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If you could pick a place to live in the US, where would it be? No restrictions, but a good area for tri training is a must, as is a good, medium sized town to live in (near) would be nice...airport is important, as I will be traveling quite a bit for work. Right now the list is:

Phoenix
Vegas
Austin
Portland
Seattle
Tampa
San Diego

not necessarily in that order

Thoughts?

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Tamara posted 3 years ago.

If you've never seen it before, and are bored at work today, try findyourspot.com for a fun way to determine the "best" place in the country for you!

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jennk posted 3 years ago.

I would also consider the San Francisco Bay area, the Peninsula has some great places (Palo Alto, Los Altos, Mountain View). The weather is perfect almost all year, you are close to the ocean or mountains, and you have your pick of 3 major airports (Oakland, San Fran, San Jose).

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christri25 posted 3 years ago.

if you live in the south currently and are used to the heat you may be miserable any place north ... i would be , but i am sure its personal, maybe you like the cold. i would rule out Portland
and Seattle. it rains a lot from what i hear and stats probably back that up.

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Triguy98 posted 3 years ago.

San Diego or outside of Denver (I know, not on your list) are my top 2. Tampa sucks. Stay away.

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caroline24 posted 3 years ago.

My list from fineyourspot.com was pretty much the same as the list I would make up for myself with some exceptions. The top cities are all cities I've wanted to try out:
portland (OR and ME), eugene, bend, tacoma, seattle, denver and boston (I'm here now and LOVE it).

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craigvu posted 3 years ago.

I found the "findyourspot" list to be pretty helpful, but it seemed limited somewhat. I like the Denver idea, along with the Bay Area...anyone spent time in Sacramento? Have to be some good mountains there for climbing...something we definitely lack in Savannah. Good call on the temp in Portland and Seattle, but i've heard great things about the area...all from natives though, so they're most certainly biased.

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outdoorgirl posted 3 years ago.

I live in Orange County CA 1/2 way between San Diego and LA. Great area. San Diego is too far away from the mountains but awesome for training. We almost moved to Portland OR but it does rain far too much but very pretty. My mom lived in Colorado Springs (where the Olympic Training Center is) and it was awesome! Close to Denver...but not as pricy as Boulder. I love Colorado...second best to CA.

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Jeyradan posted 3 years ago.

Well, I was going to say Tampa, but I think Triguy's pretty convincing. So, the Bay Area, then.

P.S. Where the heck is Salisbury, Maryland? And for goodness' sakes, why are so many of my top spots in Arkansas?!

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4loren posted 3 years ago.

What about Tucson? In my opinion Phoenix is too large and there are too many Hummers (danger during biking). There is a large airport in Tucson and the temps stay about 10 degrees cooler during the summer too.
There are some very good biking groups in the area and the Triathlon community is expanding every year. Good links for the area:

Tucson Racing
Tritucson Races
and TriSports.com is based there

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Canadian Tri posted 3 years ago.

Somewhere with a lot of sun and big mountains to climb!

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brittda posted 3 years ago.

Personally I like the Seattle area (for obvious reasons) its never too hot or too cold. I can pretty much count on running in shorts most of the winter (only switch to long tights when it's 40 and below, but thats just me). Lots of trails for running, and cycling lanes as well as back roads once you get out of the city. Once in a while I wish for more "summer heat" and think of Phoenix ..since I lived there years ago. There are some great places to run/ride along the canals there as well.

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tcrunner07 posted 3 years ago.

austin...i use to live there...has a few hills...lance use to live and train there...its a beautiful place...and oppsed to fl where i live now..no gators n the lakes

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triumph posted 3 years ago.

I've got to speak up for Austin, where, BTW, Lance still lives and trains. He's building a house about a mile from my house, so I've been thrilled twice by the site of him hammering down the street. To see his focus and determination up close and in person is awe-inspiring.

Austin is an outdoor paradise (okay, IF you can take the heat/humidity doublethreat). It's got a good-sized competitive community because of our wealth of training areas. You've got many many mountain bike possibilities; lots of flats and rolling hills for road bikes; the shady, gravelled and always busy 10-mile Town Lake trail (shortest loop is 3 miles); 68 degree Barton Springs for chilly dips year 'round, plus numerous masters' programs. The possibilities for training are truly bountiful and mostly beautiful.

And then there's the music. . .and the theatres. . .and more music. . .and the galleries. . .and the university. . .and the cool vibe. . .and many great gym facilities. . .and the fairly accessible international airport. . .and yet more music. Of course, there's also the high property taxes close to town and the legislature every two years, but, I suppose we can't have it ALL the way we want it.

