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started by UFTriGator on November 15, 2007

Can that actually happen?! Apparently, the answer is "yes". I'm posting this instead of a race report. :mad:

I was doing a Half Iron race, and because of my age started 22 minutes back from the first wave. Although I passed a few hundred people in the swim (I think I had the 2nd fastest swim out of 1000), there were still a bunch of people on the bike course before me. About 12 miles in, the majority of people were going in the 18-20 mph range, while I was doing about 26 (slight tailwind here.....I was averaging a bit slower than 24 up until this point). It was on an open course and the sag wagon was in front me going the speed of most of the rest of the racers. I checked to make sure there was no oncoming traffic, and made a wide pass on the left. Halfway through, the car turned left off the road. I went all the way out into the gravel to avoid getting hit, but he STILL didn't see me and I ended up smashing into the front fender and flipping face-first into the ground. Honestly, the guy had to have the IQ of a baked potato. For God's sake, he was part of the damn bike race and didn't think to look around for bikes! Broken nose....eight stitches....etc, etc. Oh, and my $6k tri bike was totaled, along with my glasses, $300 shoes, and $240 helmet. To add insult to injury, this was the last race I needed for my pro card.....and based on my swim and the first 30 min of my bike I was feeling REALLY good that day.

My next post has a few of my favorite pics: :D

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UFTriGator posted 35 weeks ago.

I don't look very happy here. These are two days afterwards, so everything is looking better than they did the day it happened.

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JamieM posted 35 weeks ago.

That just sucks. Hope you heal well. Will insurance at least cover some of the damages?

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RV posted 35 weeks ago.

Totally oblivious - sheeze!
Luckily you weren't hurt any worse.
That really sucks with needing that race for getting your card.
Does the race or their insurance or the driver cover the $$$ for your bike and equipment?

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UFTriGator posted 35 weeks ago.

RV;85466 wrote:

Does the race or their insurance or the driver cover the $$$ for your bike and equipment?

JamieM;85465 wrote:
That just sucks. Hope you heal well. Will insurance at least cover some of the damages?

They damn well better get me a new bike or I'll be filing a lawsuit with the guy's mom for drinking while pregnant! :D

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tri-ac posted 35 weeks ago.

very sorry to hear this!

if we're not safe from cars in a race, man, we're really not safe anywhere...!

Hope you heal up well!

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Iron Dan posted 35 weeks ago.

Glad to hear you are ok.

I'm no expert, but the car's insurance ought to cover this. He was at a "bike race" and turned into you. I can see no reason why this would not be covered by his insurance.

Heal up and sorry to hear about the pro card.

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kylie posted 35 weeks ago.

Definitely sucks, but I guess I believe you now since there are pics.

Based on Mike's car vs bike at the Vineman 70.3 this year, here is what I know: the driver was held responsible, but only because he was charged with something (illegal uturn or crossing lanes without looking or something). Otherwise since Mike slammed into the side of the car it would have been his fault. This was a non-race vehicle, so what the race has to say will be interesting as well. Keep us posted, and good luck!

Maybe you just weren't meant to get a pro card yet (based on how your luck has been going in your drive for it) :p

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Socket posted 35 weeks ago.

WOW that sucks. But hey, at least you had a good helmet or it could have been a whole lot worse.

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azstinger11 posted 35 weeks ago.

Glad to hear your not more jacked up, but sorry to hear that it happened at all. Hope you get this all resolved quickly and no one is a pain in the butt about covering stuff.

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Joe_H posted 35 weeks ago.

glad you're in one piece (relatively speaking)

in Mr. SAG's defense he wasn't expecting you on his left side

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qb ant posted 35 weeks ago.

Sorry to hear about your accident - hope you heal quickly and glad it wasn't worse.

This may be a dumb question but I've only done up to olympic distances so I don't recall ever seeing a SAG wagon, but shouldn't they be driving behind the bikers?

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UFTriGator posted 35 weeks ago.

Joe_H;85504 wrote:
glad you're in one piece (relatively speaking)

in Mr. SAG's defense he wasn't expecting you on his left side


?

Triathlon rules:
Pass on the left.

Road rules (for an open course):
Pass on the left.

What should he have expected? I even called out, so besides not checking his mirrors or using a turn signal, he also wasn't listening.

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Joe_H posted 35 weeks ago.

UFTriGator;85511 wrote:
?

Triathlon rules:
Pass on the left.

Road rules (for an open course):
Pass on the left.

