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started by pernfilman on June 6, 2005

Looking in to getting some aero bars for my road bike and was curious to know what everyone here is running? Any brands to watch out for. I am looking to run a simple bolt on bar. narrow grip on the bars as i do not have much room. I was looking so far at the Carbon Ironman bars. Also in regards to bikes being in the subject title as well. Who here actually runs a Tri bike in competition?
I simply can not afford another bike therefore my road bike has to suffice for now. Also on the aero bars I am utilizing the factory shifter system.

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JamieM posted 2 years ago.

I ride a road bike with Vision TT clip ons. I've had them about a year, I like the position and they can be put as close together as you can tolerate.

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tcrunner07 posted 2 years ago.

i was just looking in this magazing and saw a pair of clip ons called Profile Design T2 Plus. They have the same look as the HED S extensions. The only problem is that i cant find then on Profiles site or anywhere else. They are 79.99. And the magazine is Performance Bicycle. their web site is performancebike.com . I am curently riding on the Profile Design Carbon X Wing aero bar that have the Carbon Stryke Ironman extensions. I dont like the that much. The angle iss too much and alot of people i talk to dont liek them either.

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RV posted 2 years ago.

I had the Profile Design Carbon Strykes as well - and also didn't care for them too much - I went to the Profile Design Sonic Stryke and am quite happy with these.

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Jeyradan posted 2 years ago.

Mine are Syntace, but I'm not sure I'd advise them as the best. Certainly among the lightest I've found, but not among the best. They came on the bike. Which, incidentally, is a triathlon-specific bike, and which I do ride in competition.

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BrettD58 posted 2 years ago.

Hed makes a good pair of clip ons and the Ironman ones are good too. As for tri vs road....I have both and only because I bought the tri bike first. I am doing the Great Floridian Iron distance this year on my road bike with clip ons. I use my tri bike for local TT races, Gulf Coast, basically anything flat as it doesn't climb well.

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Triguy98 posted 2 years ago.

If you are running a ROAD bike, you should use clip ons designed for road geometry OR make sure you set them to the correct length (really short.) I was appalled by the amount of incorrect aero bar set ups i saw this weekend (i was actively looking at people bikes.) There was one dude who was a good 7 inches shorter than me whose cockpit was LONGER.

Look at the Profile Jammer GT. Designed for road geometry. http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/techctr/basebar.html <-- good reading

I have a tri bike, no road. The only road stuff I do is all Tri related, so I am ok with it. I am gonna get a road bike soon for commuting.

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pernfilman posted 2 years ago.

Thanks everyone for the input. I am still looking. I think I am going to pass on the Ironman bars due to what every one has said about them. I am 5 '8' 165 lbs on a 54cm frame. I think the ironman bars would be too long and excess length and material is wasted weight and space.
I will let everyone know what i did decide on.
Thanks again everyone

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thehitman posted 2 years ago.

Triguy''s right.

Last week I put some yellow handlebar tape on the aero bars (P.D. Aerostryke) on my Giant TCR2. I noticed that my gloves are discoloring the tape where I grip the bars -- with at least 4 inches of bar to spare. I previously thought the Jammer GT aerobars might be too short, but they would be a perfect fit.

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BrianB posted 2 years ago.

I am having Profile CGTs installed on my road bike today actually...Can't wait. My IM friend told me to move my seat all the way up to put me in a more tri-bike position.

http://www.profile-design.com/product_pages/clip_on/clip_cgt.html

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pernfilman posted 2 years ago.

BrianB wrote:
I am having Profile CGTs installed on my road bike today actually...Can't wait. My IM friend told me to move my seat all the way up to put me in a more tri-bike position.

http://www.profile-design.com/product_pages/clip_on/clip_cgt.html

Brian keep us posted on your impression of the bars

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BrianB posted 2 years ago.

All,

Just went over to pick up my bike with the CGTs installed and I am changing to the Carbon Strike....The CGTs and too short (misleading in the picture on the web) I would not be stretched out as far as I need to be with the CGTs....So, Carbon Strikes are IT.

The Carbon Strikes are Ironman brand labeled, by the way, so added cool bonus!!

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thehitman posted 2 years ago.

I was re-reading a section of Joe Friel's "Going Long" last night, and there's a good discussion on aerobars, aerodynamics and power. It seems that you can actually lose as much as 50 watts of power by being maximally aerodynamic (stretched out). Spending a few bucks for a professional fitting wouldn't be a bad idea.