Now I'm gonna go to 'findyourspot' to see if I'm living where I should be living!

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panchotri posted 3 years ago.

San Francisco and the East Bay are beautiful places to train, but is getting excessively desirable to live here that cost of living is up the roof. When my daughter goes to college, 6 years from now, we will moving to a place where I can train most of the time and not worry for mortgage payments, property taxes and gas.
So far my only option is Arizona: tranquility for a fast paced triathle.

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JamieM posted 3 years ago.

Jeyradan wrote:

P.S. Where the heck is Salisbury, Maryland?

Salisbury is on the Eastern Shore about an hour from the Chesapeake and less than an hour from the beach (good for swim training either way). I went to school there and now live about an hour north in Delaware. Not a bad place to be, lot's of nice long country roads to train on. And there is an ironman qualifier (Blackwater Eagleman) less than an hour away. And Salisbury is home to one of the flattest centuries around. Biggest hill is the bridge to the beach rest stop.

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jmcglos posted 3 years ago.

My list from findyourspot.com said #1 is Las Vegas (not sure why?), #2 Honolulu (yeah!) and #3 San Diego. Think I might have to move soon - San Diego's sounding pretty good right now! But really, DC is not a bad place to train - lots of bike trails that link through the city and suburbs (If you can get out when the weekend warriors aren't lurking about), and it's right out my front door too. And in the winter, the trails are deserted. I also work across the street from the C&O canal towpath that's great for running and good on the knees. I just wish we had warmer winters like San Diego!

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triumph posted 3 years ago.

Okay, Craigvu, after 3 whole days (!) of feedback and contemplation, your neighbors want to know: where are you considering moving NOW? And. . .does anyone else want to move now that this discussion has come up?

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craigvu posted 3 years ago.

I would love to move. Savannah is an alright place, but the rides are painfully boring without any real hills. Beach runs are nice to mix things up a bit, and I think i would miss those if I moved inland somewhere. We have a great group here that I train with, so it would be sad to leave them, but maybe I could recruit a couple to make the trek with me. Top on the list is Austin, TX. Can't go wrong there i don't think, and now it's all a matter of making work pay for me to move there...we'll see how it goes. Second would probably be the Bay Area...just have to figure out how to try and afford it...big $$$ for everything there. Will keep y'all updated if the move does happen.

Coincidentally, my first race is this Saturday...Jacksonville Sprint. Will give a race report after I get back.

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Jeyradan posted 3 years ago.

I'd like to move... I can only stand eight months of winter for so long!

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jeslol posted 3 years ago.

I'd go back to WY in heatbeat. Not that there's anything wrong with Los Alamos, NM. It has a great triathlon community, easy to get your green chile fix, Albuquerque has a great airport (1.5hr drive), and was deemed the best place in America to live according to MSNBC. Ah...I should also add that it's great altitude training...~7200ft.

The one thing I didn't like about findyourspot.com is that it doesn't take into account your profession. Let's face it...that's usually what dictates where you live.

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rcortesi posted 3 years ago.

Where to live for triathlons?

Hawaii. You can do them year round, and they are never more than an hour away (unless you want to go to one of the other islands).

Did I mention no winter.

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Stacey posted 3 years ago.

Hey -- check out Outside Magazine this month .. .they just did a special on the 18 best towns to live in right now. My pick would be denver/boulder ... also named the healthiest city in the United States (I think -- someone correct me if I'm wrong). I'm headed to Colorado in a couple of years if all goes well. I can't wait to get out of the city!

Good luck! I would love to be able to choose a relocation like that!

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virturace posted 3 years ago.

Jeyradan - if you can stand 9 months of summer, then Phoenix is the place to be ;)

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Jeyradan posted 3 years ago.

virturace wrote:
Jeyradan - if you can stand 9 months of summer, then Phoenix is the place to be ;)

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Scout posted 2 years ago.

Hey Virturace!

Can you tell me a bit more about training in Arizona? Are Tucson and Arizona flat? I love my hills and I would like to have that option...
What do you do for open water swimming?

I checked out your business website...Awesome!

Thanks for any info you can provide...

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trimedic posted 2 years ago.

Colorado Springs, CO!!!! That is one of the nicest larger cities that still gives you the smaller town feel. Close to Denver and winter truly is mild compared to a Montana winter, so it's not a factor. As far as training goes I just have to say "Duh"!!! :)

Good luck with your decision.

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trimedic posted 2 years ago.

