What Tire to buy?
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Hotice posted 3 years ago.
I beed using the Michelin Pro2 race and I love it. Let me send you the web link.
http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=2092004115326&codePage=2092004115326_10092004141805&lang=EN
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CAcyclingFAN posted 3 years ago.
I’m a Michelin man myself. Not a big marshmallowy looking thing but a dedicated Pro2 Race fan. They are the best cornering tires I’ve used and they seem very fast.
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CAcyclingFAN posted 3 years ago.
Oh, I should also mention that I use the Michelins mostly for events because they are kinda pricey. REI has a decent tire called the Serfas Seca for 15 bucks that I use for most all of my foundation training rides. If you have two sets of rims I would recommend the Secas for trainers. You can order or read about them on their website. This like will take you to the tires. - http://www.rei.com/online/store/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=4500883&storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1&seq=11&sort=1
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JamieM posted 3 years ago.
I agree on the Michelins. Great tires though they are expensive. I use them for races and some training. I have Hutchinson Fusions that were half the price of the Michelins that I use for general training rides and indoor workouts and they are also a good tire at a good price.
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TBRAVO posted 3 years ago.
Thanks everyone for the advice. Has anyone tried the Tufo tires? (basically a tubular tire for a clincher rim) Kinda pricey but maybe worth the expense?
- T
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Hotice posted 3 years ago.
I just got a new set of wheels Zipp 606 and I do want to try the Tufo tires but I cant find anyone local that use it.
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brittda posted 3 years ago.
I use the Michelin Pro race 2 as well, really like them. You guys switch them out for training?? Never thought about that. Perhaps that would save me from ruining a pair on my trainer :rolleyes:
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CAcyclingFAN posted 3 years ago.
brittda wrote:
I use the Michelin Pro race 2 as well, really like them. You guys switch them out for training?? Never thought about that. Perhaps that would save me from ruining a pair on my trainer :rolleyes:
Brittda -
Yeah, I use two sets of tires, however I do it on two sets of rims. I do buy cheaper tires for training to save a little money but I do the two set thing more to always have tires with low miles on race day. I probably wouldn’t recommend switching tires back and forth between one set of rims unless you are really careful because you can expose yourself to pinch flats on race day. The last race I did I saw about 6 people fixing flats within the first 3 miles and I wouldn’t be surprised if they either had new tires or ones they had just swapped out.
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brittda posted 3 years ago.
CAcyclingFAN- Thanks for the tip. Think I will go get another set of rims. That is a great idea, then I wont kill the good tires (HELLO they are like buying car tires...)!
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EricbCook posted 3 years ago.
Hey I am with you I got the michelin's too! I had Kend's trying to be cheap and was going through tubes and tires like gatorade, bought the Michelin's been riding them ever since! They rock!
Keep on Tri-ing
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johnj919 posted 3 years ago.
Vredestein Fortezza Tricomps. Love 'em. Wouldn't ride anything else. ....unless it was free, of course.
~John
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RV posted 3 years ago.
Another vote for the Michelin Pro race 2. Have been very durable. Though somewhat expensive. Very responsive.
I train and race on the same set. - Save the old ones for the trainer .
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TBRAVO posted 3 years ago.
Thanks everyone for the advice.
I went with the Michelin Pro 2 race.
They seem great so far, better grip than my Vittoria Open Corsa EVO CX.
They feel a little slower, but that might be a mental thing as I went with the 23C instead of the 20C.
I read somewhere that cleaning your tires after you ride with soap/water will extend the life of the tire.
Does anyone subscribe to this ritual and does it help?
Thanks, T
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RV posted 3 years ago.
Why the 23's?
20's are better - faster.
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TBRAVO posted 3 years ago.
I let the guy at the bike shop talk me into the 23's. Said they would last longer as I weigh around 195lbs. Should have went with the 20's it's going to be messing with my head now. Maybe I can sell the 23's and buy some 20's online. :(
- T
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THE FRENCHY posted 3 years ago.
I' m french and sometimes buy michelin, but the best ones are conti.gp 3000!(I've almost tried all brands)
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Dkidd posted 3 years ago.
you'll do fine with 23's. It's all in your head.
If it messes with your head that much use thge 23's for training and get some 20's for racing.
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TBRAVO posted 3 years ago.
