Quantcast

Reasons Not To Buy A Tri Bike

DaBrat's picture
Posts
6
Member
311 days
started by DaBrat on November 4, 2007

Hi all!

I'm new to triathlons and am looking to get a bike to train and race for trathlons.

I am pretty athletic and competitive, so I want the bike that'll help me most in my development into triathlons.

I don't plan on doing group rides. The biggest group ride I plan on doing is training with 2 or 3 friends on the road.

I've read on this site, online and from friends who mostly recommend getting a road bike with reasons such as flexibility and price.

Now to my question. I don't need flexibility nor am too concerned about price. I really just want a bike which'll help me most in races and to train in. Shouldn't I just get a triathlon bike which is made for triathlons?

Please tell me if I'm making sense or are there reasons based on my situation that I should get a road bike to train and race?

Thank you all in advance.

kylie's picture
Posts
4212
Member
1556 days
kylie posted 43 weeks ago.

I still almost exclusively ride on a tri bike on the roads. My first bike was a tri bike, and I've never regretted it.

Miles of Life --- Powered by MarkyV

hateloveschool's picture
Posts
72
Member
623 days
hateloveschool posted 43 weeks ago.

I would say go with a tri bike. If you have no reason to have a road bike, don't get one. I have a Felt s32, it's a intro tri-bike and a cheaper one. It's worked well for me, I've had it for about a year now, good bike.

If price isn't a problem, and if you've had biking experience, I would go for a more expensive bike then say a felt s32. I'm sure their are plenty of posts here that suggets different bikes, just search for a particular bike or just look around.

Triguy98's picture
Posts
2346
Member
1243 days
Triguy98 posted 43 weeks ago.

If you're new to tris, and money really isnt a concern, I would start with a roadie, do a season on that while you research and ride tons of different tri bikes, then buy a tri bike next season. Roadies have their uses.

That said, I started racing tris owning nothing but a MTB. I rented roadies for my first couple races, then got a tri bike after that season was over. I just now put together a roadie. I'll be riding the roadie more than the tri bike over the off season. Tris bikes arent made to go slow speeds under low power. They are right at home with higher wattages and efforts, where the power and position keeps you from grinding into the seat.

Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.

JamieM's picture
Posts
833
Member
1283 days
JamieM posted 43 weeks ago.

I'll add another couple reasons to consider a road bike...

First, comfort. It can take a little getting used to to get comfortable for long periods of time on a bike. Sometimes moreso with a tri bike than a road bike as the position can require greater flexibility and strength in places that are a little out of shape on a non-cyclist.

As far as flexibility and versatility you never know where this sport may take you. A road bike will give you more options in the future for group rides and races, as well as serving you well as a tri-race bike.

There are also simply more options in the road bike market. And I would think choice is very important in a first bike purchase. Especially for someone who's not concerned about price.

And for the record I have both, and train more often on the road bike.

Airborne's picture
Posts
149
Member
1336 days
Airborne posted 43 weeks ago.

+1 for the tri bike.

I have both, and do 90% of my riding on the tri bike. It sounds like your focus is triathlon, not road racing. Get the tri bike and a slick set of wheels.

Gary3's picture
Posts
152
Member
365 days
Gary3 posted 43 weeks ago.

"Please tell me if I'm making sense or are there reasons based on my situation that I should get a road bike to train and race?"

Why would you get a road bike if you plan on doing triathlons?
Train and race on the Tri bike.

Triphile's picture
Posts
46
Member
305 days
Triphile posted 43 weeks ago.

I was faced with the same decision as you not more than 4 months ago. I actually shopped for bikes for more than 6 months prior to that and considered both road bikes and tri bikes. Eventually, I purchased a mid-to-higher tier tribike. My reasons were as follows:

1) Investment - Nothing says commitment like financial commitment

2) Focus - The only reason I was looking at bikes was because of my interest in triathlons

3) Anyone I ride with doesn't care that I'm on a tribike

4) Tribikes are sexy and make me sexy by association

I made my commitment by purchasing the bike and signing up for Ironman Cd'A. In the end, it was my personal reflection that spurred my decisions and I wanted to stick with my gut. So as long as that all makes sense, I hope it helps you!