:eek: Wyoming????? You are insane! I don't know that I could or would want to live any where in Wyoming. :) This is coming from someone who was born and raised in Montana.

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virturace posted 2 years ago.

Scout -

There's nothing flat about AZ. Tucson is probably your truer endurance community. With a boatload of olympian athletes training at the u of a, there's always a good group ride to get in. Mt. Lemon is one of the best climbs in the southwest - Lance does some training down (up) there.

I live in Phoenix (Chandler specifically). I live near South Mountain which has some of the better natural mountain bike courses in the West. Yes, it's hot in the summer time (Tucson is about 10 degrees cooler), but I did a tri this weekend (Soma Quarterman on Oct 30) and it was in the mid-80s. You just can't beat that for late fall races!

Also, about 2 hours North is Flagstaff which is about 6000 feet and has some great skiing, mountain/road biking with plenty of altitude and pitch.

Open water swims are great in Tempe (about 10 minutes from me). This is where Ironman AZ is held. It is very accessible for races - they have 12-15 splash and dash events plus about a half dozen triathlons each year. So, without ever even *having* to get in your car, you could hit around 20 races in a year in your backyard.

You're close enough to Vegas, Rocky Point, SoCal, and NoCal to catch some of the better other races (Alcatraz, Silverman, L.A. Tri, Shrimpman, etc).

Some say that Phx is the fastest growing area for Tri/Multisport. I must say that it shows.

Oh, and Dave and Jeremy at DCB Extreme Adventures (Splash and Dash Series), also have I believe 4 Fat Tire/Offroad triathlons at Tempe Town Lake if you're into the XTerra stuff.

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trimedic posted 2 years ago.

Jeyradan, I complete get where you are coming from. Montana is not as tri friendly as I would like three months of summer is just not enough. At least if I moved to CO I would have more mild temps and not has much snow. That I could handle.

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Scout posted 2 years ago.

How accessible is Tempe from the Tuscon area? I have to have my open water swims... ;)

I really appreciate your input...I am very psyched about the potential to live there! If you had your choice, where in Arizona would you live? It sounds like you are already in an ideal spot...

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virturace posted 2 years ago.

Think of AZ as having 3 main islands - Tucson, Phoenix, Flagstaff (from South to North).

Tucson is about 90 miles from the South end of Phoenix (Chandler, Gilbert, Tempe), and Flagstaff is about 200 miles from the North end of Phoenix (Glendale, Desert Ridge).

Tucson to Phoenix is a very doable commute for races. It will take you about 90 minutes or so to get from the North end of Tucson (IMO the nice part) into downtown Tempe.

I have friends who do that, in fact.

I can and have chosen to live in the South East valley. I'm currently in Chandler, but have lived in and LOVE Ahwatukee which sits at the South base of South Mountain and runs along its foothills. I'm not a big fan of Tucson overall, although there are som beautiful areas and the housing prices are considerably less than Metro Phoenix.

I should explain, however, that my judgement of Tucson is more out of a life-long feud with the u of a (I'm a Sun Devil) which has fueled a deep-seeded hatret for the "Truck Stop" which is what we in my family call Tucson. - I feel like I needed to add that disclaimer. I have heard, however, that you CAN find homes with indoor plumbing in Tucson these days. :)

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ryan16 posted 2 years ago.

I love these threads! Personally I think the best place in the country to train is Sonoma County, CA also known as the wine country about 1 hr. north of San Francisco. Plenty of hills, lots of flats, you have your lakes near bye and the coast is only 30 min. away. Summer isnt to hot and winter isnt to cold you get the best of all the worlds. Just my opinion.

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outexan posted 2 years ago.

Austin is the coolest city in the world bar none....

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Scout posted 2 years ago.

You're an honest man Virtu! It all sounds great...Tempe is really attractive due to the university and law school...Is Ahwatukee Foothills a planned community? Your post made me very curious. I have to do a search on Chandler too...
Thanks for all the help!

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TBRAVO posted 2 years ago.

The South East Valley.... NOOOO!!!!! :eek:
Come on Virturace Scottsdale is where it's at.
Lifestyles of the rich and famous baby...all those snooty people running me off the road with their Hummers and Mercedes. Getting to ride by all those multi million dollar homes and luxury golf courses. Where else can you go on a sixty mile GABA ride and then get a gourmet meal at AJ's afterward? :cool:
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Scout posted 2 years ago.

Geez, TB, sharing the road with multiple Hummers?? Sounds attractive! :D

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TBRAVO posted 2 years ago.

