"On your Left" or no?
I don't use it during training. I just give myself plenty of space between the other rider(s). During races, I won't use it either unless it is a tight/technical course. For the most part, the courses are wide open so I don't see the need. The only time I'll relaly uise it is if I think I'm in danger of someone coming into my line and causing any trouble. Otherwise, I keep my silence and fly on by.
What is your feeling on saying 'On Your Left' when you pass someone? I never say it except during races and then only when passing is tight. I've said it a few times during training rides and it seems to freak people out more than it helps. Just curious what everyone else thinks.
I almost always say it. One my the nice routes in my area is the Prairie Trail/Fox River Trail --- something like 52 miles from the Illinois/Wisconsin stateline, south almost to Joliet. Cyclists share the trail with runners and walkers (though surprisingly few), and you never know when someone is going to carelessly veer to the left.
I shout it out plenty of time in advance, and am ready to brake if I don't see a reaction.
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I use it when there are people around and they might not be aware of me (once I'm playing "light tag" when I keep going back and forth with someone as we hit different lights, then I don't say it). I use it in races if there is not a clear line for the person to keep. I use it on bike paths because I'd rather say it and surprise someone than not say it and have a wreck or hit someone.
I use it in a race mostly (if I do) as some have said and on the street IF there is not much room for a pass.
Hey, if they don't move out of the way I snot rocket them as I go by :D
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Never during the swim, tried once and it didn't work out too well.
Pretty much always during the ride, racing and training. You just never know when someone is going to vere, darn spelling again PoC? - my persaonl spellcheck :). Or jump out of the saddle. But quite honestly I'm usually the recipient of an "on your left" ;(
Running - rarely unless they have a dog that needs moving or they're taking up too much space on the trail, or they're little old ladies whom I don't want to spook.
I will use it in a race or training if the lane is tight and/or I perceive the person in front of me is not holding a straight line. Usually you can tell if they are all over the place or not paying attention, then I shout it out. If they are holding a good line, I will usually stalk for a bit (recon the enemy) and then cruise by. Once in awhile it will PI$$ them off and then they come cruising by me… so then I will play cat-and-mouse for awhile for fun if I can match/beat their pace.
Chris McCormack was in the very first tri that I did (he was doing the Half I was doing the Oly). He came flying by me, he did say “MAC� as he left me in the dust.
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"MAC"? I've never heard that one...
I almost always use it while riding especially on our multipurpose trail that is shared by runners and cyclists, people walking dogs etc. As a runner on the same trail I like to hear it so I know to move over or pay more attention when running with my husband and girlfriend.
The road is a little bit different, but on the trail its common courtesy.
I guess he wanted me to know who was flying by.
Of course at that point I was just trying to breathe and keep my heart in my chest.
So he might have said:
“Hey mate get the $%# out of the way, I have shrimp on the barbie and I am late…don’t you know who I am? This is Chris McCormack�.
And all I heard in my oxygen deprived state was MACK. ;)
- T
ahh... heh. :rolleyes:
I guess he wanted me to know who was flying by.
Of course at that point I was just trying to breathe and keep my heart in my chest.
So he might have said:
“Hey mate get the $%# out of the way, I have shrimp on the barbie and I am late…don’t you know who I am? This is Chris McCormack�.
And all I heard in my oxygen deprived state was MACK. ;)
- T
Yes but he passed YOU which means you had a lead, even if for a short time :)
Yes but he passed YOU which means you had a lead, even if for a short time :)
Not even close. He was on lap 2 and I had just started lap 1.
- T
Almost always when on the bike for training rides - as I ride on my own, they wouldn't know I was there and especially if on a bike trail. It is fun on a training ride picking someone off, the "recon" is good - want to size 'em up and then pass 'em strong. Fun when they try to reciprocate - get some race simulation going.
Seldom during a race. Usually only when the race directors have the longer course ending with the short course and you come flying up on some fat wheeled bike plodding along. Always thought that was a bad idea - guys doing 22+ closing on others doing maybe 12.
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Not even close. He was on lap 2 and I had just started lap 1.
