How soon to try for IM distance
Jcody,
I think you could do it! If you have a good background in cycling and running and the distance does not scare you than go for it. Look, I started in trialtlon with no cycling experience and I would swim and run for fitness. It really only took me the better part of a full year to really get ready (small amount time all things considered). So, I guess it will depend on your goals for the race and the TIME you have to train. In my experience, to do well at that distance you have to have the time. Some swear there are high intensity programs requiring less in terms of time, but I found the way to get it done is put in the hours. Good luck!
[FONT=Impact]-Jason
"Fatigue will make cowards of us all!"
I think if you have the backround in running and cycling, then doing a full IM next year is not unreasonable at all. I get worried when people who have never run before jump into the marathon. I think it takes the body awhile to adapt to the pounding of running and i've seen so many people that run one marathon and then stop because they are plagued with injuries. The bottom line is that you must have the base if you want to be successful.
"Tough times dont last. Tough people do."
I'm in your age group and waited 2 years and did 2 half IM distances before I decided to go for the full distance (this summer). I completed the first half IM race but I was not happy with my performance. There were many things I did not take under control. I wanted to try one more time, The second race I was prepared for the distance and enjoyed the race. The distance makes you use different strategies, no matter how well prepare you are. In race day is different. Jumping to IM distance from Oly distance is hard to do. It's doable if you have the base training. I raced the halfs, kept wrking hard, gave my body the time to go long and now I'm giving myself the chance for IM. At 44, married, fulltime work, etc,etc, it's hard to meet the training hours to prep the race but I have the experience of training long and racing long, my body will take hit and I will able to suck it up. For Jason and Deejay is a piece of cake because they are 20-24 for us is different.
Panchortri is on to something here! Sometimes, I forget to look at the age group catagory on a member's profile. Sorry, I know that is what it is there for, but most of the time I'm on here when I really should be studying, so I hurry and miss things. Although, I not going to change my slant on this. I still think you can do it, but the time frame to get ready might be longer. Look, I'm not going to pretend to know how your body recovers, what I can tell you, is that you'll need the recovery for this adventure. It may be wise to take your time and feel out the volume increases as you go. One thing for sure, there is plenty of volume involved! Good luck to you, I hope you decide to go for it!
[FONT=Impact]-Jason
"Fatigue will make cowards of us all!"
"piece of cake"
I dont know about that, LOL. But yah, im sure we recover faster at a younger age. I guess thats all the more reason for me to do it now rather than later.
"Tough times dont last. Tough people do."
Thanks to everyone for the vote of confidence and insightful information. I may be a little older but I must say I really enjoy seeing that 20 something or 30 something on the calf of the person I just passed :p Since I do not have kids I have plenty of training time thanks to a very supportive wife. I will utltimately make my decision based on where I am at the end of the season. But my confidence is building :D
go for it, just make sure your and your family are aware of the time commitments you will be taking. If you are serious about this, IM training will definately change you as a person. Also at work see if they will allow you take half-days, I found this to be a big training bonus, 1/2 day a week off for 16 weeks is a big help. Follow the Base - Building formula for a min. of 12 wks, 16 better. Put in the long days but remember the recovery, recovery at our age is a must for success.
Action - I like your idea about half days - I am lucky in that I work at a University and have very good flex hours so that should not be a problem. I was wondering, have you done an IM? If so what type of trainig hours did you do per week. At this point I have read quite a lot about training etc. and I routinely workout between 10-12 hours a week - this has helped me improve my Olympic distance. I am thinking with more than a year to go IE not this October but next October 2006 I should have plenty of time to get in plenty of base and millege. What I have read said to plan on between 15 - 20 hours a week for training. Is thisn inline with what you have already done? Also any recommendations for doing a first IM. I would really like to get the full dosage with a true M-dot race maybe like Florida or Lake Placid. But I also want to do it in the FALL so maybe Florida is out.