For the sake of uniformity, I've registered a new username. Sorry for any confusion. Follow my progress towards finishing Ironman Cd'A 2008 at http://www.triphile.com. Thanks!

john_grieco's picture
Posts
72
Member
329 days
john_grieco posted 43 weeks ago.

I have a road bike and recently got a tri bike - I do 20-25% of my cycling on my road bike for one main reason: If i'm riding paceline in a large pack (>10-12 people), because once you start to ride - single or double pace line, a tri bike is no better aerodynamically and it limits your emergency handling.

There's probably one other reason that I'd grab my road bike over my tri-bike - if there is a chance of rain. I don't like getting my tri-bike wet if I can avoid it.

"Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go."
-T. S. Eliot

mdd's picture
Posts
359
Member
747 days
mdd posted 43 weeks ago.

I notice that even though most people use tri bikes or have clip on aero bars on road bikes, that they don't actually USE them when racing. By that I mean they spend 90% of the race up on their handle bars. I believe that as many as 75% of racers would be better served by a good road bike than they would by a tri specific bike. If you can not stay in the aero bars for 99% of the ride then you might as well stick to a more versatile road bike. You will be more comfortable and while you may lose speed due to decreased aerodynamics, that doesn't really matter unless you are planning on winning the whole race or you AG! :).

Good luck!

Iron Dan's picture
Posts
622
Member
477 days
Iron Dan posted 43 weeks ago.

I have both a tri bike and a road bike. I purchased my road bike first and at the time I had no intention of doing triathlons. Once I did my first season of races, I purchased a tri bike and do 99% of my training on it. I finally got out on my road bike last week for the first ride in over half a year. There is a big difference in how each bike rides and each has there own charm, but I would just get a tri bike and forget about it.

cjhoffmn's picture
Posts
301
Member
367 days
cjhoffmn posted 43 weeks ago.

I just bought my first one and did the same analysis. I ended up getting a tri bike and really feel good about it. Even though it takes a little adjustment (especially from the my other bike - a mountain bike), I've found that once I got used to the bike, its quite comfortable. I also try to spend as much time as possible up in my aerobars.

To tri or not to tri - that's not a question at all!

DaBrat's picture
Posts
6
Member
311 days
DaBrat posted 43 weeks ago.

Thank you all for your help. Even though I'm still a little confused as to which I should get, I definitely have a better idea.

A follow up question . . . If you were not participating in triathlons, would you switch to a road bike or stick with the tri bike?

Thank you!

JamieM's picture
Posts
833
Member
1283 days
JamieM posted 43 weeks ago.

I think that would depend on what you're going to participate in. Going to just train without racing, the tri bike would be fine. Going to do more group rides a road bike would be a better choice. Going to road race and it would be a necessity.

Gary3's picture
Posts
152
Member
365 days
Gary3 posted 43 weeks ago.

DaBrat;84596 wrote:
Thank you all for your help. Even though I'm still a little confused as to which I should get, I definitely have a better idea.

A follow up question . . . If you were not participating in triathlons, would you switch to a road bike or stick with the tri bike?

Thank you!

I would go with a Road Bike

kylie's picture
Posts
4212
Member
1556 days
kylie posted 43 weeks ago.

I second Jamie -- If I was just going to keep riding for fun, I'd stick to my tri bike. I've never ridden a road bike enough to want one for climbing, etc. People I ride with don't care what bike I'm on, etc. But if going to do any road racing then a road bike is needed (depending on the race and geometry rules -- I believe for some you can just put road style bars on your tri geom bike).

Miles of Life --- Powered by MarkyV

PJT's picture
Posts
946
Member
1115 days
PJT posted 43 weeks ago.

If I was never going to race a tri or TT, I would definitely get a road bike. They are tend to be less expensive than a tri bike at comparable spec levels (though not as bad now as in the past) and do offer a bit more comfort and better handling.

If I wanted a bike to do triathlons and was going to get only 1 bike, I would get a tri bike.

