Good deal On Ultegra Bike 20spd?
you get what you pay for .. dont forget that ! a bike will last a while if you take care of it so its not a bad idea to spend the money on something nice. for about 1600 you can get a cervelo soloist. a much better bike.
Chris
``It's not as if I'm going to sit around and be a fat slob,''
Lance Armstrong 2005
If your worried your getting scammed the sight is legit. I'm currently riding the Windsor Fens(has 105s) that I bought off of BikesDirect. Great starting out bike. They're out of Arizona, where I understand they have a few stores.
But I've been riding mine since last August and have been more than pleased. The only thing that I worry about is warranty issues. I haven't had any(knock on wood), but I would have liked to have had a LBS and a reputable manufacturer behind my bike.
Like christri said though, you get what you pay for. As for me, $795 was all I could afford at the time and I have no regrets with my purchase. Might even do it again if I decide to upgrade, but that will be a few years down the road.
As for the Motobecane, I ran into some people at my first tri riding the same bike, from BikesDirect, and they said they loved theirs too.
Nope, I do not think this is a good deal.
Definitely the components seem nice, but: if the price is low, they must have saved some bucks somwhere. And this is, I guess, the frame.
The 10spd Dual is sold for 1699. Already with aero bars and even more important, with a tri geometry. The seat angle does not seem to be too steep on this bike.
The 9spd Dual is 1499 by the way, I ride it and this is really a great bike.
Cervelo is designing in the wind tunnel, not taking a bike there and seeing what happens.
These bikes are aero! (alright, I am not getting money from Vroomen nor White, I am just in love with my bike...)
And calculate this: How long will you be doing tri's? Is it worth the investment?
Look at it this way...
If that is what you have to spend, your getting great components for the bike, if the frame is not all that great, or you want to upgrade to an aero frame...then maybe a year down the road you can get a kickin frameset (800-1500) or more.. and then all of the sudden you have a bike worth 2,500 (maybe) with great components, then maybe two years from now, your present to yourself is a new set of HED 3 or Zipp wheels.. damn, youd be a blur then huh....
some of the framesets I have had my eye on - rideblue.com (the carbon/aluminum TT frameset rocks)
or maybe cervelo.com (the P3 frameset is like $1100)
the great thing about bicycles is you can always upgrade at your own pace...
example: if you get a great frame now, you will get lower end components - (not BAD, just lower end - i assume you would still be looking in the $1000 range) then later you will look to upgrade the compos instead of the frame, it works either way....
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I would head to your LBS and see whats around. I payed $1400 for my Trek E7 and I love it. The frame is solid and the 105 components are on the level. Motobecane gets mixed reviews on their quality, so I'd be scetchy about putting down money on one. I would rather pay for a great frame and upgrade the components.
Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.
yup , triguy has it right . the frame is the core. upgrade parts at your own pace.
Chris
``It's not as if I'm going to sit around and be a fat slob,''
Lance Armstrong 2005
If you have the cash, sometimes you'll save on components when purchasing a new bike. So, consider that before you buy. If upgrades are in the immediate future it might be wise to do it right off the bat.
Example: Cervelo retailed 2004 P3 @ $3599 for full Dura-Ace. You could have opted for Ultegra if you so desired, but the reduced price ($3000) will not make up the difference if you choose to upgrade later. A DA crank will run you $400 or so alone. You do the math!
[FONT=Impact]-Jason
"Fatigue will make cowards of us all!"
Trithis makes a great point but so does triguy. If money is an issue now then make sure you buy a bike with a great solid frame then you can always upgrade. Whatever you do make sure you make a wise decision and take your time youll waste more money if you buy a bike that you wont like in the future.
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Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right!
I am only going to do sprint tris / olympic distance at best so I don't need a full aero position / full aero bike
I also want a bike that I can ride on group rides.
I talked to the people at bikesdirect.com and they said to go to fujibikes.com and compare the $2370 Fuji Team SL to the Le Champion SL - cause they are 99% the same bike!
Sure enough - THEY ARE.
the only reason these bikes are priced so ridiculously low is NOT because the frame is junk BUT because bikesdirect is getting a direct promotional price from Motobecane USA.
they also have the Nemesis tri bike with Syntace bars, Ritchey, Velomax/easton wheels/Full Aero tubing/Dura Ace for $895 - another promo deal direct from the mfg.
Also another bike that is made by the same factory that makes bikes for Fuji - take a look at the Aloha on fujibikes.com - same bike as the Nemesis
I looked at that Cervelo and I don't see spending $600+ tax = approx $700 more for a bike with super heavy bottom of the line wheels, mish mash components and never was a fan of campy - which tend to be heavy stuff.
the local shop that sells Cervelo said they would sell me aero bars at 10% off MSRP + tax
Bikesdirect.com says they'll sell me aero bars at near their cost
Which ones should I get? Vision tech minis or some sort of profile bar?
thanks for any help
Who's finishing the assembly of the bike, and doing the fitting?
If its your local bike shop, and they're giving you a good price on the aerobars (P.D. Jammer GT?), why not go with them?