your hours are bang on, this year my biggest change is getting up to 6 hr. on the bike asap, i will be there next wk. over three months before the event. At that point i will work on my speed within the long rides going forward, the more long rides, the better your endurance gets plus on race day the ride will seem like a piece of cake and the run, well, lets just say i hope its a death march vs a death crawl. The endurance the bike gives you is remarkable, last night i ran 2 1/2 hr., couldnt belive the speed and how low my heart rate was, when i hit the door my wife questioned where i had been, because i sure didnt look like i just came off a 2 1/2 hr. run. ride that bike !!!!!! I find that doing long runs and long bikes are better spaced about every 9 to 10 days vs every 7, to get in the rest and then insert those hard days i find that 7 days comes to soon, i also do the two weeks of 16 to 20 hrs. then cut back to 8 or 10 on the third week. this next tip is still in the testing mode but so far so good, drinking a ulta shake vs. power bars, gel, etc, this stuff is what old folks drink when they cannt eat solids, 355 calories in a little 8 oz can, non dairy, different flavors, i poured 3 cans, 1065 cal (= 5 power bars) in a water bottle and consumed it last week on a 5 1/2 hr. ride, chase it with a little water had no problems, lots better than trying to eat solids, that along with accelerade in my nerdy camel back is all you would ever need to get you fully fuled by the special needs station. you can get this stuff at any grocery store, look for the "extra calories" variety, check the labels. The swim, well, cant help you much there, i swam a 1:15 and all went well, this year, like the bike have already done 3, 1:15 swims in the pool, last year none, just long lake swims, to early for lake swims here, but the more lake swims and competitions to get use to the start the better, i like to schedule my lake swim followed by biking big hills immediatley after and a short run(good use of a 1/2 day! ) The run, run in the heat of the day as much as you can. last yr. there was not a hot day in the great northern prairies, on race day there was!!!! it crushed me(would guess it cost me 30min). in a nut shell, read lots, come up with your own program, stick with it, work on your mind and mental toughness, on race day, be cool and soak it all in, and stick to the plan. I was shocked at some of the people i passed on the run, they were people that inspired me(locally) but it was all about the bike to them and they paid the price. one other thing, on every training, swim, bike, or run , focus on technique at all times, get better by doing it better! good luck.
Thaks action for the numerous tips and information.
I sure hope so...I did 2 sprints (one swim was cancelled) and 1 olympic last year; probably do the same this year as prep for my priority race...the Duke Blue Devil in 5 months. It was my goal last year when I started thinking triathlon to do an IM distance "in 2005" and then I found out I was going to be a father. Then I found the Duke race and what it stands for and started thinking about how things are possible for other people with circumstances, so why not me! Anyhoo, I'm going for it and plan on being prepared and you sound like you're way ahead of where I am (granted, not far at all yet for me). I'm going to use pictures of my son and I at the finish line as an example of what is difficult, but possible in his life, not to mention what it'll do for me! In short, I applaud your journey and wish you good luck on its completion!
JCody,
If you have that good of a background in cycling and running then I see no reason that you can't do the IM distance next year. The advice that I give anyone who is new (realativly) to triathlon and are already beating the IM drum, take it slow. Triathlon is a way of life, it is a great community of people who enjoy training and staying fit. Everyone sees the IMHawii race on TV and instantly think "I have to do that" which is great as it makes more people aware of our sport. However triathlon isn't just IM or Ultra distance races. There are people who are triathletes for years and never do an IM distance event and they are just as much triathletes as those of us who have done IM races. This is not a rant directed at you or anything, I have just noticed on here that it seems everyone with a bike and a speedo is training to do an Ironman and I just had to say that there is more to triathlon than Ironman. I do think that you will do well at the distance and I wish you luck
Brett
Brett Daniels
USAT Level I Coach
www.thesportfactory.com



I am new to Tri with this season being my first year however I have a couple of years cycling and several years running experience. I have done 4 Sprints to date and have scheduled 4 more, in addition I plan on doing 2 International distances to finish off the year in October. My question is for next years season - at first I thougt I would focus on International distance next year and then try a half but I am doing much better than I thought I would in races and I know my running and cycling are there since I have done sevearl centuries and a half marathon with a full marathon planned this winter. Is it possible to go for the full Ironman next October, that would be be October 2006. I think I could get there training wise but want to do a little better than just drag myself across the line.
Any advise would be helpful. I use Joe Friel Triathlon training bible as my guide and I love it - but I might would considert a coach if I thought this would help me get there next year.
Thanks