Triphile's picture
Posts
46
Member
305 days
Triphile posted 43 weeks ago.

Regarding the second question of the OP, I would get a road bike if I had no intention of competing in triathlons. It's fair to think that you will only want to train for fitness on a bike. However, I would maintain that as soon as you recognized your improvements, you would want to test yourself against others. That would most likely be a local bike race or even a large group ride.

Assuming you enter a race, the tri geometry and aero bars would most likely be banned from those competitions as someone has already mentioned . As far as a large group ride, I have never had the guts to show up on my tribike, though I see them every morning and I haven't picked out a single TT bike in the mix.

For the sake of uniformity, I've registered a new username. Sorry for any confusion. Follow my progress towards finishing Ironman Cd'A 2008 at http://www.triphile.com. Thanks!

jmcglos's picture
Posts
209
Member
1375 days
jmcglos posted 43 weeks ago.

I have both road bike and tri bike. I think it all depends on what you really want. Will you regret having a road bike when you get to your triathlon and see all those sexy tri bikes? If you're only training and riding specifically for triathlon, get a tri bike. If you then later decide you want to ride in group rides (or start road racing where you need one) where you're not comfortable riding a tri bike (depends on the people in the group and how they perceive you), then you can always get a used road bike later for a good price.

When I'm riding my tri bike, I spend 99.9% of the time in my aerobars. I hate riding up high on the tri bike, and I only do it if it's a steep climb. On the road bike, I like riding in the drops b/c it's most comfortable for me, I think b/c of all the riding I do in the aerobars on the tri bike.

And finally, if I were only buying one bike and didn't do triathlons, I'd buy a road bike. More versatility, easier for climbing (in my opinion esp since I ride a compact crank on a road bike, but an oversize crank on my tri bike), better bike and components for the $$, easier handling and corner (again my opinion), better for me for commuting, the type of bike I need for road racing......

Good luck in the search. Post a pic once you buy one!

spazz's picture
Posts
55
Member
497 days
spazz posted 43 weeks ago.

mdd;84572 wrote:
I notice that even though most people use tri bikes or have clip on aero bars on road bikes, that they don't actually USE them when racing. By that I mean they spend 90% of the race up on their handle bars. I believe that as many as 75% of racers would be better served by a good road bike than they would by a tri specific bike. If you can not stay in the aero bars for 99% of the ride then you might as well stick to a more versatile road bike. You will be more comfortable and while you may lose speed due to decreased aerodynamics, that doesn't really matter unless you are planning on winning the whole race or you AG! :).

Good luck!

ahhhh what????? i have never seen anyone in a race on a tri bike riding in the hoods unless there is a sharp turn, "they spend 90% of the race up on their handle bars", really youre just a liar or an idiot, or probably both, so 75% of racers are better off not getting a free 1.5 -2 mph? I wasnt aware of this

can someone tell me where this "it takes awhile to get comfortable in the aerobars" comes from? from the first day i bought my tri bike i was in the aerobars the whole time and never had any problem

kylie's picture
Posts
4212
Member
1556 days
kylie posted 43 weeks ago.

In an Ironman I do see some people sitting up a bit more than recommended, but I wouldn't say that high of a percentage. Some need to for food/fluid intake, or to stretch and get back into the bars. Or for a big hill. I wouldn't say that they should be on a road bike. And I never by the "don't bother if you won't win anyways" argument: I'm going for a PR, and I'm racing me. So yes, that help does matter in the race I'm in.

It does take time to get comfortable in a lower position: but it depends on your flexibility and core strength. It also depends on your pain tolerance and what you think it should feel like.

Miles of Life --- Powered by MarkyV

TriSig's picture
Posts
35
Member
812 days
TriSig posted 43 weeks ago.