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thehitman posted 2 years ago.

I was re-reading a section of Joe Friel's "Going Long" last night, and there's a good discussion on aerobars, aerodynamics and power. It seems that you can actually lose as much as 50 watts of power by being maximally aerodynamic (stretched out). Spending a few bucks for a professional fitting wouldn't be a bad idea.

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thehitman posted 2 years ago.

Hey, I most have been so impressed with my post, that I did it twice!!!!

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Triguy98 posted 2 years ago.

BrianB wrote:
All,

Just went over to pick up my bike with the CGTs installed and I am changing to the Carbon Strike....The CGTs and too short (misleading in the picture on the web) I would not be stretched out as far as I need to be with the CGTs....So, Carbon Strikes are IT.

The Carbon Strikes are Ironman brand labeled, by the way, so added cool bonus!!

Just to point out, as I am sure you are aware, that being aero does not necessitate being "stretched out." As long as your back is flat, you are good. Also make sure that your shoulder angle is 90 degrees from your torso. I saw some dude struggling on the road on Tuesday... he had a road bike and way too long of clip ons, he looked like superman, his angles were all wrong. I see this a lot and it always makes me shake my head. MY problem with the carbon stryke is their method of length adjustment. Instead of sliding into itself, it sticks out towards the rider past the stem if you need it real short.

If the Jammers GTs dont work, I would go with a sized small aero bar, as anything larger will likely be too long.

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BrianB posted 2 years ago.

I did 2 hours on the trainer trying out my new Carbon Strikes (rained all day and I thought it best NOT to risk my life for the first time on aeros and wet road).....Point taken from Triguy98 on beign too stretched out. Actually, I moved my seat all the way forward to give me a better angle over the pedals (converting a road bike into tri geometry the best I can).

The position felt really good and relaxed. I can't wait to hit the road with them to measure power and speed with them. (my computer sensor is on the front wheel, so I am blind on the trainer).

I look at the pros in the pics in Tri Mag and see them with handle bars lower than the seat and in a much more aerodynamic position. I think the CGTs are too short because the pads would be midforearm and not closer to my elbows...seemed like that would not be comfortable long term.

I am new to this, so please correct me if I am wrong. By the way, if Ironman actually allows their logo on these, how could they not be one of the best selections??

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Triguy98 posted 2 years ago.

The type of aerobar that goes on your bike is gonna depend on the style racing you do and the geometry of your ride. The shorter bars like the CGTs DO have the pads more towards the forearm than under the elbow as to not compromise the handling/ position when riding in the drops (ie no aerobar hang over like you might find with the Carbon Strykes. I am def. NO saying the strikes arent good bars, BUT they are designed for tri/ TT specific bikes. If you can position yourself on your road bike with the strykes to where your position is optimal (torso at 90 degrees from your legs and arms 90 degress from your torso) then thats great.
However, in theory, they shouldnt really work that well. I have seen the Strykes and they are long even by my standards. I refer you agian to the Slowtwitch.com site. Again, this is all theory and nothing is right 100% of the time, but there are several articles in there that suggest against a TRI bar on a road bike.

Not sure if this link will work: http://www.triathlon.org/zpg/zimgs-slide.php?tp=prog&id=5&xback=1&title=Large+picture
Notice the pro ITU racers on road bike with the shorter style aero bars and torsos that are slightly greater than parallel to their top tubes...due to the geometry of the bikes.
Now some Tri specific bikes: http://www.rooworld.com/images/2004/athletes/ath_legh_lg.jpg http://www.rooworld.com/images/athletes/tissink.jpg
The tri geometry allows for a lower bullhorn and aero bar, where if it is attempted with road geometry, you would be restricting your diaphram and range of motion in your legs.

Again, if they truley work for you, great, but make sure that your keep your angles correct, or your will be doing yourself a disservice in the long run.

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pernfilman posted 2 years ago.

Well i decided to purchase the Ironman Strykes after all. The adjustability is endless and the comfort is all there. I ran them for the first time on the street today and it helps a lot against the wind. I was holding high speeds at longer intervals with more ease. Still need to tweek that position to make it completely optimal but am very happy thus far. I will be doing an olympic distance next weekend so i am curious to see if my bike times improve.
Thanks everyone for the input and suggestions