QUOTE]

I am assuming here but was this a single lane road in each direction and you crossed the double yellow to pass on his left?
if so you aren't traffic laws typically say don't cross the double yellow. also cars don't typically get passed by bike on the road and he was wrong not to put on his turn signal or check for bikes but can see how he didn't expect to see you there.

glad you are not seriously injured and hope his insurance pays for the bike.

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theShiba posted 35 weeks ago.

Hey man... road rash is definitely a lot better than a dislocated shoulder... Hope it doesn't sting too bad.

Hopefully you're feeling better, and checking out new bikes! :D

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Triguy98 posted 35 weeks ago.

Dude! AWESOME pics! But yeah, that sucks. I would imagine this will all be covered just fine, either by the driver or the race organizer. I would imagine the RD was informed of the incident?

I thought your bike was ok? What ended up happening with that?

Your wounds will heal. You might be a little more ugly for a while, but what doesnt kill ya...

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UFTriGator posted 35 weeks ago.

Triguy98;85515 wrote:

I thought your bike was ok? What ended up happening with that?

The frame wasn't obviously broken or the wheels completely tacoed, but my wheels can't be trued and they were both knocked out of true pretty badly and the frame has an integrated derailleur hanger that can't be fixed. I'm pretty upset.....I loved that bike. I mean, I like my car, I like my girlfriend, but I loved that bike.

Triguy98;85515 wrote:
You might be a little more ugly for a while

Yeah, now I know what it feels like to be you. :D

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UFTriGator posted 35 weeks ago.

theShiba;85514 wrote:
Hey man... road rash is definitely a lot better than a dislocated shoulder... Hope it doesn't sting too bad.

Hopefully you're feeling better, and checking out new bikes! :D


I'm thinking 08 Transition with Zipp Sub-9 Disc and Zipp 1080. :D Well, I was already planning on buying the wheels for my Plasma anyway, but looks like they'll be going on a different bike now.

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brittda posted 35 weeks ago.

Joe_H;85512 wrote:
UFTriGator;85511 wrote:
?

Triathlon rules:
Pass on the left.

Road rules (for an open course):
Pass on the left.

QUOTE]

I am assuming here but was this a single lane road in each direction and you crossed the double yellow to pass on his left?
if so you aren't traffic laws typically say don't cross the double yellow. also cars don't typically get passed by bike on the road and he was wrong not to put on his turn signal or check for bikes but can see how he didn't expect to see you there.

glad you are not seriously injured and hope his insurance pays for the bike.

Ok, here is MY ignorance. The 2 IM races I did stressed that you could not pass into the left lane. Period. That would be a penalty. Are the rules different in different races? I ask not to be a smart a$$ but because I would not be looking in the left lane for a bike if I weredriving on a race course.

Hope you are feeling better---that sucks :(

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kakman posted 35 weeks ago.

It may be different down here (haven't done any road based races yet so can't say first hand) but a current thread on an Aussie tri site says passing on the left is a DQ offence.
Of course, we drive on the left but I'm interested if there's some international law which governs this.

And man, that looks like one sore shoulder - ouch :eek: Way to get a new bike:D

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Joe_H posted 35 weeks ago.

passing on the right is a no-no here in the US (don't think it's a DQ but it is a penalty)

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UFTriGator posted 35 weeks ago.

kakman;85527 wrote:
It may be different down here (haven't done any road based races yet so can't say first hand) but a current thread on an Aussie tri site says passing on the left is a DQ offence.
Of course, we drive on the left but I'm interested if there's some international law which governs this.
/k

Man you Aussies (and Brits) really are bass-ackwards! LOL.

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cjhoffmn posted 35 weeks ago.

Wow sorry to hear this. Was following your story about getting your card. Well, it will just end up being a better story when you bounce back from this and go over the top.

Heal well, heal soon.

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jerallen posted 35 weeks ago.

Despite the circumstances this is your chance to upgrade. I was mad when i drove my bike into the garage on my roof rack, but I got to upgrade! What color transition you thinkin? The black one is totally sick. Red not as pretty.

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UFTriGator posted 35 weeks ago.

I'm thinking white. You didn't used to have a Colnago, did you?

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Iron Dan posted 35 weeks ago.

UFTriGator;85566 wrote:
I'm thinking white. You didn't used to have a Colnago, did you?

Gotta give it to the guy who can get $178 out of a bike that is pretty much worthless. That is not something a little duct tape could fix. :D

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UFTriGator posted 35 weeks ago.

My guess is that the guy who won it sent it to Calfee.

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hollywood1 posted 35 weeks ago.

UFTriGator;85531 wrote:
Man you Aussies (and Brits) really are bass-ackwards! LOL.

Were not the ones still using the imperial system.....

dont get bitter, get better

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vistring posted 35 weeks ago.