I totally agree with MDD that at races i see a lot of people riding on the hood and not tsking full advantage of the aero position. Also to get a great advantage from the tri bike you need to be pretty fast, on the bars at 12mph does nothing for you. I have both bikes as well and i like to do base training on my roadie. And finally if you had no adjustment phase when you started riding a tri bike you are either a, Rubberman or b: in need of a different stem length and or height. I mean a tri bike is not made for comfort, it is made for speed, this is obviously a good thing for a lot of training and racing but it's not going to ride like a full carbon roadie on 17mph base rides. I love my tri bike but i dont want to put in 150+ miles a week on it. Also lets leave the hostility out of this.

mdd's picture
Posts
359
Member
747 days
mdd posted 43 weeks ago.

TriSig;84748 wrote:
Also lets leave the hostility out of this.

I agree 100% with that. People are just giving opinions and observations none of which is an attack on anybody here. We have a member asking a question so lets leave the forum open for everyone to answer and try to help this person out. :)

Triguy98's picture
Posts
2346
Member
1243 days
Triguy98 posted 43 weeks ago.

spazz;84743 wrote:
"they spend 90% of the race up on their handle bars", really youre just a liar or an idiot, or probably both, so blah blah blah

can someone tell me where this "it takes awhile to get comfortable in the aerobars" comes from? blah blah blah

I see a LOT of people at races out of aero, at distance all the way down to a sprint. Or with aerobars so high in the air, they might as well be on the hoods of a roadie. So YES, it is common. Apparantly they dont want the free speed. Or, arent set up right to take advantage of it.

I dont fully understand the "aero is comfortable" thing, but I get it to an extent. At speeds under 20mph, I dont care for my tri bike. Its great when I am fast, and totally comfortable. With the lower position, it's just not that great is you're not laying down the watts.

Many people also do not get fitted properly on their tri bikes. This is the fatal flaw with those who cant get comfy on the bars. Some dude who didnt know what they were doing put them on a bike they didnt belong on. That simple.

It doesnt take an idiot or a liar to see those points. Check the attitude at the door, or visit some other forums. We play nice here and like it that way.

Life is short. Play hard and get dirty doing it.

brittda's picture
Posts
1488
Member
1318 days
brittda posted 43 weeks ago.

I do a lot of my training on a road bike, and plan to do more next season. I had a couple of rides this last season that were huge on climbing and I was not as comfortable as I would have been in on the road bike. We have a lot of hills here and the tri position is not as comfortable (for me at least) for lots of hill climbing. I think perhaps WHERE you will be riding might also be a consideration. I also commuted on my road bike to work, and still use it for around town commuting now that I am not working(grocery store, coffee with my friends etc). Just my .02

Triphile's picture
Posts
46
Member
305 days
Triphile posted 43 weeks ago.

I know it took me a couple of rides and then a follow up fit about two weeks after I got my bike before I was fully comfortable in aero but I attribute that discomfort to a neck injury (Though that was probably because I was looking too far ahead, situational awareness vs. proper technique and all).

I know that I've seen a lot of people that have been riding tribikes that have yet to get themselves that perfect 90 degree angle It is exactly as Kylie has suggested, it depends on flexibility and strength. I personally hate riding up on the bike. With such a steep angled seat post, I feel like I'm doing a trunk lift.

For the sake of uniformity, I've registered a new username. Sorry for any confusion. Follow my progress towards finishing Ironman Cd'A 2008 at http://www.triphile.com. Thanks!

dawgruff's picture
Posts
29
Member
301 days
dawgruff posted 42 weeks ago.

I do duathlons (hate swimming) and i see absolutely NO REASON to buy a tri bike. Tri Bike's are a lot more expensive, a lot more likely to be stolen, PLUS they aren't nearly as comfortable. I finished 6th place in my last Sprint Duathlon (2.2 mile run, 18 mile bike, 2.2 mile run) and my road bike was fine. Unless you are an experienced and GOOD triathlet i don't see why you'd waste the money. I beat tons of people on their tri bikes last time out.

Don't get me wrong, tri bikes are fine pieces of equipment, but if you are going to do 2 or 3 tri races a year they are pointless.

UFTriGator's picture
Posts
1125
Member
897 days
UFTriGator posted 42 weeks ago.

^What are you talking about?