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oh...ok, I tried :)
I usually say hello or good morning to runners and walkers just so they know I'm there. Even if I don't think they will veer into my path. In training, I usually don't say it unless I'm passing in a high traffic area.
I haven't had a chance to say it in racing much. But I did thoroughly enjoy saying it a couple of times in the last race. Especially when she never got to say it back. :D
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SCREAM "on your left"
its better to be rude and safe
then be proper and in a crash
I always yell it out especially with runners/joggers on a trail. Unfortunately, one walker almost hit me in the face when she stuck out her hand to acknowledge that she heard me. Reminder to runners: don't extend your arm out to the left when a biker yells "On Your Left".
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It depends...
While Running sometimes the trail can get pretty crowded so I do use "Por la Izquierda"...
When ridding actually I just give myself enough room and make my move...
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He came flying by me, he did say “MAC� as he left me in the dust.
I had several similar situations. None with any pro's like Macca, but several with people just down right yelling and they are approaching. usually it was the really fast guys contending for the overall victory and it was directed towards the extreme newbie who was riding as far leftas possible and going... oh maybe 13 mph. It is pretty funny to listen to and then watch these dudes fly on by. Now, I wish I were one of the guys yelling like mad at slow people. Hopefully, I will live to see that day.
I almost always say "on your left".....up here I find a lot of people in lala land and using a cell phone. I believe in "better safe than sorry"....
Yeah .. so you're that guy!
Seriously though. I yell "on your left" to EVERYONE. I get horse riding along the lakeshore here in Chicago. Call it out with enough time so the person can look around, determine where you are, and move out of the way if needed. Everyone appreciates a little warning.
Calling it out 2 seconds before you buzz by at 26mph two inches from their shoulder may not be as warmly received.
I ride on some crowded pathways though.
“Hey mate get the $%# out of the way, I have shrimp on the barbie and I am late…
Can you please translate that?
Who needs a man when you have a Kuota Kalibur to wrap your legs around.
Can you please translate that?
FOSTERS.....
It's Austrailan for your slow.
FOSTERS.....It's Austrailan for your slow.
Right! Nick, I mean the Barbie and shrimp part.
Who needs a man when you have a Kuota Kalibur to wrap your legs around.
I always say some kind of warning/hello/hold-your-line/don't move/whistle.
With bikies, "On your Left" or "Hold your line" ...with runners too.
With walkers and dog walkers and bladers I'll whistle from a distance and then say on your left or chat em up as I get near...most people who frequent bike paths,towpaths and such usually know what to do. For people walking with unpredictable ankle biters I yell and howl and and make all kinds of noise...the last thing I want to do is nail a child at 20 mph.
For the cranked up ipod wearing set...just whip past and hope for the best!
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Right! Nick, I mean the Barbie and shrimp part.
Barbie = bbq, not the doll :)
I don't usually say "on your left" because I've found that people will look, and veer, right into me. I almost always yell some variation on "coming up behind you". I find that most people will jump to the right.
The topic reminds me of my first triathlon when I nearly took out the Women's overall winner on the bike. I was on a lonely stretch of the road and thought no one was behind me and was getting ready to pull a water bottle (which usually causes me to drift left). Right then she pulls past me on the left, just a few inches away. Had I gone for the water a second sooner I think there is a good chance we would have collided.
It makes me think it is a good idea to give an advanced warning or give yourself room to manuver.
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Last August during IMC, I came down out of the Yellow Lake hill at 86kph in the aero bars. I rounded a bend to find two women riding side by side - one of them was nearly at the centre line.
I didn't want to shoot the gap in case she veered right to get closer to her pal.
I shouted, "On your left!" loudly, twice and then.. I was by her - on the left.
She hadn't moved an inch and I swear we brushed shoulders as my left pedal knocked over an orange pylon. An extra coat of paint and we'd never have seen the run course.
yeah, I yell, "on your left!" every time there's a need.
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I shouted, "On your left!" loudly, twice and then.. I was by her - on the left.
She hadn't moved an inch and I swear we brushed shoulders as my left pedal knocked over an orange pylon. An extra coat of paint and we'd never have seen the run course.
