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MichaelJohn654 posted 3 years ago.
i was told that using a rubberband looped between the heels of your shoes and the frame works. it will keep your shoes in a horizontal position and the rubber band will break when you start pedaling.
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tri1on posted 3 years ago.
Well Im on the other side of transitions....I usually put my bike shoes ON in the transition and run with them until the mount point.....I cant tell you how many people I have jumped/ridden by during the transition to bike. Ive seen too many people fighting with their shoes to go back. The key is to get your shoes on quickly and as soon as you cross "the line" jump on your saddle with ass first and then clip in...you can always pedal without being clipped in to start
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craigvu posted 3 years ago.
ok, well I guess that poses an interesting question: Who keeps the shoes on the bike, and who puts their shoes on in transition, then gets on the bike? I realize it's personal preference, but I see all the ITU riders with their shoes on the bike...it's also what I see posted in all of the "how to get through transitions faster" articles. Thoughts?
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tri1on posted 3 years ago.
i guess it really comes down to what you practice...I have never gone the shoe clipped in route, but it could very well be faster...if you practice it! For me it takes less time to put my feet in the shoes in the transition than to put them in on the bike...but then again ive never tried it on the bike...so maybe im missing something
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Triguy98 posted 3 years ago.
http://www.lwcoaching.com/library/cyclocrossmountdismount.htm
Rubberband those shoes and keep your feet on top of em untill they go in. Lots of fun to practice, it really builds your bike handling confidence.
Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.
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inlovewithcerve posted 3 years ago.
I am going to train the jumping part in my garden. Grass does not hurt as much as asphalt does...
Hopefully I am not too scared to jump. I'll have to think of the second it is going to save me.
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craigvu posted 3 years ago.
Triguy,
Thanks for the website there. Good info all around. I think I've just got to keep practicing (with running shoes on this time), and rubber band the pedals to the frame. I just hate seeing my new bike on the ground. ugh.
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Triguy98 posted 3 years ago.
I know that feeling. The second time I took my bike out for a ride, i took it off the bike rack when i got home and noticed this big ole gouge in my paint...from a bolt on the bike rack. the bolt had never given me problems before due to my other bikes size/ shape. I was fuming. I got a tube of RTV silicone sealant and liberally coated ALL exposed metal.
Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.
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BrettD58 posted 3 years ago.
To jump or not to jump? At a coaching continuing ed clinic I attended at USAT last year we saw a demonstration on how to teach the flying mount to juniors. Basically the rubberband or dental floss thing works for holding them flat, mount the inside foot first and swing the trailing leg over and begin pedaling with your feet on top of the pedals. It is also a good idea to have tri specific shoes also...I personally ride with regular cycling shoes so I don't do the flying mount but hey if you feel that it saves you time then go for it. It is generally a good idea to practice on grass also...a soccer or football field works well. Good Luck!!
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TriMaster posted 3 years ago.
Gee folks. I feel right at home here. Before the first tri in which I intended to try a flying mount,I read everything I could get my hands on. I purchased snazzy new Shimano TR 02 shoes with the wide, notched strap for easy entry on the fly, got a bag of rubber bands from Office Max, and set my bike up in a stand in my driveway. As my neighbors looked/laughed on in disbelief, I practiced 10-15 transitions by running a quick 400, pulling off my Brooks T4 racing flats with easy-lok laces, running with my Cervelo for about 100 m and then jumping on. After about 5 attempts, I thought I had the hang of it---until I got into the race...It was not a pretty, nor a fast, picture (transition). But I love that the dream of shaving a few seconds keeps me wondering: maybe I need more baby powder in my shoes, maybe I should mount with the inside foot first, maybe I need stronger rubberbands--or dental floss!
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Action posted 3 years ago.
unless the distance from T-1 to the bike mount is really a long one I put the shoes on first(you can run significantly faster bare foot), I agree with tri1on, I have made a point of watching who was around me out of the water and at T-1, I always seem to pass these same people as they struggle getting into their shoes, I can pull on a sock and properly put on a shoe in 3 sec. I would guess a smooth entry into a shoe on a moving bike is about 5 sec. , they run faster with their bike than me, I bike faster until they are in their shoes. Who wins ???? beats me, if you are into what is cool, clip your shoes in, do a hi- speed flying mount and hope you nail the landing !!!!!
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Great Greyhound posted 3 years ago.
I went the 'Put the Shoes on in T1' this last weekend, and it worked pretty well. I passed 2 guys just after the mount point, while they were trying to get into their shoes.
At T2, I left my cycling shoes on, instead of trying to get my feet out of them, and pedal the last couple of hundred yards with my feet on top of the shoes. I hammered right up to the Dismount Point, then I just ran through T2 with the cycling shoes, quick change, and I was off.
Both of my Transition times were below 1 minute, and I had the fastest T1 ever ( for me )...
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beads1985 posted 3 years ago.
In T1 I dip my feet in the bucket of water to clean off the debris from the swim
(sand, dirt, rocks, dog poop, etc), step on my carefully laid out towel, and then I put on my socks and bike shoes and run out of transition.
1. I don't worry about blisters from bare feet in the bike shoes or my running shoes when I switch over in T2.
2. When running out of T1 to the mount point the terrain can differ from race to race, maybe grass, maybe carpet, maybe dirt, maybe gravel with little bits of glass. :eek:
Then you put bare feet with debris on them into your bike shoe. How much time do you waste getting off the bike to get the rock out of your shoe and then getting back on the bike? :mad:
3. I don't worry about falling during a 'flying mount"
I am not going to win any of the events I do so the few second I might gain from a "flying mount" really don't matter. I have practiced my transition and I am pretty quick.
I also risk blisters, chafing, or any trauma from falling, So I am injury free to train and race another day, which is why I do this, so I can stay in good shape and enjoy the events.
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makscooter posted 3 years ago.
I wear socks; I'm going to put them on anyway for the run.
I'm not going to get my socks crudded up or wet. So on go the SIDI. Yes, it is awkward trying to run in SIDI T1's. But using the bike as the third point makes running more stabilised, and who cares if the cleats get worn out; they're only a coupla bucks to replace.
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RV posted 3 years ago.
As my swim keeps me middle of the pack going into T1 - it is often crowded exiting T1 - so putting the bike shoes on in T1 (sockless) makes sense for me. But dismounting on the run - leaving the shoes on the bike saves time.
RV
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PrinceofClydes posted 3 years ago.
I've watched a lot of Ironman distance Tris since 1980 something. I've never seen anyone try a flying mount.
I guess the risk of injury or humiliation out-weighs the benefit of possibly saving a few seconds when your race time is certain to be over 8 hours and possibly twice that.
It reminds me of the old westerns when the horse race began with the hero dashing out of the saloon and vaulting onto his horse to chase after the bad guys.
If you've got the nerve and the desire (and a cast-iron jock) go for it.
Has anyone ever seen a woman do it?
Once there were two bulls. The young bull spotted the cows in the next pasture and said to the old bull, "how about you and me jumping the fence and ravishing a few of them cows?" The old bull replied, "How about we saunter around through yonder gate and ravish all of 'em!"
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Anyone have advice on how to master the flying bike mount? Have messed around with having the shoes clipped in twice now, and both times have wiped out. Getting a bit gun shy. Don't know if it is a problem with the shoes getting dug in the ground, or if i'm just losing control of the bike, but the whole thing goes to hell real quick...pain. Thanks.