Reasons to buy a tri bike:

1. They're faster.

There are others, but they're not as important.

______________________________________________
-Matt
Not fast enough.

dawgruff's picture
Posts
29
Member
301 days
dawgruff posted 42 weeks ago.

#1 they are not faster. A good road bike is faster than a good tri bike, unless you think Chris McCormack could beat Lance Armstrong. Don't see many tri or cyclocross bikes in any bike races. Again, NOT saying tri specific bikes are not incredible pieces of machinery - but unless you have lots of $ and/or are VERY good and do tris all the time - they aren't neccessary.

Joe_H's picture
Posts
208
Member
2320 days
Joe_H posted 42 weeks ago.

what's the difference between a time trial bike and tri bike?

dawgruff's picture
Posts
29
Member
301 days
dawgruff posted 42 weeks ago.

besides weight/girth/functionality/construction/handle bars/pedals, etc?

Just Kidding. For me (a big guy), it is the riding position, EXPENSIVE cost, and potential for theft. For 95% of the population they probably couldn't tell you.

UFTriGator's picture
Posts
1125
Member
897 days
UFTriGator posted 42 weeks ago.

Why do you think Lance Armstrong (and every other person in the pro peloton) rides a TT bike for TTs? It's because road bike are NOT faster than Tri bikes or TT bikes. They handle better and are more easily built lighter for quicker acceleration and climbing, while Tri/TT bikes are built for going fast in a straight line (like we do in triathlons).

Cyclocross bikes are for riding on dirt, which is why you don't see them in road races. Tri and TT bikes are illegal for road races because aerobars aren't safe when riding in a group.

Tri bikes are not significantly more expensive than comparably equipped road bikes.
Examples:
Specialized Transition Pro $5,000
Specialized Tarmac Pro $4,600
--Tri bike is 8.7% more expensive (not a huge premium)

Scott Plasma LTD $7600
Scott Addict R1 $8500
--Road bike is 11.8% more
(I could've put the Addict LTD, but that's $12k and I don't feel they are equally equipped)

______________________________________________
-Matt
Not fast enough.

UFTriGator's picture
Posts
1125
Member
897 days
UFTriGator posted 42 weeks ago.

Joe_H;85040 wrote:
what's the difference between a time trial bike and tri bike?

Seat angle. TT bikes are usually about 74 degrees (similar to road bikes), while tri bikes are 76-78 degrees (sometimes steeper). This allows you to use different muscles and feel fresher for the run.

______________________________________________
-Matt
Not fast enough.

UFTriGator's picture
Posts
1125
Member
897 days
UFTriGator posted 42 weeks ago.

dawgruff;85041 wrote:
besides weight/girth/functionality/construction/handle bars/pedals, etc?

Just Kidding. For me (a big guy), it is the riding position, EXPENSIVE cost, and potential for theft. For 95% of the population they probably couldn't tell you.


Sources? One for each made up statistic will suffice.

______________________________________________
-Matt
Not fast enough.

Joe_H's picture
Posts
208
Member
2320 days
Joe_H posted 42 weeks ago.

UFTriGator;85044 wrote:
Seat angle. TT bikes are usually about 74 degrees (similar to road bikes), while tri bikes are 76-78 degrees (sometimes steeper). This allows you to use different muscles and feel fresher for the run.

that's what I thought. is the jury still out on the steeper angle or is that just a personal preference (works for some and not others?)

UFTriGator's picture
Posts
1125
Member
897 days
UFTriGator posted 42 weeks ago.

Joe_H;85047 wrote:
that's what I thought. is the jury still out on the steeper angle or is that just a personal preference (works for some and not others?)