That's hpw the stupid TIT people were at Disney. Several groups of em, on the ride and run. ARGH!!!
I always say "on the left" of something to left the person ahead know I am coming.
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I guess he wanted me to know who was flying by.
Of course at that point I was just trying to breathe and keep my heart in my chest.
So he might have said:
“Hey mate get the $%# out of the way, I have shrimp on the barbie and I am late…don’t you know who I am? This is Chris McCormack�.
And all I heard in my oxygen deprived state was MACK. ;)
- T
I think BBB's idea of a "snot rocket" might have been a good choice.
I do the "on you left' if they don't see you coming, but i don't do it to scare the crap out of anyone. Just loud enough for them to hear you.
Nothing to it, but to do it
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yes when it's a situation where safety is at stake. no when you're just trying to be cool.
although, the challenge is when you get someone who just won't give it up (although they should) :mad: . then it's a matter of perspective as we all have our unique goals and some folks can use a reality check from time to time. most of us who have been around for a while have run in to the person who is just out in another realm and no matter what won't budge.
I'm putting this older thread out of the vault, because I have a funny memory about it.
Well, I'm German and English is a foreign language to me and I first assumed "On your Left" would tell me to go to the Left.:eek:
Maybe it's because here in Germany most folks only shout "Right !" when passing in a race, means to stay or go on the Right.
Luckily I got it before the race ;)
I say "Hello" when about 10 meters away. If it's a bikie...On your left. A runner, on your left...people with dogs and baby carriages...I talk to. "Hello...great day Huh?" Passing on your left (or right).
Many times recently though...the runners are wearing headphones and NEVER hear me. I could have a bloody claxon and they wouldn't get it...
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I'm putting this older thread out of the vault, because I have a funny memory about it.
Well, I'm German and English is a foreign language to me and I first assumed "On your Left" would tell me to go to the Left.:eek:
Maybe it's because here in Germany most folks only shout "Right !" when passing in a race, means to stay or go on the Right.
Luckily I got it before the race ;)
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It's a common courtesy, really. Even if there is a lot of space. The last thing you or the other person need is injury. Maybe think of it that way. Saying it could keep you in your season. :) I try to say it as often as I remember to.
I personally appreciate it when it's said. Most of the time I hear them before they get to me, but there are times when I'm in lala land and they surprise me. :eek:
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I almost always say it. One my the nice routes in my area is the Prairie Trail/Fox River Trail --- something like 52 miles from the Illinois/Wisconsin stateline, south almost to Joliet. Cyclists share the trail with runners and walkers (though surprisingly few), and you never know when someone is going to carelessly veer to the left.I shout it out plenty of time in advance, and am ready to brake if I don't see a reaction.
Like TheHitman, I have to say it quite frequently, as there are usually tons of bikers (on road bikes and cruisers), rollerbladers, pedestrians, etc. on the bike path and even when in the bike lane on the road I will pass someone at least once or twice during any given ride.
I used to say "on your left" all the time, but have found that 'passing' sometimes works better, as more people understand it without having to turn around and look at you
Used to use on your left. I still do a bit when running. Nowdays while I'm biking I usually use "passing" or something similar. I've had too many people swerve left to look left once they heard "left", before it really processed.
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when i ride on the paved trails in the area (namely Birk-Gilman) i say "on your left." my first tri was a sprint, i said "on your left" every time i passed, i was so horse by the end of the bike leg my throat was killing me for the run. i don't bother with yelling anything during races now. Xterras are a different beast all together though. not a lot of room to pass on single track, there you need to call out and let the person know you want to pass when it is safe.
Always say it. It's used for safety, and yell it out at the back of the rider, NOT as you are passing as this will scare the rider. I typically say "on your left" followed by a "good morning" as I'm passing the rider.















What is your feeling on saying 'On Your Left' when you pass someone? I never say it except during races and then only when passing is tight. I've said it a few times during training rides and it seems to freak people out more than it helps. Just curious what everyone else thinks.
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