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started by rob6118 on January 26, 2006

Well running is my 2nd fav. part of the triathlon so admitedly I may have started my training a bit quickly this season because after only sprint tris, I'm shooting for my first oylmpic in april, and my first half ironman in November. Well 3 wk of training and I ran 6.5 miles and now for the first time I'm having an issue with foot pain. At first my foot was just a little sore at what feels like a joint behind my pinky toe. Not the joint at the base of the toe, but the next one back on the foot towards the ankle. I though maybe I had dislocated the joint slightly so I just moved it around a little and it cracked a few times. Uncomfortable but not too painful. Now a day later though I'm walking with a pretty good limp. Any time I put weight on that side of my right foot it feels like its pinching a nerver or something. Pretty severe pain. But when I manually feel the bone and joint it doesnt really hurt so I don't think its a stress fracture or anything. It also feels the same as the opposing joint on my left foot so I don't think its a bone spur... Do you guys mess up joints in your feet that causes them to pinch nerves (almost like you can do with your knees?). Is there any sort of perferred treatment for this? I haven't run in 4 days as per the training plan, but tomorrow I have a distance 1:15 hour run and I've learned my lesson not to always just run through injuries. Any thoughts?

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kylie posted 2 years ago.

All I can say is that I might have felt a similar pain ;) My left foot tends to get VERY mad sometimes if on a slanted road that is down to the left (ie it doesn't like the weight shifted to the outter edge of the foot). This started happening after rolling my ankle (slipping on a rock trail running). It does it less often now (it was a few months ago) but that spot (sort of below the ankle and just in front of it) occasionally aches. However, no pain for most normal running, or with pressure applied to the foot. Icing seemed to help me... and I rarely feel it now.

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rob6118 posted 2 years ago.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, that got me thinking maybe its because I ran the 6.4 miles on a track, going in a counterclockwise direction. At the curves this puts a lot more pressure on my right foot to stabilize me while going through the turn at speed, which would explain why that far right side of my foot is sore. My left foot is now sore to, just not as bad as my right. And this occurred after a 2 hour bike ride yesterday. I'm thinking that just the raw amount of training i'm doing is wearing out my tiny foot muscles/tendons (all three events put some stress on them) and that combined would probably less then perfect work shoes (as far as support) means that I'm just wearing out my feet. I'm gonna try the icing and go to a supposedly good running store today in Orlando to see if new shoes selected by a knowledgeable staff might help. Also gonna get some upgrades for my bike (clipless pedals, real cycling shoes, gasp aerobars!). Gotta love when financial aid comes in for us college students. No ramen noodles for me this year, instead I'll have some spiffy tri gear!

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edubb posted 2 years ago.

What is the status of your foot pain? I have this same pain in my right foot on the 4th metatarsal. I haven't ran for about 2 weeks and still have some pain. Have you seen a doc at all yet?

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firegirl posted 2 years ago.

hey, y'all should really consider seeing an MD. best case scenario, your shoes are worn out and not properly supporting you, so what you are feeling is the small muscles and ligaments that are being overworked. flip side, you could have a stress fracture. that will _not_ go away on its own. (at least not with all you hard-core dudes running on it as soon as you can tolerate it.)

go get films and find out. if you don't have a fracture, you can fix the problem and get on with training. if you do-- the sooner you heal, the sooner you'll be back pounding pavement.

just my 2 cents. i'm not a doctor, but i play one on tv.

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kylie posted 2 years ago.

I guess a tv doc gives you some authority... ;)

I have considered seeing a doc, but I'm one of those "but it doesn't hurt that bad". I guess it might be good to know this much before the IM, but.... :D

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rob6118 posted 2 years ago.

I agree to firegirl. I've gotten a lot smarter as I've increased my training and have learned to listen quite acutely to what my body is telling me. My new shoes helped alot but haven't elminated all the pain. The main culprit appeared to be running on a track. Apparently running 8 laps a mile, for 10 miles, in circles puts a ton of stress on the outside of my right foot when I'm running clockwise. I know I know you aren't supposed to run on tracks for that distance but I can't resist all the attractive distractions *grin*.