It's different for every person. I'd say the vast majority of people will be faster with a steeper seat angle (more power, easier to run afterwards), but it'll usually take some getting used to when switching from a slacker angle just because you need to train the muscles to ride differently. I know that for me, it's definitely faster at the steeper angle. Even when I'm doing road races, I push my seat as far forward as it'll go and when I'm in breakaways, I'll sit way up on the tip of the nose (little uncomfortable for the nether-regions, but it's faster). Comfort isn't an issue on the tri bike, though, since I use a tri saddle (more padding on the nose) and can have the seat set farther forward because of the geometry (no need to be quite as extreme in the saddle/grundle interface :D)

______________________________________________
-Matt
Not fast enough.

dawgruff's picture
Posts
29
Member
301 days
dawgruff posted 42 weeks ago.

gator aerobars are endorsements/additions and not standared on evey tri bike. why would they be illegal? you are right however. i put time trial/road in same category and i shouldn't. i'd take either over a tri bike unless i won the lottery

UFTriGator's picture
Posts
1125
Member
897 days
UFTriGator posted 42 weeks ago.

dawgruff;85053 wrote:
gator aerobars are endorsements/additions and not standared on evey tri bike. why would they be illegal? you are right however. i put time trial/road in same category and i shouldn't. i'd take either over a tri bike unless i won the lottery

Are you just trolling or are you really this obnoxious?

My school pays me for my brain, not my legs. I bought all my own bikes. Go to hell. Personal attacks are pretty rare on this forum....you're not having a good first day.

In case you aren't pretending to be an idiot, the bikes are illegal because they don't handle as well when people are steering with their elbows (perfectly okay in TT format because there's no such thing as wheel-overlap). Also, aerobars can cause some serious damage if they hit someone in a crash (think Pamplona-style goring). This is why ITU requires bridges on the aerobars for draft-legal races.

______________________________________________
-Matt
Not fast enough.

dawgruff's picture
Posts
29
Member
301 days
dawgruff posted 42 weeks ago.

""Are you just trolling or are you really this obnoxious?
My school pays me for my brain, not my legs. I bought all my own bikes. Go to hell. Personal attacks are pretty rare on this forum....you're not having a good first day.""

My question was legitimate. There was no personal attack involved. But since you started - you are a rude, pompous, and in advising newbies that they must have a tri bike - just flat out wrong.

UFTriGator's picture
Posts
1125
Member
897 days
UFTriGator posted 42 weeks ago.

dawgruff;85060 wrote:
My question was legitimate. There was no personal attack involved.

This is a personal attack on me and my school, which makes me not like you at all:
dawgruff;85060 wrote:
gator aerobars are endorsements/additions and not standared on evey tri bike.

I took this to mean that my school hands me stuff on a silver platter. For your information, I work very hard both in training and to pay for nice bikes.

dawgruff;85060 wrote:
But since you started - you are a rude, pompous, and in advising newbies that they must have a tri bike - just flat out wrong.
Your poor grammar only only reinforces your poor reading comprehension. I didn't advise anyone to do anything. I just don't want made-up statistics and ridiculous opinions based on nothing (tri bikes are more likely to get stolen?!) to be the only viewpoint for someone to read. Oh, and I already know that I'm arrogant.....I'm good-looking, too. :D

______________________________________________
-Matt
Not fast enough.

dawgruff's picture
Posts
29
Member
301 days
dawgruff posted 42 weeks ago.

""This is a personal attack on me and my school, which makes me not like you at all""

I have no idea where you go to school. I'm 34 years old. I haven't been in school for 11 years. I didn't attack anyone. Why would a school give you a bike? What does school have to do with aerobars? Are you a little kid or something? And every bike reported stolen in the metro Atlanta area seems to be a $5,000 tri bike. Police blotter/craigs list, etc. all list them. Maybe they are the only ones reported because they are expensive but somebody's stealing them.

dawgruff's picture
Posts
29
Member
301 days
dawgruff posted 42 weeks ago.

AHHHH. You are a college studnet at Florida. I get it. Congrats on your good times. I only wish I'd gotten into swimming at a younger age. Again, however, I never insulted you or your school.

theShiba's picture
Posts
727
Member
448 days
theShiba posted 42 weeks ago.

dawgruff;85026 wrote:
I do duathlons (hate swimming)

Don't get me wrong, tri bikes are fine pieces of equipment, but if you are going to do 2 or 3 tri races a year they are pointless.

dawgruff;84988 wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SPECIALIZED-2008-TIME-TRIAL-MACHINE_W0QQitemZ220169112705QQihZ012QQcategoryZ64681QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bike alone is worth about $8,000. You get swag, a helmet, the bike and to train with him for a day. And it is for charity.

