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started by rb85cj7 on June 2, 2005

I am just starting out with riding and am having some trouble with the distance.

I have read everywhere that i should try and maintain a high cadence, but when i try and maintain this i get so winded.

So my question is this:

do you train shorter lengths with high cadence and high speed and gradually build that?

OR

do you slow down and go longer and eventually build your speed up?

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MichaelJohn654 posted 3 years ago.

i would suggest doing some long slow distance. Build yourself a base first, then concentrate on speed.

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RV posted 3 years ago.

Riding at a higher cadence is not necessarily about speed at least not initially - Riding at a higher cadence is less taxing - However, it takes time to be comfortable riding at higer cadences. There was an article from Floyd Landis that it took him over a year to be comfortable at higher cadences.

Do simple spinups
Warm up 10-20 minutes - spin around 90 RPM
Then do 3 min at 100 RPM, 2 min at 110 and 1 min at 120+.
When first starting out you may want to cut these times in half.
Do 5 min of recovery spinning and then do a second set.
Then 10 min cool down.
This is probably best done on a trainer - or if on the road then a continuous flat section.
Use whatever gearing that allows you to maintain the cadence with out over-exerting and without bouncing in the saddle. The intent is to even out your pedal stroke. Along with this you can also do single leg drills (definitely on a trainer) to really get a feel for your pedal stroke.

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rb85cj7 posted 3 years ago.

i don't have a cadence monitor but i can garuntee that 90 is as fast as i am doing now and i am dying.

I think i can do long slow distances, but it is my wife. she has been doing this a lot longer than me and she is soo much faster. it is that crappy macho male thing that gets me to go to fast.

oh yeah and she doesn't have a high cadence, she even says that when she tries to run the high cadence she gets exhausted.

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thehitman posted 3 years ago.

Stick with the long slow distance at as high a cadence as you can maintain. If 75 or 80 rpm is as high as you can comfortably ride for distance now, then do that. You'll gradually build greater endurance, and will be able to increase your cadence, too; hopefully to 90 or so.

When I started riding a couple of years ago, my cadence was around 60, so I worked on it. Now it probably averages 95. It takes time and mileage.

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Tribro posted 3 years ago.

Ya, just slowly build up to a higher cadence. For me my race cadence is about 92-95. I rarely push faster than that. Many others can, but that range seems best for me. If you can't ride at that now than jsut ride at what you can do maintaining you heart rate training. On speed days work some intervals like RV suggests to improve your cadence. Overtime it will come if you work on it.

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ryan16 posted 3 years ago.

Well everyone said it already. Just gradually build a good base and the speed will come with time.

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trainDaBrain posted 3 years ago.

The cool thing about high cadence is that it establishes the nerve response. It trains your legs to turn-over at a faster rate, paving the way for when your legs have to do two things at once: applying speed and high turnover.

Nerve response is that thing that helps your muscles redefine themselves. As you continue in the higher cadence, (minus the higher force) your legs begin to adapt to the motion. Once your legs are tuned to that rhythm, you can start applying a little more force. Takes time like everyone says, but it has a great return.

Good luck!

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rb85cj7 posted 3 years ago.

good call with slowing down.

Instead of trying to ride my heart out i went out to have fun. I actually rode farther than ever 18.8 miles at 15.5 mph avg. speed.

i went slower but went longer. Thanks for the advice.

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KenMierke posted 3 years ago.

Congratulations on your great ride and keep up the good work! Ken

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rb85cj7 posted 3 years ago.

my wife and i did our longest ride yet last sunday. 32 miles at 16.2 avg. the good news is our legs were tired but not gone and our lungs were still good to go.

This stuff is starting to get real fun