The shoes helped, combined with some foot strengthening exercises online and it seems I have it licked. It still hurts after a 10 mile run but the pain goes away almost immediately. If your pain is constant and doesn't go away (I had to stop running for a couple days because of ITB so that may have helped as well) then I would consult an MD as well. A stress fracture is def. a possibility.

In my experience though stress fractures will cause localized pain on the bone at the point of the fracture which is not what I felt. It appears that the pain was more of a strained tendon type of injury from the uneven stress on the foot. If you can't feel any localized pain on your bones, then I would suspect its a similiar injury. Have you stopped running for a while? I know no one likes to hear that. But I've learned to take off 2 days right after an injury rather then running through until I'm on crutches for 2 months.

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edubb posted 2 years ago.

I have taken off about 2 weeks and still feel like if I were to run right now the pain would come back. I have an appointment with a podiatrist coming up in about 2 weeks so until then i will continue to abstain from running. Guess this will help me improve my swim and bike, gotta be positive.

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kylie posted 2 years ago.

Oddly enough, I think mine (although originally a running injury) now usually hurts more from biking. Just achy though, never pain-pain.

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Anton posted 2 years ago.

For all you guys running on the track...which I do to from time to time...It's ok to "unwind" your miles. Run a mile counterclockwise,then move to the outside and run a mile clockwise. If your are forced to track run due to time or location,this helps alot. In the ultra running community track runs are held all the time for up to 24 hours or more. Every so often everybody reverses and "unwinds"

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bluebirdbiker posted 2 years ago.

kyillee wrote:
...I have considered seeing a doc, but I'm one of those "but it doesn't hurt that bad". I guess it might be good to know this much before the IM, but...

You is a tough cookie Kylie. Don't listen to her she is weird :rolleyes:

I have the same thing if I run with intensity for a long time. I foound the pinky on the left foot gets sensitive after the long runs (e.g. 2hrs) Analyzing the situation it is my thought that cause I have a high arch when I stride the shoe hits the ground on the outer portion of the shoe. Thi seems to put alot of pressure and impact on the pinky. Maybe try running more flat foot? Adjaust your running style might help. Good luck

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firegirl posted 2 years ago.

bbb-
do you get your running shoes fitted at a running store? i ask because with a high arch, you may supinate. most running shoes are made for pronators, as the vast majority of runners have this type of footstrike. if you wear shoes for pronators, they may push you further onto the side of your foot.

edubb- rock on dude. i hope the pod takes care of you. in the meantime you'll be that much faster in the water.

rob is right, a stress fx is usually localizable. however, if you run long enough, it may be difficult to localize, and you may have swelling and more diffuse pain. any pain that 1) occurs every time you do an activity, 2) increases in intensity during the activity, 3) occurs at rest, or 4) significantly impairs your training or daily activity-- is worth checking out with a doc.

kyillee- you're a stud. happy training, but listen to your body. a stress fx can take several weeks to heal. soft tissue injuries can be much faster if properly rehabbed. i hope you have neither and you can just power through whatever tweaked muscle you're dealing with.

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Tri Hard posted 2 years ago.

Anton wrote:
For all you guys running on the track...which I do to from time to time...It's ok to "unwind" your miles. Run a mile counterclockwise,then move to the outside and run a mile clockwise. If your are forced to track run due to time or location,this helps alot. In the ultra running community track runs are held all the time for up to 24 hours or more. Every so often everybody reverses and "unwinds"

Was going to say the same thing that Anton said, this also has the distinct advantage of making you pass the fine young specimens on the track much more frequently. It also give you a different view :D but you have to be a little more descrete in your oglying ;)

Good day and good oglying.

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rob6118 posted 2 years ago.

Lol so its legit to be the only weirdo going the opposite direction on the track? i thought that that might somehow clue the specimens into the real reasons I was running 10 miles on an indoor track lol.