So, if Tri-Bikes are so pointless, why are you helping to hock them to people who are obviously going to be wasting their money?

dawgruff;85067 wrote:
I only wish I'd gotten into swimming at a younger age.

I thought you hated swimming?

Here's the thing. I'm not trying to keep the flame war going. I'm not making a personal attack. Trifuel is a community of members that put a lot of time and thought into their contributions. Most people on here are taking time during their lunch breaks, time off, etc to make thoughtful contributions here. Why? They want to help other triathletes, and build the triathlon community.

We do not take kindly to people who simply want to have a contradictory point of view to everything that is said here, as it does not BUILD the community. Look, you're new here. I was new here at one time too. Take some time, and read threads... get a feel for the way we do things around here. Then, start posting again when you think that you have something to contribute to our community.

If you have something positive to give to us, then welcome to Trifuel. If you are just going to make flames and erroneous posts like "Road Bikes are faster than TT Bikes..." then please leave us alone.

brittda's picture
Posts
1488
Member
1318 days
brittda posted 42 weeks ago.

I am confused--The question was really originally directed toward which bike would be "better" or a more " beneficial" ride. The question had nothing to do with theft rates. When who the heck leaves their bike sitting around for someone to steal anyway? Lock it in the car, house etc. , leave it sitting out when you run to Starbucks for a cup of coffee. For that I have a commuter/training bike.

Clearly there are various reasons to consider a road bike vs a tri bike. Everyone has different opinions.

Lets all play nice :) and remember that what is TYPED in a post is not necessairly the "tone" of what is written.

dawgruff's picture
Posts
29
Member
301 days
dawgruff posted 42 weeks ago.

Okay, Okay.

I hate swimming because I am not fast. I don't ACTUALLY even hate it. It's just like saying I hate MATH or something I wasn't good at in high school. Sort of being funny. I like Duathlons better than Tris even though they aren't as challenging, and probably BECAUSE they aren't as challenging.

Chris McCormack is a great athlete. Maybe one of the top 5 best athletes on the planet. I thought an online TRI community would enjoy seeing the auction. That is all.

Maybe I didn't read the origins correctly but I thought the discussion was on whether a Road Bike would be okay for a Triathlon. My answer is still "Yes, it would be fine and unless you are elite or you do a ton of tris you don't need a tri bike." This Gator guys shows his 10 mile Bike Time from a recent triathlon as 25.44. my best 12.1 mile Bike Time in a Duathlon was in 2006 and was 31:18. It was fast for me (I usually come in 32 - 35 minutes depending on terrain) but not fast as someone as ELITE as Gator. That being said, if Gator gave me his bike and I gave him mine he'd still have probably the same Bike Time and i wouldn't get any faster. Again, just my opinion. Use the tennis comparison. A beginner tennis player doesn't need to spend $300 on a racket.

I've just seen lots of solid/elite tri people tell newbies that a tri bike is a MUST. Fact is in many local GA tris and Duathlons we see mountain bikes, old 10 speeds, and everything in between. Lots of beginners think that by spending $5,000 on a tri bike they will turn their 48 minute 12 mile time in a 24 minute 12 mile time and that is not remotely true.

I apologize to anyone and look forward to posting here more often. Great site.

Triphile's picture
Posts
46
Member
305 days
Triphile posted 42 weeks ago.

If you want to go faster, lose weight...and then get on a tri bike.

For the sake of uniformity, I've registered a new username. Sorry for any confusion. Follow my progress towards finishing Ironman Cd'A 2008 at http://www.triphile.com. Thanks!

brittda's picture
Posts
1488
Member
1318 days
brittda posted 42 weeks ago.