It’s really fun when you see some high-school student driving her BMW to school while chatting on her cell phone, putting on makeup and drinking a Starbucks. HELLO…I am trying to ride my bike here! Seriously there are some really great places to train (and live) in the Phoenix area. There are approx. 15-20 Tri’s/Du's per year in AZ including the IMAZ and the SOMA 1/2 as well as a few Xterra races. Plus in the summer we have no daylight savings so the sun comes up really early. You can get a major workout in before most people are out of bed (except construction workers and landscape crews).
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Scout posted 2 years ago.

Excellent! Thanks T! I forgot about the daylight savings issue...And I am definitely into early morning workouts. We hope to take a trip out sometime next year to start checking out different communities...Virturace mentioned Ahwatukee. Is it a town?

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bluebirdbiker posted 2 years ago.

na, guys. Let me tell you this. If you want to learn to swim, really well, then Vancouver is the place to be. From basically October to March you can swim in the streets AND train for biking and running all year long outside when it's not raining too. Jeyradan knows what I mean.
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TBRAVO posted 2 years ago.

I think Ahwatukee is a planned community right next to South Mountain (South part of Phx).
I have always lived in the North Valley myself, Scottsdale, Paradise Valley, etc.
If you go to google maps and put in Phoenix Arizona, you will get a good idea of the layout.
Here is a link to a relocation guide that I found on one of the local newspaper websites.
http://www.azcentral.com/relocation/reloc_home.html
The really neat thing is that in the summer I can drive my jeep to the pool at lunch to get in a swim and leave my microwave dinner on the dash. When I am done with my workout, my lunch is cooked. :D
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virturace posted 2 years ago.

Great point on the car-is-oven factor of the Valley TB. Yes, Ahwatukee started as a small master plan for retirees and theres a few square miles in the North end of the town dedicated to that. The rest, however, is laid out across the foothills of South Mountain and goes back about 10-12 miles. It is land-locked on the North side by South Mountain and on the North by the Indian Reservation. You've really got to see it get it. Maybe I'll scrape up some Google maps of the area.

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TBRAVO posted 2 years ago.

Hey Virturace. Are you going to do the Tour De Tucson on 19-Nov?
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virturace posted 2 years ago.

No, I'm going to be in Miami with my family for the holiday. I am, however, doing the 60 miler in the morning (sat 11/05) from Tribe Multisport on McDowell and Scottsdale at 7:00 am. This will be my first with Kevin and gang from Tribe. I am sorely in need of improvement on the bike.

My season as far as racing is over until the Rock'n'Roll Half. I'm trying to go back to zero and lay down a really solid base of power before next season. I finished this year with the SOMA Quarterman.

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vollenda posted 2 years ago.

My sister and father live on the west side in beautiful Buckeye, AZ. :rolleyes: Where they live is just starting to get built up but it's not too bad yet. There's still a lot of open country road. I love running over there but haven't had a chance to take my bike over. One of these days, I'm going to have to move over there to be closer to my nieces and nephew.

Arizona is a great state, there's a lot of variety to the landscape and nature's beauty is in abundance as well. The photographer in me loves it as well. Can you tell I like it? :)

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Scout posted 2 years ago.

Thanks everyone for all of the great info...What are some other lakes (besides the Town Lake one) that allow open water swimming? Being from PA, I am use to hills and lakes...love 'em!
Near Chandler? Near Scottsdale? Thanks again!

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virturace posted 2 years ago.

In the North West Valley, there's Lake Pleasant. I did a tri there last month - beautiful setting.
In the North East Valley, there's Saguaro Lake.
In the East Valley, there's Canyon Lake.
I'm not too sure about Tucson.

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TBRAVO posted 2 years ago.

Just watch out for the bees at Lake Pleasant.
Don’t forget Bartlett Lake, 30 miles northeast of Phoenix.
Great bike ride too, about 65 miles roundtrip from my house.
Coming up from the lake is a monster 14 miler mostly uphill.
I thought the Carlos O’Brien’s Tri around Lake Pleasant was tough until I did Bartlett.
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PrinceofClydes posted 2 years ago.

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na, guys. Let me tell you this. If you want to learn to swim, really well, then Vancouver is the place to be. From basically October to March you can swim in the streets AND train for biking and running all year long outside when it's not raining too. Jeyradan knows what I mean.
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Yeh, I heard that! That's why I live in the Okanagan - it's really the northern extension of the Sonora Desert - v. little precipitation here!

Of course they had about ten years worth of rain in Louisiana & Florida last month, not high on my list of places I'd like to move to.

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