By the way, I saw the Motobecanes at bikesdirect.com last year. No one seemed to know anything about the company now using that name,and there were concerns about quality control and service. If you're willing to take a chance on ordering a bike sight unseen, though the internet, I agree that bike seems to be a great deal --- I just happened to run into a better deal locally.
thehitman
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I did more research about Motobecane and it seems they are VERY high quality bikes- researched Cervelo and they have high quality bikes too.
Bicycling magazine just recently did a review in December 2004 of the MOtobecane Immortal full carbon bike and they were totally blown away / impressed by the performance without consderation to the pricing value.
The cervelos have a good track record on the tour and tri circuits -
I don't doubt the high quality of the Le Champion sl bike - it is the SAME bike as the Fuji Team sl - same factory makes both just like the Nemesis and Aloha
The cervelo dealer wants $1600+tax for the 19lbs soloist centaur and bikesdirect wll sell me the Carbon GP profiles for $110 vs $160+ tax at the shop not to mention bikesdirect will get me a sigma FIT watch for $48 - shop price is $99 so that is a no brainer.
Oh yeah bikesdirect can get me a TYR Tri suit for $65 - shop wants $99+tax
I found several great links on bike fit online through google so I really don't need any help from the shop - certainly not worth the nearly $1,000 extra cost - not to me at least...
this is probably better off in another new post but - what do you guys think?
Tri suit or separates?
TYR any good or is Zoot better?
which one drys quicker and holds less water?
thanks for the info
:)
when you defend your decision like you do, why do you ask then??
One more thing to concern, the reputation a bike has. I never heard of Motobecane before, but Cervelo, that sounds like: The tour, baby!
In the end, all that counts is, that one loves his or her bike! I would not be willing to go out and train on a bike, which I do not love.
So have fun with your bike and stop thinking about the price. This will make your bike become an investment, something hurting your vault.
jmdesignz if you are trying to nickel and dime your way into triathlon good luck there fred. you get what you pay for like i stated above. you dont need top dollar comps to win. they are nice but your on your way into a VERY expensive sport. i expect to pay, pay and pay ... oh and pay. I love to ride, i love to train. i love to race and above all i love spending the money :) With all the intricacies of training and racing i dont have the time to shop around for 8 hours trying to save 5$. just spend all you can. Its good for the economy.
Chris
``It's not as if I'm going to sit around and be a fat slob,''
Lance Armstrong 2005
And the race entry fee's will become such a huge part of your spendings...
But christri, if you are able to save some bucks, why not do it?
By the way, does anyone have a clue why KED helmets are so expensive in the US? Here in germany I can buy them for 70€. US price is 134 $.
Jerseys as well. CSC team jersey will only cost me 50€, I saw it on a US shop for 90$.
Okay, the Euro is weak these days, but there is still a difference.
If i can get something online for $10 cheaper online than at my bike shop, I go to the shop. If I can get something online on clearance that will save me 50%, I'll buy online.
The problem with buying a bike online is mainly warranty issues and quality control. It sounds like our new friend JM is dazzled by the parts spec on the bike. Granted Ultrega 10 speed is nice, but I pass a lot of em with my 105 9 speed. Theyre not THAT much better.
Motobecane, the last I was in a shop that carried them, sold sub par bikes. If youd never had a bike before and didnt know what you were looking at, they certainly did look nice on the floor. And I am sure tey have some upper end models that have been ripped off/ rebadged from other manufacturers.
The point is that there are a great many wonderful bike shops in this country, and they all run on a tight profit margin. Support your shop by buying from them. You will get better service and probably a longer lifetime out of your bike by buying from them. The bike will be properly assembled to begin with, you get the free 30 day check up, and in my case, lifetime adjustments. Not really a beatable deal. AND when I walk in the door, they know me, know my bike, know its history, know what I plan to do with it. Feed a mechanic, shop local.
Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.
Well said, Triguy.
I was a long time thinking of opening my own bike shop. The idea was banned forever when I tried to sell a MET Stradivarius in another forum. They were insulting me for selling it at a price higher than the one on the net. I tried to sell it 30€ cheaper than in the shop where I bought and only worn once.
As long as there is the internet, bike shops will have a though live. But when I come to a shop, it is like coming home after a long vacation. The owner knows me, asks how the season is and so on.
For what its worth, I just got a bike last month from Bikes Direct and love it. I got the Mercier Serpens 20 with full Ultegra 20spd for $1,095. I have been out of racing for 15 years and decided this spring to get back into it and was going to get a bike from the local bike shop until a friend steered me to Bikes Direct. I was quite leary at first but then decided that the components were worth at least as much as I was paying for the whole bike so I gave it a shot. I'm pretty mechanically inclined so I had no trouble putting it together and have put about 500 miles in the last 3 weeks on it with no problems.
I am now starting to give Triathalons a shot and if I like it I have my eye on the Motobecane Nemesis. Overall I am happy with Bikes Direct.
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I have been shopping around for a nice Ultegra bike - found this online - seems like an incredible deal and have not found any better -
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/images/lsl05_med.jpg
It's $1095 with free shipping
also - what aero bars should I get?
I was looking at some visiontech mini tt bars - would those be good or the regular length ones?
what do you guys think?
Joe