Triphile;85080 wrote:
If you want to go faster, lose weight...and then get on a tri bike.

ahahhahahahah
ahahahahahah

sad but true :( I need to do THAT

mdd's picture
Posts
359
Member
747 days
mdd posted 42 weeks ago.

dawgruff;85079 wrote:

Maybe I didn't read the origins correctly but I thought the discussion was on whether a Road Bike would be okay for a Triathlon. My answer is still "Yes, it would be fine and unless you are elite or you do a ton of tris you don't need a tri bike." This Gator guys shows his 10 mile Bike Time from a recent triathlon as 25.44. my best 12.1 mile Bike Time in a Duathlon was in 2006 and was 31:18. It was fast for me (I usually come in 32 - 35 minutes depending on terrain) but not fast as someone as ELITE as Gator. That being said, if Gator gave me his bike and I gave him mine he'd still have probably the same Bike Time and i wouldn't get any faster. Again, just my opinion. Use the tennis comparison. A beginner tennis player doesn't need to spend $300 on a racket.

I've just seen lots of solid/elite tri people tell newbies that a tri bike is a MUST. Fact is in many local GA tris and Duathlons we see mountain bikes, old 10 speeds, and everything in between. Lots of beginners think that by spending $5,000 on a tri bike they will turn their 48 minute 12 mile time in a 24 minute 12 mile time and that is not remotely true.

Very well said!

dawgruff's picture
Posts
29
Member
301 days
dawgruff posted 42 weeks ago.

I'm 6' and 198lbs. I don't think I can lose more than 5 or 10 lbs if I wanted to.

theShiba's picture
Posts
727
Member
448 days
theShiba posted 42 weeks ago.

dawgruff;85079 wrote:
Okay, Okay.

I hate swimming because I am not fast. I don't ACTUALLY even hate it. It's just like saying I hate MATH or something I wasn't good at in high school. Sort of being funny. I like Duathlons better than Tris even though they aren't as challenging, and probably BECAUSE they aren't as challenging.

Chris McCormack is a great athlete. Maybe one of the top 5 best athletes on the planet. I thought an online TRI community would enjoy seeing the auction. That is all.

Maybe I didn't read the origins correctly but I thought the discussion was on whether a Road Bike would be okay for a Triathlon. My answer is still "Yes, it would be fine and unless you are elite or you do a ton of tris you don't need a tri bike." This Gator guys shows his 10 mile Bike Time from a recent triathlon as 25.44. my best 12.1 mile Bike Time in a Duathlon was in 2006 and was 31:18. It was fast for me (I usually come in 32 - 35 minutes depending on terrain) but not fast as someone as ELITE as Gator. That being said, if Gator gave me his bike and I gave him mine he'd still have probably the same Bike Time and i wouldn't get any faster. Again, just my opinion. Use the tennis comparison. A beginner tennis player doesn't need to spend $300 on a racket.

I've just seen lots of solid/elite tri people tell newbies that a tri bike is a MUST. Fact is in many local GA tris and Duathlons we see mountain bikes, old 10 speeds, and everything in between. Lots of beginners think that by spending $5,000 on a tri bike they will turn their 48 minute 12 mile time in a 24 minute 12 mile time and that is not remotely true.

I apologize to anyone and look forward to posting here more often. Great site.

Well said. I think that we were all just a bit frustrated by the tone of your OP. I agree that a TT bike for a beginner isn't going to make them the next Faris or anything...

I think that the reason most people recommend a TT bike for everyone is that at some point, most people have that... "ok, it's time to switch to a tri-bike" moment... so, I think the mentality is, why not just get one from the outset and be done with it. Nobody's saying go out and get a top of the line Orbea... but an entry level tri-bike would be a great choice.

blavelle's picture
Posts
71
Member
353 days
blavelle posted 42 weeks ago.

I think its hillarious people spending thousands to make their bike maybe a half a pound lighter (p2c vs. p3c?) when they could easily get on the bike they already have and drop 10 pounds.

dawgruff;85087 wrote:
I'm 6' and 198lbs. I don't think I can lose more than 5 or 10 lbs if I wanted to.

why is that? I'm 6'4" and weigh about 190 and I'm trying to loose some extra body weight.

"now I only have good days and great days."