Wow, and I was bummed over my car getting hit the day before the race and keeping me up late.

Totally changed my perspective on the last race.

Have a speedy recovery, and get back to racing. And of course enjoy the new bike.

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jerallen posted 35 weeks ago.

No Colnago here, I wrecked my Quintana Roo, Tequilo.

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Triphile posted 34 weeks ago.

Dude, I hate to hear about this kind of crap. By no means do I have the perception that cyclists own the roads, but when you are in your proper place and doing what you can to obey the rules of the race (and/or the road), you've got to stand back and say, "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over?!"

I just found this thread, and am amazed that it happened one day before my string of mishaps, though your injuries rock compared to mine (that shoulder looks gooey). That cycling karma was on a rampage last week! And don't fret about your Pro card...what good is it going to do a nuke puke? I mean, really, who do you think you are? Andy Baldwin? lol. Seriously though, I'm glad that you're ok. Be sure to update us on what the race organizers come back with.

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Leroy Bonkers posted 34 weeks ago.

Terrible. First Florida gets an embarrising loss to the clearly superior Georgia Bulldogs and now this. ;)

These will make great pictures for your website! Hope you get back up and at it soon.

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oztrigal posted 34 weeks ago.

kakman;85527 wrote:
It may be different down here (haven't done any road based races yet so can't say first hand) but a current thread on an Aussie tri site says passing on the left is a DQ offence.
Of course, we drive on the left but I'm interested if there's some international law which governs this.
/k

Yeah it's the opposite over here to what it is over there...

That sucks big time!! Over here, the membership I have with Triathlon Australia comes with insurance when you're riding your bike racing or training.. Even if you're not a member, there's an extra amount you have to pay for your race entry to get a one day licence so you're covered. Maybe your race entry has something like this?

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Gary3 posted 34 weeks ago.

jerallen;85687 wrote:
No Colnago here, I wrecked my Quintana Roo, Tequilo.

Colnago,Tequilo, what is that Bar Mixers? LOL.

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BigGus posted 34 weeks ago.

Hey Matt, didn't you also crash in Escape to Miami 2 months ago and break your seatpost? What's going on here? You are one hard racing, a** kicking, hammering dude! Just remember, what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.

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usasportstrain posted 33 weeks ago.

The irony!

I love irony, but not that kind. :(

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TriMcKeever posted 15 weeks ago.

I don't think highly of the lawsuits, but some individuals need to be held repsonsible. Sue the driver for being a 'potato head', sue the event director who is responsible for racers' right-of-way on race route...and sue the driver's mother for drug induced pregnancy. If lawsuit becomes too hasslesome, I know some Boston irish mafia [or Dixie Flag rednecks] who will hold such imbesciles responsible

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UFTriGator posted 15 weeks ago.

I already signed away the right to sue. Too much of a hassle, anyway. Besides, I ended up with about $11k from the accident to cover medical, the bike, and "inconvenience" as the insurance company phrased it.

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Socket posted 15 weeks ago.

Signing away the right to sue is usually included with signing up.

How are the scars coming? Chicks dig scars. :-P

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theShiba posted 15 weeks ago.

Well, since this thread has been dug-up... I can say that while I would probably never sue unless I really felt like I needed to do it to cover any expenses (I wouldn't try to make money off of an accident), "signing away the right to sue" doesn't mean that you can't. Or, a better way of saying it, just because you sign saying you won't sue doesn't mean that you can be held to that if a race director (or other person) is found grossly negligent, or just generally if you can get a judge to think that you can make a case for the lawsuit despite what you may have signed.

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UFTriGator posted 15 weeks ago.

I have a new bike (I'll put up pics when my wheels come in next week), the scars are fading, and I'm too busy to go after some grease monkey at a bike shop who can't drive.

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Leroy Bonkers posted 15 weeks ago.

Socket wrote:
How are the scars coming? Chicks dig scars. :-P

I guess that explains all the action that Frankenstien's monster is said to have gotten... ;-)

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Captain Mal posted 15 weeks ago.

theShiba wrote:
Well, since this thread has been dug-up... I can say that while I would probably never sue unless I really felt like I needed to do it to cover any expenses (I wouldn't try to make money off of an accident), "signing away the right to sue" doesn't mean that you can't. Or, a better way of saying it, just because you sign saying you won't sue doesn't mean that you can be held to that if a race director (or other person) is found grossly negligent, or just generally if you can get a judge to think that you can make a case for the lawsuit despite what you may have signed.

I immagine that Gator means that he settled the claim for the 11k. If the race was relying on the waiver, they wouldn't have given him the cash.

Can't wait to see the new bike by the way.

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