Thanks. My average MPH has been about the same, so it must be in my head. The Michelins ride a lot smoother than my Vittoria's so maybe that's why I think they are slower. It would be great to buy an extra pair of 20s for racing but hard to justify the expense.
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CAcyclingFAN posted 3 years ago.
Does someone have a study that shows 20's are faster than 23's? I'd be interested in reading one.
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TBRAVO posted 3 years ago.
Geez. I thought you guys would have that info! I guess I will have to ask some of my roadie friends. In theory they should weigh more and in some case more rubber in contact with the road than a 20? (or not?). :rolleyes: Where's BBB when you need him?
- T
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CAcyclingFAN posted 3 years ago.
OK, I guess I was being a little lazy but I was curious if anyone had anything else. Here is in excerpt from High-Tech Cycling by Edmund R. Burke, PhD
The Effect of Tire Width-
“The width of tires should be about equal to the width of the rim for minimum aerodynamic drag. Air should flow smoothly around the tire and the rim. If the tire is wider it causes flow separation and turbulence, raising the drag. The wider the tire the higher the aerodynamic drag. Some racers put a smooth bead of silicon caulking between the tire and the rim to improve the flow. Since tire width makes little difference in rolling resistance, there is no advantage to using wide tires in time trialing or road racing.�
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bluebirdbiker posted 3 years ago.
Guys, quickly cause I have to go to bed:
*20mm bonce more b/c designed for velodrome. Rocks and pebbles on the road with a 20mm make you go slower.
*rolling resistance between 20 and 23's are too small to notice foget it!
* high press 23mm tires are faster than low pressure 23mm. Low prss 23mm are too soft and you stick to road more thus =slower. High press 23mm better (less) resistence for rolling
*thinner tires (i.e 20mm) require more attention, though, they're more susceptible to increased rolling resistance if they're not inflated to a sufficient pressure
On 20mm vs 23mm tires... The 20s have two disadvantages (for a given make/model):
*20mm will not corner as well (this has to do with the smaller cross section).
*20mm pinch flat easier.
*The 20mm accelerate quicker
*They roll a little faster for a given make/model but this depends on the surface that is to say that rougher surfaces hinder speed on a 20mm tire.
*For aero ability of 20mm tires rim cross section has a lot to do with the aero efficiency and a 20mm tire may expose the rim more and increase drag where as a fatter tire will overlap the wide rim and make it faster
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trainDaBrain posted 3 years ago.
I've been riding Continentals exclusively (commuter and racer) but mostly because that's what the LBS carries. I'm open to new treads if people are hot about them. The Conti's have been nice and durable.
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TBRAVO posted 3 years ago.
Wow. Thanks for the info guys. I knew you would have the answers!
- T
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TriTimKC posted 3 years ago.
Just got the new Continetal Grand Prix 4000's and they are awesome!
Smooth as silk.
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Dkidd posted 3 years ago.
I buy the cheapest pair of tires I can find for training, right now a Conti Grand Prix $12-$14/each, and use some Mr. tuffy inserts/strips. Then i have a nice pair of tires that i ride once before the race and do races on. This saves me tons of money on tires and tubes and on race day the tires with out the Mr. Tuffy inserts feel so light!!
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TBRAVO posted 3 years ago.
Hmmm. That’s not a bad idea. I could put on my old heavy rims, and some of those huge thorn resistant tubes and some cheapo tires to train. Then switch back to the light stuff for a race. Then I could ride like LA (I wish). Only problem is I ride with my roadie friends on Saturdays and it usually gets pretty competitive to stay up at the front of the group (I need all the help I can get). Maybe I could just swap them back and forth. Weekday setup and Saturday setup…yea that’s the ticket…
- T
OK my beloved Vittoria Open Corsa EVO CX tires finally need replacing. They have about 1500 miles on them and were doing great until I had to come to an emergency sideways sliding stop last Friday to avoid a car that decided to turn in front of me. Now a big chunk of the tire is gone and I can see the guts. Not fun to ride with a big piece of your tire gone (kinda bumpy). The question is what tire should I go with to replace? I really like the Vittoria Open Corsa’s as they have given me zero problems.
What does everyone else out there like to ride or suggest I buy? Michelin? Vredestein?
My wheels are Mavic Ksyrium SL clincher 700.
Thanks, T :cool: