it could beat any faster, that would be your HRmax.
I've never seen the 220 - 1/2(age) formula --- although I've seen 210 and 205 minus 1/2(age). Just goes to show how wildly different those calculations are. In my case;
220 - age = 164
220 - 1/2(age) = 193
The first calculation is about 20 bpm low, while the second is about 10 bpm high. I don't know why an athlete would use those formulas, as opposed to actual readings in a field test.
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TBRAVO posted 2 years ago.
Here is a good article from Runners World on calculating Max HR:
Finding Your Max
For years, everyone (including us) has been telling you that the best way to find your maximum heart rate (MHR) is to subtract your age from 220. Sorry about that.
Turns out that's not the most reliable method, at least not for healthy, fit individuals like the readers of Runner's World. For most of you, two newer formulas will prove far more accurate:
(A) MHR = 208 - (.7 x your age).
(B) MHR = 205 - (.5 x your age).
A small group of Runner's World staffers recently tested these two formulas, and reached the following conclusions. Both seem to work almost equally well for runners under 40. For runners over 40, formula (B) appears to be more accurate. We now believe that (B) is the single best formula for predicting maximum heart rate, and we're adopting it as our Runner's World standard.
Then there's option C:
Of course, no predictive formula can ever be as accurate as an honest-to-goodness, all-out field test. You can conduct such a test on a track or a moderately steep hill, which may work better if you're not an experienced track runner. And by the way, since all the workouts in this article depend on an accurate MHR, it's worth the effort to take this test. You'll need to wear a heart-rate monitor for it.
Here are the three essential steps:
1. Be sure you're well rested, well hydrated, and well warmed up.
2. Run hard and fast for 2 to 3 minutes. Jog back to your starting point. Repeat two more times, running a little harder and faster each time. On the third and last repeat, pretend you're running an Olympic race.
3. Check your heart rate during and immediately after the last repeat. The highest number you see is your maximum heart rate (MHR).
Tips for Beginners
Newcomers to running are some of the biggest fans of heart-rate monitors, for two main reasons. Tracking heart rate ensures you're working hard enough to reap fitness benefits. On the flip side, setting a maximum heart rate on the monitor can keep overzealous novices from overdoing it.
Beginners should choose a target heart-rate zone--generally between 65 and 75 percent of maximum heart rate (MHR)--and stay within it for most of their workouts. Runners who haven't yet developed a sense of their speed and effort can learn from their monitor. "I love being able to keep a consistent pace without having to look at my watch all the time," says Kerrie Hardman, 37, who started running 2 years ago. "Nothing has helped my training more than monitoring my heart rate."
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bluebirdbiker posted 2 years ago.
(B) is close to my bike HRmax. but not even for running. I still say a test where you nearly puke is the best i.e., option C. Anyway you do it, it hurts. But we ALL like pain riiiight? :D
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tong posted 2 years ago.
haha whoa thanks lots of opinions here. wil take the time to digest (and try some!) of them...
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OhUDid12 posted 2 years ago.
I just bought a Polar HRM. I set it up and went out for an easy run 4 miles 40 min. At the end of the run I picked up the pace for 100 yards then pressed harder, not full out for sure. When I got back. I checked the HRM log Max HR 110% Average 94% Max BPM 192 Ave. 165. I'm sure 200 BPM would have been possible, but safe?
I am 45 what do I do, set my birthdate up to age 25 so 100% fits??? Is my HR too fast? Is that possible. I have been running all my life (not fast, just long) could that affect this "formula" stuff? Thanks....
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rob6118 posted 2 years ago.
All I have to add is stress tests suck. Took one when I tracked my heart rate hitting 210-220 and got concerned since it was followed by passing out. The stress test only got me up to 160 bpm. It must have been designed for your average american (the one you can find in a mcdonalds). I think the 10k recommendation was a good one. Or at least something similiar, go on a long ride or run, and then hammer the last 10%. You know until you feel like you are going to puke, or if you stop suddenly and pass out, then you know that you've hit it. Oh and the pain lol. Or you could always stick to the 220 minus age. But I'm 20 and I've est. my max so far at anywhere from 210-220 so it can be off.
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tong posted 2 years ago.
what abt using the function polar fitness test in the watch...is that accurate? it gave me max hr 200...vo2 max 53...does a low maxHR mean i'm any more or less fit?
so i've just recently landed myself with a polar s510...still playing around with it figuring out the functions. need advice on more accurate ways (other than polar's 220-age) to determine my Max HR or if someone cld refer me to previous threads which covered this same topic. thanks!